Pulled Over for Speeding While in a Gas Station, VC 22349(A)

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Quoting jeff1970

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Why try that? He's been banned and that's probably because he doesn't know what he's talking about.

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Your use of the word "probably" indicates that you don't know what you are talking about.

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Quoting free9man

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While he may have been incorrect at times and a general PITA at times, his advice as given above is legal. It is simply playing games with the system to try and get off. CA set their system up in a manner that such games are possible, although not necessarily effective, so people are free to play them if they wish.

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You are correct. California laws are very conducive to a person who wishes to enjoy all the benefits they offer. People who do not take advantage of the well established laws in CA may as well not be taking legal deductions on their income tax.

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Quoting jeff1970

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Why try that? He's been banned and that's probably because he doesn't know what he's talking about.

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It seems odd that you are disparaging a member who only advocates using the law for a defense to its fullest extent and at the same time, you seek similar help from members on the same site: http://www.expertlaw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=183059&p=865570#post865570

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Quoting adjusterjack

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I wish I had a buck for every time I've read that. LOL.



And the judge will believe the officer instead of one of thousands who parade through the court claiming they didn't do it.



You can try donzoh1's tactics. They seem to have a reasonable chance of working.

But even if you manage to beat the ticket you'd still need to pay more attention to your speed. Glancing at the speedometer occasionally isn't going to put you in any danger and you don't even have to look at it to know you are doing 20 miles over the limit when you are passing every other driver on the road. So give us a break with that innocence baloney.

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First off, it's a one lane road going in each direction. :) Secondly, throttles are tricky things. I can accelerate 20mph in the flick of a wrist if I wanted to. I don't know exactly where the deputy "thinks" he saw me since I wasn't even aware of him till the border patrol officer approached me at the gas station and pointed him out to me. Therefore I don't know what point in time he thinks I could have been speeding. There are times where I do have to accelerate to get out of tight situations (for example, other drivers crossing the double yellow on the opposite side). I can guarantee I wasn't driving above the speed limit for any extended period of time (and esp. at the speed that the deputy thinks I was driving) because that is a curvy road, and I literally cannot take corners at those speeds.

Yet you admit you don't even look at your speedo as it is unsafe to do so so you can not argue you were not speeding since you simply couldn't know for certain since you don't look at your speedo.

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Quoting jk

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Yet you admit you don't even look at your speedo as it is unsafe to do so so you can not argue you were not speeding since you simply couldn't know for certain since you don't look at your speedo.

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I said I don't stare at my speedometer. Unless you stare at your speedometer (or have a camera pointed at your speedometer), there is always a possibility you are speeding at any given time. If you are not looking at your exact speed, you COULD (possibly) be speeding.

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Quoting w0lf3h

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I said I don't stare at my speedometer. Unless you stare at your speedometer (or have a camera pointed at your speedometer), there is always a possibility you are speeding at any given time. If you are not looking at your exact speed, you COULD (possibly) be speeding.

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You said it is unsafe to take your eyes off the road to look at your speedo so either you admit you knowingly drive in an unsafe manner or you don't look at your speedo.

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Quoting jk

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You said it is unsafe to take your eyes off the road to look at your speedo so either you admit you knowingly drive in an unsafe manner or you don't look at your speedo.

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No, I actually implied it was unsafe to have your eyes glued to the speedometer while you drive. ;)

Unless you were looking at the officer clocking you and your speedometer at the same time, the appropriate answer is I don't know for sure. I would be guessing if I tried to reply.

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Quoting Disagreeable

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Unless you were looking at the officer clocking you and your speedometer at the same time, the appropriate answer is I don't know for sure. I would be guessing if I tried to reply.

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I agree. And that is why I said something along the lines of "I could possibly have been speeding." To my knowledge, I was not. However, I do not know when the cop attempted to pace my speed, and therefore I cannot say with certainty that I was AT or BELOW the speed limit. I can only say that I do not recall speeding.

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Quoting w0lf3h

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I agree. And that is why I said something along the lines of "I could possibly have been speeding." To my knowledge, I was not. However, I do not know when the cop attempted to pace my speed, and therefore I cannot say with certainty that I was AT or BELOW the speed limit. I can only say that I do not recall speeding.

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and since the cop does recall you speeding, care to guess what the court will decide here?

but anyway, have you figured out if the ticket was for that day or the previous day? As another poster said previously, if the day before, if you wear a helmet anyway, might provide some basis for a defense.

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Quoting jk

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and since the cop does recall you speeding, care to guess what the court will decide here?

but anyway, have you figured out if the ticket was for that day or the previous day? As another poster said previously, if the day before, if you wear a helmet anyway, might provide some basis for a defense.

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Speeding tickets are only ever about the cop's word against yours. It's playing the game of whether or not you can get the cop to admit he doesn't know or doesn't remember.

If the cop really wants to give you a ticket for the day before on the day after, you can't do anything about it. He said "I saw you here yesterday, and I couldn't catch you." I do think it'd be very cool to be able to ride the speed that he said I was going though. :P