Reporting a Threat

My question involves civil rights in the State of: ..this is..? Sorry I'm not as educated as other people apparently. I felt this goes in civil rights however. Because I'm a civilian and I have rights. Fair enough.

I've started studying a while back. Not even a month yet, I play better around quiet people, so the first day I don't remember how exactly I went out to eat with a girl. Midway eating, she told me she had a partner and complained to me how manipulative he is. I felt compelled to tell her that she should be careful because he's the "jumpy" type. I told her that he was trouble. I shouldn't have said anything, looking back now, but sure enough I was right.

I was talking to the teacher when there came the nutcase and threatened me while addressing the teacher, telling me, and him, that he was "set" and they knew where he was during the morning(I wait the buss for college), made gun noises, blah blah. Horrible. Like him.

This kid could be full of sh!t, pardon my French. But he's the crazy type, I can't sit around and do nothing. Any advice?

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Quoting VisualRebirth

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I'm a civilian and I have rights. Fair enough.

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Amusing but this has nothing to do with civil rights.

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Quoting VisualRebirth

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I was talking to the teacher when there came the nutcase and threatened me while addressing the teacher, telling me, and him, that he was "set" and they knew where he was during the morning(I wait the buss for college), made gun noises, blah blah. Horrible. Like him.

This kid could be full of sh!t, pardon my French. But he's the crazy type, I can't sit around and do nothing. Any advice?

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You were threatened with harm. You have the option to report the incident to the police to get it on record. Make sure you get the officer's name and a case number to refer to.

Then you have the option of taking out a restraining order (also known as an order of protection). If he bothers you after that you can report the violation of the restraining order and have him arrested.

Is English your first language? This is a bit hard to follow.

You COULD call the police, but I didn't really see a specific threat there, and him running around making generic gun noises like "bang bang" probably isn't going to be enough for anyone to charge him with anything.

Totality of circumstances is everything. Say someone is on trial for murder and you are a juror. The defendant's brother approaches you and simply says "bang bang" and walks away. Give the totality of those circumstances, it's very likely that the brother would be charged with intimidation of a juror. In your case, I'm not really seeing enough "totality" to prove that he was threatening you.

At any rate, call the police if it makes you feel safer. If this is at a university or other type of school the police may have more latitude to intervene on administrative rather than law enforcement grounds.

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Quoting adjusterjack

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Then you have the option of taking out a restraining order (also known as an order of protection). If he bothers you after that you can report the violation of the restraining order and have him arrested.

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Assuming he isn't dead before he can report the RO violation. No, I'm not being a smart-ass. Restraining orders are just as useless as a sign that says "gun free zone". If anyone thinks a piece of paper will prevent physical harm, you are delusional. OP, you need to make your own decision. Were you truly threatened, or was this guy blowing smoke? It sounds as if you took his girl out to eat, and he's pissed off. Did you know the girl was involved with this guy? Was it an honest mistake? Either way, you know based on your experience if this guy is truly a threat to you, or if he was just expressing his dissatisfaction over the fact you were hanging with his girl. If you truly feel he threatened you, and you fear for your life or limbs, your best course of action is to contact the police.

Hey PADriver13, to be honest, I'm concerned for the people around me because I'm sure of my skills. That, and the fact that if I see his face, he probably won't be seen, and if he covers it, it will be a pain with the police. Now remember, this is preventive thinking. As I should be nowhere near this situation. But I just can't trust irrational people. They're scary. And crazy. And unskilled.. Hahah. In any case I realized that I needed to take a decision. It can't be helped, I have to wait till I am in real danger to actually do something. If I keep my eyes peeled I should be fine.

I have it all planned, you see. If he does something I will make sure to make him receive the maximum weight of the law by playing traumatized, after that I will transfer my studies elsewhere. As simple as one two.

What exactly are you babbling about?

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Quoting PADriver13

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Assuming he isn't dead before he can report the RO violation. No, I'm not being a smart-ass. Restraining orders are just as useless as a sign that says "gun free zone". If anyone thinks a piece of paper will prevent physical harm, you are delusional.

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You're absolutely right. You know it and I know it (I'm also 2A and carry daily) but often when I suggest firearm ownership somebody comes along with the "Oh, that's not the answer" routine.

So, this time I thought I take the low road.

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Nah...c'mon back up here on the packing road with me Jack.

Having a restraining order is better than NOT having one. Why? Because that can make the difference between intervening before the events get to the point where deadly force is necessary.

Without a restraining order, driving by your house, calling you, standing on the sidewalk staring at the door, and all manner of creepy thing can be perfectly legal. WITH an R/O those issues can be criminal and result in an arrest.

Not getting a restraining order can also put into question one's level of fear or concern if they later allege a pattern of conduct that caused them concern for their safety and still refused to get such an order. I know that out here, many DAs will not often pursue stalking or even harassment by electronic communications until they also violate a TRO as it strengthens those cases.

Having an order DOES help. And, I'd rather intervene before ANYONE has to die.

In THIS case, however, the OP has not been clear enough for me to determine if he even has grounds to file for a R/O ... I'm not sure that he has the requisite fear required to obtain one. He seems full of cocky, but lacking true concern for his own safety. And he can't file for someone else.

I'm here to challenge that...;)

This guy hits on a girl, takes her out to dinner and when the boyfriend wants to kick his ass, your answer is put a 40 in the boyfriends chest? Wow!

I'm 100% pro gun, but it's thinking like this that is making the government want to take our guns away and gives more ammo for anti gun people to use against us.

If the OP is that concerned, let him file a police report and have a TRO placed on the boyfriend. The boyfriend will be notified about the TRO. If then the boyfriend violates the TRO, then and only then can the OP put a well placed shot in the mans chest.