ExpertLaw.com Forums

Writing Song Lyrics That Could Be Interpreted as a Threat

Printable View

Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page
Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next LastLast
  • 12-02-2014, 05:54 AM
    DylanDude
    Writing Song Lyrics That Could Be Interpreted as a Threat
    My question involves criminal law for the state of: Wisconsin

    A few months ago i started working at Texas Roadhouse, it's a restaurant if you haven't heard of it.
    Well the managers pissed me off and i wrote some rap lyrics about my frustrations, it's basically a diss song.
    I just quit the job and I want to post the finished song on youtube and then on facebook where the managers will see the song.
    There's just some lyrics im worried about, wondering if i could get in any trouble.

    Here's the lyrics i wrote
    "It's like Texas Roadhouse is the bull and I'm the matador
    I'm so mad i could stab a hor, like my manager E***
    she was starin', when i was eating some bread, yeah she was glarin', voice blarin'"

    "I probly shouldn't say this cuz i know i should behave
    but f*ck it i wouldn't mind seeing the owner D*** up in a grave"


    Could i be sued or get in trouble for a death threat with lyrics like these?
    Also can this mess up my future with career and jobs?
  • 12-02-2014, 06:12 AM
    free9man
    Re: Will I Get in Trouble for These Song Lyrics
    How about you just take the cathartic effect of having written the lyrics and then erase them? There is no need to go asking for trouble.

    The Supreme Court is actually going to hear a case very similar to this where someone was convicted of making terroristic threats for posting violent lyrics about someone where they saw it.

    If you leave it up and potential employers see it, or you are arrested for it, it could mess up your future.
  • 12-02-2014, 06:37 AM
    cbg
    Re: Will I Get in Trouble for These Song Lyrics
    Good lord, of course you can. What's wrong with you that you can even imagine that would pass unnoticed?
  • 12-02-2014, 06:51 AM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Writhing Song Lyrics That Could Be Interpreted as a Threat
    Quote:

    Quoting DylanDude
    View Post
    ]"I'm so mad i could stab a hor, like my manager E***"

    Why am I reminded of "C-I-L-L my landlord"?

    Either you're a good enough performer that this is worth watching, in which case you can get past your initial catharsis and change the names for the public version, or you're not, in which case you should consider limiting your audience to a mirror in your home.

    Anything that goes online can "mess up" your future employment prospects. With many employers, the first thing they do with any potential hire is see what comes up through Google.

    Legal trouble? If it is reported as a threat, it would likely be investigated as a threat. If there is no other suggestion than the song that you're actually intending harm, odds are it wouldn't get past the investigation stage -- but on occasion I've seen people charged with crimes for using people's real names in fictional stories, and it is surprising what can sometimes be interpreted as evidence of a larger plan to actually act on a threat, so no promises.
  • 12-02-2014, 08:57 AM
    Taxing Matters
    Re: Posting Song Lyrics That Could Be Interpreted as a Threat
    Quote:

    Quoting DylanDude
    View Post
    Could i be sued or get in trouble for a death threat with lyrics like these?
    Also can this mess up my future with career and jobs?

    Could you be sued? Certainly. Would the lawsuit be successful? Probably not, especially if the plaintiff has suffered no harm from it. But you’d still be stuck with defending the claim, which takes time and can be costly.

    Could you suffer other adverse problems from it? Again, that is certainly possible. How likely is it? Depends on a whole lot of things, including how widely the video is seen, how people react to it, etc. Note that even if you do nothing illegal in making and posting the video you can still suffer bad effects from it. How do you think future employers would react seeing a video in which you appear to be threatening your former employer? I rather think nearly all would want to avoid you like the plague. No employer wants to have employees who might be at risk of work place violence, and a video threatening your former employers would seem to suggest you have a higher risk for that. After all, expressing the desire to do it is the first step towards actually doing it. It also suggests you may be a troublesome employee because you were apparently unable to get along with your former bosses.

    Practically every day there is a news story of someone who says something on the internet that was not well thought out and they end up losing their job or having other problems as a result of it. If somehow the video went viral you could find yourself at the center of a lot of very negative reaction. That sort of thing gets people fired.

