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  • 01-02-2015, 11:25 AM
    selenaelaine
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    more along the lines of a teen studying laws. im being more of a caring adult than you two are.
  • 01-02-2015, 11:56 AM
    Disagreeable
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    Unfortunately, poverty and multiple kids is not a reason for an agency to jump in and spend $6k per month on foster care. Until we determine unchecked birth and the resulting human misery is more important than the profits of the Bilderberg Group and their lackeys it will only get worse. Google Cloward Piven Strategy and you will see the goal is to populate the globe with masses of working poor so everyone is living at a level where they are required to spend all their money to survive and the profits of the 1% are maximized.

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    but if its truly a bad environment then she will get taken out. you don't know what people go through when they're in a bad environment and i feel as if you don't really care.

  • 01-02-2015, 12:14 PM
    Mr. Knowitall
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    Unfortunately, poverty and multiple kids is not a reason for an agency to jump in and spend $6k per month on foster care.

    Where are states spending $6K per child in foster care? California averages about $29K per year per child. Ohio averages a bit under $24K per year.
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    Google Cloward Piven Strategy and you will see the goal is to populate the globe with masses of working poor so everyone is living at a level where they are required to spend all their money to survive and the profits of the 1% are maximized.

    Dredging up an irrelevant footnote of a policy proposal from 1966 as if it has significance?
  • 01-02-2015, 12:31 PM
    Disagreeable
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    I was referring to taking away the children (multiple) of a family. Perhaps you believe the massive load of social services being provided at the expense of the US taxpayer does not encourage a family with 3 children to multiply into multiple families in the same line getting social services. As the saying goes, every time a food stamp card is swiped, JP Morgan makes 15 cents. Poverty supported by taxpayer dollars is good business.
  • 01-02-2015, 12:34 PM
    cbg
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    more along the lines of a teen studying laws. im being more of a caring adult than you two are.

    Here's what you don't understand, dear.

    Yes, IF she is in a truly "bad", meaning dangerous environment, the state will remove her. That is true. They will NOT emancipate her. They will put her in the foster care system, or in a group home, or in some other state-controlled environment. MAYBE they will place her with another relative, under supervision.

    However, what you and she consider a "bad" environment does not wash with the state. Only if THEY consider that she is IN DANGER will they take her out of her home. If you understood the laws you claim to be studying, you would know this.

    EVERY teen thinks they are in a bad environment. It's the nature of the beast. So her dad isn't home due to work. My dad, a doctor, worked 14 and 18 hour days. So what? So if they miss the bus they're expected to take responsibility for their own actions. That's not, "not taking care of us", that's, "teaching you to be responsible".

    She doesn't have a job. She can't support herself. There is nothing in any of her posts to suggest that her parents are unfit by the legal definition. She isn't going anywhere. And I strongly suspect that despite your claims, you aren't either.
  • 01-02-2015, 12:48 PM
    Mr. Knowitall
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    I was referring to taking away the children (multiple) of a family. Perhaps you believe the massive load of social services being provided at the expense of the US taxpayer does not encourage a family with 3 children to multiply into multiple families in the same line getting social services. As the saying goes, every time a food stamp card is swiped, JP Morgan makes 15 cents. Poverty supported by taxpayer dollars is good business.

    The more likely answer is that you're a blowhard who has no idea what it's like to serve as a foster parent, taking care of children from troubled homes and (if you do a decent job of it) spending no small amount of your own money to do so.
  • 01-03-2015, 04:21 PM
    selenaelaine
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    Here's what you don't understand, dear.

    Yes, IF she is in a truly "bad", meaning dangerous environment, the state will remove her. That is true. They will NOT emancipate her. They will put her in the foster care system, or in a group home, or in some other state-controlled environment. MAYBE they will place her with another relative, under supervision.

    However, what you and she consider a "bad" environment does not wash with the state. Only if THEY consider that she is IN DANGER will they take her out of her home. If you understood the laws you claim to be studying, you would know this.

    EVERY teen thinks they are in a bad environment. It's the nature of the beast. So her dad isn't home due to work. My dad, a doctor, worked 14 and 18 hour days. So what? So if they miss the bus they're expected to take responsibility for their own actions. That's not, "not taking care of us", that's, "teaching you to be responsible".

    She doesn't have a job. She can't support herself. There is nothing in any of her posts to suggest that her parents are unfit by the legal definition. She isn't going anywhere. And I strongly suspect that despite your claims, you aren't either.

    you, dear, are the true definition of a heartless idiot. i never said she can get emancipated right now, i stated what she would need to get emancipated. and if shes harming herself then that is automatic removal, but not emancipation. you honestly misunderstood everything i said. clearly. like i said, im 16, two jobs, and full time student and graduating early. i know what it takes, and i know its stressful to be a grown up. but if she wants to get out as bad as i did, then she'll be doing everything she can. i was in a bad environment, i got things thrown at me, cussed at, told i was worthless and things of that nature. THAT is a bad environment. you really must not know what it means to be a mistreated child. i HOPE if you have children then they never have to feel the way mistreated children feel because you're clearly the type of person that would not care.
  • 01-03-2015, 04:32 PM
    cbg
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    No, dear, harming herself is not automatic removal. And once again, even if the state agrees that it is a bad environment, which given her description is NOT going to happen, they would not emancipate her.

    Come back when you've grown up, maybe ten years or so from now, and tell me then how giving her the truth instead of filling her head with absurdities about her being able to do things that the law will not allow her to do is heartless.

    You have noticed, haven't you, that she hasn't been back for some time? Perhaps she's a bit more mature than you are and understands that sometimes people have to tell her things she doesn't like to hear, and has accepted that she is not a candidate for emancipation.
  • 01-03-2015, 04:40 PM
    selenaelaine
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    are you illiterate? ONCE AGAIN. I NEVER SAID SHE COULD GET EMANCIPATED. I JUST SAID WHAT SHE WOULD NEED! youre stupid. and no, she might have harmed herself more because of you telling her she has no options which is not true.
  • 01-03-2015, 04:59 PM
    Dogmatique
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    are you illiterate? ONCE AGAIN. I NEVER SAID SHE COULD GET EMANCIPATED. I JUST SAID WHAT SHE WOULD NEED! youre stupid. and no, she might have harmed herself more because of you telling her she has no options which is not true.


    Watch your tone, child. You think you're mature enough to be emancipated?

    Cute.

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    you, dear, are the true definition of a heartless idiot. i never said she can get emancipated right now, i stated what she would need to get emancipated. and if shes harming herself then that is automatic removal, but not emancipation. you honestly misunderstood everything i said. clearly. like i said, im 16, two jobs, and full time student and graduating early. i know what it takes, and i know its stressful to be a grown up. but if she wants to get out as bad as i did, then she'll be doing everything she can. i was in a bad environment, i got things thrown at me, cussed at, told i was worthless and things of that nature. THAT is a bad environment. you really must not know what it means to be a mistreated child. i HOPE if you have children then they never have to feel the way mistreated children feel because you're clearly the type of person that would not care.


    Q4P.
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