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  • 02-04-2015, 02:22 PM
    13103806
    Collision at a Rotary Intersection
    My question involves a traffic accident in the State of: Massachusetts.

    Was involved in a traffic collision this morning.
    Personally am uninsured. First week of receiving this car (still registered in Delaware) Just received this car from my father.

    http://i.imgur.com/VbjSKdW.png

    Was driving along red route and came to a stop sign at the Wellesley Ave. Stopped at stop sign for 5 seconds.

    View to my right was blocked by piled up snow, so I preceded to accelerate. As soon as begin to drive past the intersection, collided with a car that was along the blue route on Wellesley Ave. Right End of my bumper collided with left end of her car.


    My car was significantly more damaged. Lady I collided was an older lady senior citizen.

    http://i.imgur.com/d9u5p4Z.jpg

    Am yet to file motor vehicle operator crash report.

    As an uninsured driver, I understand that I will have to pay for my own costs for fixing the car. My worry is that if I am responsible, will I have to pay fix her car and pay for medical bills. Older lady was not hurt or broke any bones but was "claiming" she was hurt.
  • 02-04-2015, 02:38 PM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Collision at a Rotary Intersection
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    Was driving along red route and came to a stop sign at the Wellesley Ave. Stopped at stop sign for 5 seconds.

    Looking at the street view, I don't see a stop sign on Great Plain Ave. Are you stating that the intersection of Wellesley and Great Plain now has a stop sign for traffic proceeding NW on Great Plain in addition to the stop sign present for cars approaching the intersection from Wellesley?
  • 02-04-2015, 03:04 PM
    13103806
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    Looking at the street view, I don't see a stop sign on Great Plain Ave. Are you stating that the intersection of Wellesley and Great Plain now has a stop sign for traffic proceeding NW on Great Plain in addition to the stop sign present for cars approaching the intersection from Wellesley?

    On my route, yes there was a stop sign. I was located where the white car is in the picture



    http://i.imgur.com/TSYB5wA.png
  • 02-04-2015, 03:28 PM
    llworking
    Re: Collision at a Rotary Intersection
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    On my route, yes there was a stop sign. I was located where the white car is in the picture



    http://i.imgur.com/TSYB5wA.png

    Can you please say who had a stop sign and who didn't? Its not very clear from this picture. I know you said that you had a stop sign, but did the other person have one as well?
  • 02-04-2015, 03:33 PM
    13103806
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    Can you please say who had a stop sign and who didn't? Its not very clear from this picture. I know you said that you had a stop sign, but did the other person have one as well?

    the other person did not have a stop sign.
  • 02-04-2015, 04:14 PM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Collision at a Rotary Intersection
    You need to make up your mind where the collision occurred, as it obviously did not occur in two locations. It either occurred at the intersection where you had the stop sign, or it occurred at the subsequent intersection where the other driver had a stop sign.
  • 02-04-2015, 04:18 PM
    jk
    Re: Collision at a Rotary Intersection
    Then it's simple; you failed to yield to a car that had right of way. You are at fault. You will owe for her repairs.
  • 02-04-2015, 04:19 PM
    13103806
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    You need to make up your mind where the collision occurred, as it obviously did not occur in two locations. It either occurred at the intersection where you had the stop sign, or it occurred at the subsequent intersection where the other driver had a stop sign.

    sorry, I had to take second look at the google earth version. The other driver did not have a stop sign.

    it occurred immediately after I drove past to the white line where my view was blocked by a snow bank.

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    Then it's simple; you failed to yield to a car that had right of way. You are at fault. You will owe for her repairs.

    even if my view was blocked my the snowbank???
  • 02-04-2015, 04:21 PM
    jk
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    sorry, I had to take second look at the google earth version. The other driver did not have a stop sign.

    it occurred immediately after I drove past to the white line where my view was blocked by a snow bank.

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    even if my view was blocked my the snowbank???

    yes. When you view is blocked you are required to slowly move forward until you can ascertain whether there is traffic or not. You don't simply accelerate into the intersection after stopping.
  • 02-04-2015, 04:27 PM
    13103806
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    yes. When you view is blocked you are required to slowly move forward until you can ascertain whether there is traffic or not. You don't simply accelerate into the intersection after stopping.

    sorry for my lack of clarification.
    The thing is I did slowly move forward in an attempt to look around the snow pile.
    Unfortunately, as soon I slowly moved forward, we collided....

    My car was significantly more damaged then her car. Not 100% sure but isn't that evident that he was driving at a faster speed then me?

    Am I still at fault?
  • 02-04-2015, 04:37 PM
    jk
    Re: Collision at a Rotary Intersection
    The amount of damage does not indicate anything.