    My own view is that this sort of this is simply asking for potential trouble. Personally, I’d not do it. Do you really think your momentary satisfaction at taking this swipe at your former bosses will be worth the potential trouble that it could cause you down the line?
  • 12-02-2014, 01:31 PM
    DylanDude
    Re: Posting Song Lyrics That Could Be Interpreted as a Threat
    Okay most people seem to be saying not to do it. And i definitely don't wanna end up in any trouble.

    What if i cut out the names so that the song just has blanks where the names would be
    I'm so mad i could stab a hor, like my manager ___"

    "I probly shouldn't say this cuz i know i should behave
    but f*ck it i wouldn't mind seeing the _____ ____ up in a grave"

    The song will be on youtube with no connection to my real full name. I will post it on facebook with my real full name but i don't think there would be any proof that i was the one to make it

    This would make it much more safe right?
  • 12-02-2014, 01:36 PM
    cbg
    Re: Posting Song Lyrics That Could Be Interpreted as a Threat
    Are you really that naive?
  • 12-02-2014, 01:42 PM
    adjusterjack
    Re: Posting Song Lyrics That Could Be Interpreted as a Threat
    Quote:

    Quoting DylanDude
    View Post
    Okay most people seem to be saying not to do it. And i definitely don't wanna end up in any trouble.

    What if i cut out the names so that the song just has blanks where the names would be
    I'm so mad i could stab a hor, like my manager ___"

    "I probly shouldn't say this cuz i know i should behave
    but f*ck it i wouldn't mind seeing the _____ ____ up in a grave"

    The song will be on youtube with no connection to my real full name. I will post it on facebook with my real full name but i don't think there would be any proof that i was the one to make it

    This would make it much more safe right?

    A bit.

    But if you have to water it down so nobody recognizes you or the people you wrote about, then there's really no satisfaction from posting it.

    My advice is the same as the others. Now that you've written it, destroy it. The bottom line is that nobody really gives a s--t that you had a crummy job and crummy managers and the only thing that a public display is likely going to get you is trouble no matter how you disguise it. When I read stuff like that on the internet I figure the writer is an emotionally immature (8 year old mentality) loser and it makes me laugh.

    Do what the rest of us do with crummy jobs and crummy managers. Find another job and get over it. This won't be the last time something like this happens to you. It happens to everybody, sometimes more than once.

    "You have the right to remain silent. Now exercise the ability." (Ron White)
  • 12-03-2014, 05:39 AM
    DylanDude
    Re: Posting Song Lyrics That Could Be Interpreted as a Threat
    Quote:

    Quoting adjusterjack
    View Post
    A bit.

    But if you have to water it down so nobody recognizes you or the people you wrote about, then there's really no satisfaction from posting it.

    My advice is the same as the others. Now that you've written it, destroy it. The bottom line is that nobody really gives a s--t that you had a crummy job and crummy managers and the only thing that a public display is likely going to get you is trouble no matter how you disguise it. When I read stuff like that on the internet I figure the writer is an emotionally immature (8 year old mentality) loser and it makes me laugh.

    Do what the rest of us do with crummy jobs and crummy managers. Find another job and get over it. This won't be the last time something like this happens to you. It happens to everybody, sometimes more than once.

    "You have the right to remain silent. Now exercise the ability." (Ron White)

    but i also have the freedom of speech and i think im going to post it with the names cut out. This song will definitely be awesome, some old eminem/hopsin type shit
  • 12-03-2014, 05:47 AM
    free9man
    Re: Posting Song Lyrics That Could Be Interpreted as a Threat
    Quote:

    Quoting DylanDude
    View Post
    but i also have the freedom of speech

    Actually, right now this may not fall under that should you be charged. That is what the Supreme Court case I referred to earlier is about.

    Don't be surprised if your next prospective employer does a social media check on you, finds it and then trashes your application/resume. The lyrics clearly indicate someone who could be a problem, and potentially dangerous, employee with or without names.
Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page
Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next LastLast
All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:54 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.4
Copyright © 2023 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.
Copyright © 2004 - 2018 ExpertLaw.com, All Rights Reserved