ExpertLaw.com Forums

Is Having a Bird Feeder Forbidden as Feeding Stray Pets or Animals

Printable View

Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst Previous 1 2
  • 03-07-2015, 07:21 AM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Define Stray Pets/Animala
    When you declare that a tenant can feed wild animals without violating the lease provision that would mean all wild animals, not just birds.

    What "intepretation in the law" are you looking at that makes the language unclear?
  • 03-07-2015, 07:41 AM
    budwad
    Re: Define Stray Pets/Animala
    Whenever a court looks at the language of a statute or contract or lease, they look at it in the plain language. So if you want to look at "stray pets and animals" you see that you cannot feed animals or perhaps stray animals. That is pretty clear but it would be ridiculous that a lease would state that you cannot feed animals. So you must interpret that to mean stray animals. We are animals, our pets are animals.

    And if you want a technical interpretation of the law as to who owns or has a possessory interest in the animals (the birds) that are Ferae Naturae , it is the landlord who owns the property. I can't see any argument that says that wild birds are stray pets.
  • 03-07-2015, 08:03 AM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Define Stray Pets/Animala
    No, that is not correct. It is perfectly reasonable to conclude that such a clause prohibits feeding any stray pets or wild animals. To the extent that the lease permits tenants to have pets, the language can be easily harmonized -- you can't feed somebody else's pets or wild animals, but you can feed your own (non-straying) pets. What would be absurd is to pretend that "animals" does not include "wild animals", or to pretend that "animals" includes only some categories of animals but not others based on... what would it be... wishful thinking?

    If your best defense of your position is that wild birds are not stray pets, quite obviously nobody here has ever disagreed. However, they are wild animals, just like the pack of wolves you contend could not be fed under the governing lease term.

    If you are advising the tenant to go to court and argue that the birds aren't wild animals because any time they perch on the landlord's real estate they become the landlord's property, well... it will make a great "You wouldn't believe what this guy argued in court today..." war story for the judge and any lawyers who are present. And guess what -- your argument would also apply to a pack of wolves.
  • 03-07-2015, 08:15 AM
    budwad
    Re: Define Stray Pets/Animala
    I made my argument and I acknowledge that your knowledge is beyond mine. So I leave you with the last word.:friendly_wink:
  • 03-07-2015, 07:06 PM
    Disagreeable
    Re: Define Stray Pets/Animala
    Please don't encourage the crazy bird lady into thinking she is right. She can go to the park and feed birds.
  • 03-07-2015, 09:45 PM
    adjusterjack
    Re: Define Stray Pets/Animala
    I think the OP is a troll who incited an argument between two of our regulars and is likely sitting on the sideline laughing.
  • 03-07-2015, 10:04 PM
    L-1
    Re: Define Stray Pets/Animala
    Quote:

    Quoting adjusterjack
    View Post
    I think the OP is a troll who incited an argument between two of our regulars and is likely sitting on the sideline laughing.

    When is a bird not a bird? (Sorry, just can't help myself.)

    http://www.law.indiana.edu/instructi...on/Ojibway.pdf
  • 03-08-2015, 07:01 AM
    budwad
    Re: Define Stray Pets/Animala
    Quote:

    Quoting L-1
    View Post
    When is a bird not a bird? (Sorry, just can't help myself.)

    http://www.law.indiana.edu/instructi...on/Ojibway.pdf

    That pretty much sums up the legal system sometimes. Maybe OP can cite the case in her court answer.

    I guess I missed the mark on trying to be somewhat absurd. Didn't you see the :friendly_wink: in my initial post?
  • 03-08-2015, 12:24 PM
    L-1
    Re: Define Stray Pets/Animala
    Quote:

    Quoting budwad
    View Post
    That pretty much sums up the legal system sometimes. Maybe OP can cite the case in her court answer.

    I guess I missed the mark on trying to be somewhat absurd. Didn't you see the :friendly_wink: in my initial post?

    I didn't miss it. I think the whole thread is funny.
Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst Previous 1 2
All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:11 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.4
Copyright © 2023 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.
Copyright © 2004 - 2018 ExpertLaw.com, All Rights Reserved