    Your ststement;
    i accelerated

    as so as I begin to go past the intersection....


    not entered but go past the intersection.


    another huge problem is based on the damage you actually hit her. How did she ever get almost completely past you and you did not stop before hitting her? That suggests you actually did just accurate into the intersection without really checking for traffic. Otherwise as you saw the front of her car you would have been able to stop before hitting her.
  • 02-04-2015, 04:40 PM
    Disagreeable
    Re: Collision at a Rotary Intersection
    Yes, you had the entire width of the lane traveling the other direction to see her car and yield. you did not. I doubt the snow bank extended 15 feet into the road and blocked traffic going opposite the way she was traveling. Obviously if you had been moving slow you would have seen her in the 15 feet required to cross the opposing lane. You are completely at fault.
  • 02-04-2015, 04:44 PM
    13103806
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    The amount of damage does not indicate anything.


    Your ststement;
    i accelerated

    as so as I begin to go past the intersection....


    not entered but go past the intersection.


    another huge problem is based on the damage you actually hit her. How did she ever get almost completely past you and you did not stop before hitting her? That suggests you actually did just accurate into the intersection without really checking for traffic. Otherwise as you saw the front of her car you would have been able to stop before hitting her.

    sorry for my lack of clarification.
    I meant to say slowly move forward in an attempt to look around the snow pile.

    The thing is as soon as I slowly drove forward, and passed the intersection to look over the snow pile, we collided. My right bumper hit the left bumper of her car. So as soon as I her car in front of my car, we hit each other
  • 02-04-2015, 04:48 PM
    Mr. Knowitall
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    On my route, yes there was a stop sign. I was located where the white car is in the picture

    So your initial illustration is very, very wrong,
    http://i59.tinypic.com/1enkb6.jpg
  • 02-04-2015, 04:48 PM
    jk
    Re: Collision at a Rotary Intersection
    You struck the left end (rear) of her car? If so, you should not have been movng so fast you couldn't stop once you saw her.
  • 02-04-2015, 05:27 PM
    13103806
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    You struck the left end (rear) of her car? If so, you should not have been movng so fast you couldn't stop once you saw her.

    her left bumper
    My right bumper collided with her left bumper.

    Personally, the snow pile obstructing my view and narrow road due to snow pile up, limiting my ability to see and yield. I attempted to peek out into the intersection and we collided

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    So your initial illustration is very, very wrong,
    http://i59.tinypic.com/1enkb6.jpg

    I believe it is still in the original position. Considering my right bumper hit her left bumper. It would have only happened if she was heading towards my right.

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    Yes, you had the entire width of the lane traveling the other direction to see her car and yield. you did not. I doubt the snow bank extended 15 feet into the road and blocked traffic going opposite the way she was traveling. Obviously if you had been moving slow you would have seen her in the 15 feet required to cross the opposing lane. You are completely at fault.

    it was a one way road. we hit each other as soon as move forward a little bit, to get a better look of the cars crossing through the intersection. (my view to the right was blocked by the snow pile)
  • 02-04-2015, 05:45 PM
    Lehk
    Re: Collision at a Rotary Intersection
    The snow pile is irrelevant, if you could not see that the way is clear you cannot proceed. You hit someone who had right of way.
  • 02-04-2015, 05:55 PM
    Disagreeable
    Re: Collision at a Rotary Intersection
    So your claim is this massive snow pile extended out into the roadway beyond the white striped lane side marker and that she was driving on the edge of the road almost on the striped white line?
  • 02-04-2015, 06:15 PM
    13103806
    Re: Collision at a Rotary Intersection
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    The snow pile is irrelevant, if you could not see that the way is clear you cannot proceed. You hit someone who had right of way.

    I guess I learned my lesson...

    thank you for the input

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    So your claim is this massive snow pile extended out into the roadway beyond the white striped lane side marker and that she was driving on the edge of the road almost on the striped white line?

    http://i.imgur.com/yV5cx6C.png

    snow was extended 1-2 feet beyond the yellow line.
    my view of the road. Snow pile near stop sign on the right

    my view of incoming traffic was blocked by the snowpile next to stop sign on the right (snowstorm in massachusetts last 2 days).
    We collided 2-3 seconds after I slowly drove past the white stop sign line with my right bumper hitting her left bumper.

    Hypothetically, should I have proceeded from the left a little more to get a better view???
    even though it was somewhat a left turn lane???
  • 02-04-2015, 07:07 PM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Collision at a Rotary Intersection
    No, it obviously was not in the "original intersection", where you would not have been facing a stop sign. You have specifically and repeatedly indicated that the collision occurred as I illustrated, where you had a stop sign and the other driver had right-of-way. You have specifically stated that your car was in the position of the white car which was stopped at the stop sign at the exact location I indicate.

    When another car has right-of-way, while you might be able to convince an officer or prosecutor to give you a break based on a snow pile that obstructs your view, nosing into the intersection when you don't have a clear view is a failure to yield and will make you at fault for the accident.
  • 02-04-2015, 07:27 PM
    Disagreeable
    Re: Collision at a Rotary Intersection
    You should have slowly moved forward at a sharp angle, maintaining your lane, until you could be assured it was clear.
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