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  • 03-06-2015, 03:34 PM
    Lori Cantu
    Is Having a Bird Feeder Forbidden as Feeding Stray Pets or Animals
    My question involves small claims court in the state of: Washington. we are trying to define "straying pets or animals". Our ex- landlord is now saying that our bird feeder for gold finch, junkos, chickadees & various small birds was breaking our contract by stating that we were feeding "stray pets or animals". We need to define exactly what that means, and do wild birds fall into this category.
  • 03-06-2015, 06:36 PM
    adjusterjack
    Re: Define Stray Pets/Animala
    "Pet" is defined as:

    "a domestic or tamed animal or bird kept for companionship or pleasure and treated with care and affection."

    A "stray pet" obviously is just the opposite.

    "Animal" is defined as:

    "a living organism that feeds on organic matter, typically having specialized sense organs and nervous system and able to respond rapidly to stimuli."

    That certainly includes birds.

    So it would appear that you did, indeed, feed "straying pets or animals" in violation of your lease.

    Perhaps you'll be kind enough to explain why this matter involves small claims court. Who sued who for what, and why? Back story is important if you want some helpful comments.
  • 03-06-2015, 07:38 PM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Define Stray Pets/Animala
    I would see the term "straying" as modifying "pets" -- as in, you can't feed domestic animals that aren't yours; but the prohibition also extends to animals, and birds are animals.
  • 03-07-2015, 03:51 AM
    budwad
    Re: Define Stray Pets/Animala
    I would like to know if the lease allows pets because if it does then you wouldn't be able to feed them because they are animals but not strays.

    "stray pets or animals" I think the conjunction or makes the adjective stray also apply to animals. You can't feed stray pets or stray animals.

    Stray defined as:
    Quote:

    having no home or having wandered away from home
    Now if you buy that, then birds and perhaps squirrels are Ferae Naturae and are not stray pets or stray animals.:friendly_wink:

    The plain language would also preclude our feeding ourselves. We too are animals.
  • 03-07-2015, 05:09 AM
    Catmad
    Re: Define Stray Pets/Animala
    I would probably call my local Animal Control and ask if they consider wild birds to be stray, estray, or straying animals. I imagine they will say no. I can't find anything that categorizes wild birds as stray/estray. Dogs, cats, horses, cattle, mules, goats, jackasses and those animals considered to be "livestock", yes. Wild birds? No. I'll be interested to see how this plays out...
  • 03-07-2015, 05:51 AM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Define Stray Pets/Animala
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    Quoting Catmad
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    I would probably call my local Animal Control and ask if they consider wild birds to be stray, estray, or straying animals. I imagine they will say no. I can't find anything that categorizes wild birds as stray/estray. Dogs, cats, horses, cattle, mules, goats, jackasses and those animals considered to be "livestock", yes. Wild birds? No. I'll be interested to see how this plays out...

    We're talking about a plain English word. The place you look for a definition of "straying" or "animal" is a dictionary.
  • 03-07-2015, 05:56 AM
    adjusterjack
    Re: Define Stray Pets/Animala
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    Quoting Catmad
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    I would probably call my local Animal Control and ask if they consider wild birds to be stray, estray, or straying animals. I imagine they will say no. I can't find anything that categorizes wild birds as stray/estray. Dogs, cats, horses, cattle, mules, goats, jackasses and those animals considered to be "livestock", yes. Wild birds? No. I'll be interested to see how this plays out...

    Who "considers" what is irrelevant.

    I posted dictionary definitions that carry more weight than what anybody "considers."
  • 03-07-2015, 06:39 AM
    flyingron
    Re: Define Stray Pets/Animala
    The point of discussion is whether stray modifies just pets or "pets or animals" together. If it only modifies pets, the whole clause is apparently redundant because saying you can't feed animals includes stray pets. If stray modifies the entire pets or animals conjunction, then one could argue wild animals are not STRAY. Stray refers to those who have wandered from their place. Wild birds outside are in their place not stray.
  • 03-07-2015, 06:52 AM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Define Stray Pets/Animala
    I think the argument that feeding wild animals would be permitted -- that the landlord doesn't want you to attract other people's pets or livestock to the property, but would be fine with your putting out red meat to feed a pack of local wolves -- is inconsistent with both the plain intention and clear language of the clause.
  • 03-07-2015, 07:05 AM
    budwad
    Re: Define Stray Pets/Animala
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    Quoting Mr. Knowitall
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    I think the argument that feeding wild animals would be permitted -- that the landlord doesn't want you to attract other people's pets or livestock to the property, but would be fine with your putting out red meat to feed a pack of local wolves -- is inconsistent with both the plain intention and clear language of the clause.

    That is a little over the top. We are speaking of wild song birds not a pack of wolves. And the plain intention of the plain language is not clear. Not according to the interpretation in the law.
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