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  • 04-30-2015, 09:13 AM
    mrspotter01
    Getting Fired for Wanting to Do a Good Job
    My question involves labor and employment law for the state of: Oregon

    My husband has been working for a HVAC company for about 8 months now. It started out great, but then slowly realized the way the owner was running the business was harming the reputation of the company and there were a lot of unsatisfied customers out there. So my husband decided to try to reverse the opinion of the general public by doing a really good job. This entailed spending a bit more time out on the jobsite than originally quoted, but the units were fixed, cleaned and purring like kittens by the time he left, and the customers were very happy. This was upsetting to the owner because my husband was taking “too long” on jobs. Over the months, they have had several conversations about this, some conversations were louder than others. My husband was just trying to tell them, if we do this stuff wrong, we are going to close our doors, if we do it right, we keep the doors open. The boss saw this as a threat, and finally fired him today for “not agreeing with each other.”

    With this being the reason stated as the cause for termination, would he still be eligible for UI in the state of Oregon?
  • 04-30-2015, 10:00 AM
    flyingron
    Re: Getting Fired for Wanting to Do a Good Job
    He won't know unless he applies, which he should do so immediately (unless he's already found work).
    The reason given is pretty weak, in my opinion. If they said he specifically disobeyed instructions, that would be another story.

    If denied, he should follow up with an appeal.
  • 04-30-2015, 10:13 AM
    cbg
    Re: Getting Fired for Wanting to Do a Good Job
    That's for the state of Oregon to decide. My best guess would be yes, but the state of Oregon has the only vote that counts.

    HE SHOULD ALWAYS APPLY, NO MATTER WHAT. I don't know why so many people think they shouldn't bother applying unless they get carved-in-stone confirmation that they're going to be eligible. The worst the state can say is no, and in that case you're no worse off than if you never applied in the first place.
  • 04-30-2015, 10:28 AM
    adjusterjack
    Re: Getting Fired for Wanting to Do a Good Job
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    fired him today

    Then TODAY is the day he files for unemployment compensation. Period.
  • 04-30-2015, 11:19 AM
    Disagreeable
    Re: Getting Fired for Wanting to Do a Good Job
    How an HVAC tech can be without work very long is surprising to me. It appears he was let go for being insubordinate and not following instructions regarding his decision to offer free additional servicing.
  • 04-30-2015, 11:24 AM
    llworking
    Re: Getting Fired for Wanting to Do a Good Job
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    How an HVAC tech can be without work very long is surprising to me. It appears he was let go for being insubordinate and not following instructions regarding his decision to offer free additional servicing.

    Where do you get that? A furnace tune up is a furnace tune up. The difference is sloppy work vs thorough work.
  • 04-30-2015, 02:24 PM
    eerelations
    Re: Getting Fired for Wanting to Do a Good Job
    He was ordered to do sloppy work and refused. Some could see this as insubordination.
  • 04-30-2015, 03:23 PM
    Disagreeable
    Re: Getting Fired for Wanting to Do a Good Job
    OP seems to have clearly stated he was paid to fix the furnace so it worked, not fix, clean and make them purr like kittens by the time he left. This would involve not only fixing the problem but additional work disassembling the intake and output vents to make sure they were not in anyway obstructed throughout, cleaning and/or replacing or suggesting the filter be changed, entering the fan chamber to lubricate the fan motor and if an ac combo unit, checking the ac charge level and verify the coolant unit inside the duct had no corrosion check that the furnace burn chamber had no severe rust that would indicate failure or fire sometime down the road and check the igniter and firing of the gas for proper operation. Do you even have a clue how much longer doing all this would take and cost employer to pay him to do for free?


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    Where do you get that? A furnace tune up is a furnace tune up. The difference is sloppy work vs thorough work.

  • 04-30-2015, 04:30 PM
    adjusterjack
    Re: Getting Fired for Wanting to Do a Good Job
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    He was ordered to do sloppy work and refused. Some could see this as insubordination.

    Baloney. Nobody (and not the unemployment office) would see that as insubordination.
  • 04-30-2015, 05:45 PM
    eerelations
    Re: Getting Fired for Wanting to Do a Good Job
    Ummm, I never said that the UI people would see this as insubordinate, nor did I say that I see it as insubordinate. Where did you get that I said either/both of these things?

    I was simply commenting on Disagreeable's and llworking's back and forth about whether or not OP's husband had been insubordinate.
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