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  • 11-22-2014, 11:22 AM
    cbg
    Re: Denied Legal Counsel in a Criminal Case
    I didn't say you were crazy, but yes, it's damned arrogant.

    No one said you were required to say it. But it can still be a good idea even when not legally required. To refuse to say it when it's clear that the person who holds your freedom in his hand wants you to say it is just plain idiotic. And to come back over a decade later and decide you want recourse is worse than idiotic -it's moronic.
  • 11-22-2014, 01:52 PM
    free9man
    Re: Denied Legal Counsel in a Criminal Case
    You still have not said what you are looking for. As far as being required to address the court as "sir", if that is a rule in that judge's court then you are required.
  • 11-22-2014, 02:19 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: Denied Legal Counsel in a Criminal Case
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    No where did I say I demanded respect, I went in for plea hearing on something I did not do, they had completely zero evidence, person on camera was fully not me, the person the store employees saw and is on the camera does not match my description.

    I went in for plea hearing.. I said not guilty. Judge asked my reasoning for not saying sir..and I gave it. There is nothing arrogant about that..there is nothing there that makes a person crazy. This is America. I shall also state again that i am not required to say sir in a plea hearing. If I am required then please show this.

    I also have court room witness, court documents, and even the jail staff that backs up what I have said here. As I also stated, I had zero incidents in the jail house. As I stated the jail staff was also questioning why I was not being allowed out of isolation which goes to the next thing someone stated here, the lady I talked to...remember I was in isolation and also a male and I was not allowed any visitations....so clearly it was not another inmate.

    For the lithium statement, I did not nor have I ever been a mental patient anywhere and I have not ever been prescribed any meds for mental issues. As I stated I said I could not sleep and they brought me a sleep aid and for some reason not given to me lithium as well, all I requested was sleep aid. There was zero reasoning on the jail house computer for me to not be allowed in population either.

    :)

    - - - Updated - - -

    Here is more I found on the judge,
    Recently a former judge in Georiga filed a lawsuit against the judge of my case. The former judge states in his lawsuit that the judge over my case conspired to have him removed as a judge after his refusal to allow "illegal" warrents to be brought to his court room.

    "A former county magistrate court judge in Georgia claims in a lawsuit that he was fired as the result of a conspiracy among state Superior Court judges who were angered that his refusal to grant illegal arrest warrants in his courtroom increased their workload." "s. "Upon information and belief, The Board, Judge Edwards, Judge Sams, Judge Hankinson, and Judge Crawford intentionally made false complaints about Plaintiff to the JQC ... [and] falsely stated that plaintiff was not properly admitted as a magistrate judge."" wensday oct 8 2014

    So it is not just me that believes this judge is doing weird stuff...other juidges themself believe it so much they themself have filed lawsuits against him.

    http://www.courthousenews.com/2014/10/08/72252.htm


    A little disingenuous retconning "the judge is BAYADD", don't you think?

    :cool:
  • 11-22-2014, 03:18 PM
    jk
    Re: Denied Legal Counsel in a Criminal Case
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    Quoting Georgia1977
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    No where did I say I demanded respect, I went in for plea hearing on something I did not do, they had completely zero evidence, person on camera was fully not me, the person the store employees saw and is on the camera does not match my description.

    I went in for plea hearing.. I said not guilty. Judge asked my reasoning for not saying sir..and I gave it.


    so when was your trial? If you plead not guilty, there had to be a trial. When was it? Was it a bench trial or a jury trial?

    I don't know any place where the judges control the jail. If you were in isolation it is because somebody in the jail system felt that is where you needed to be.
  • 11-22-2014, 04:24 PM
    souperdave
    Re: Denied Legal Counsel in a Criminal Case
    As all this appears to be "issues" that took a 14 year hiatus, I'd hazard a guess that the ghost-of-christmas-past has exhumed itself from some dark corner of your psyche and is now begging for attention.

    It apparently rents a pretty big headspace! Given the fact that you recall, in grave details, the goings-on from more than a decade ago is quite interesting.
  • 11-24-2014, 03:16 AM
    Georgia1977
    Re: Denied Legal Counsel in a Criminal Case
    Well the way I see it, if a Judge is basing a person being guilty or not solely on if the Judge likes the person, if the person has no income, and does not show judge "proper" respect in the Judge's eyes...a Judge basing if a person is guilty or not based solely on the Judge attempting to make the people do stuff that is not even required by law.....does not sound like such a fair trial if you ask me. Last time I checked, anyone who does not have a income should be appointed legal counsel however this Judge stated publically that "tax payers should not have to pay for people's legal counsel simply because the person has no job so request is denied". He also stated that if I am found not guilty thru a jury trial I will still be required to pay ALL court costs, fees, etc and I will be charged 250.00 for each time I said "not guilty". Again, it is my understanding that if person is found not guilty then they are the ones not required to pay much less being charged 250 for saying not guilty if jury finds the person not guilty.

    I think a person is guilty or not guilty based solely on the crime and evidence presented. In my case, there was no evidence, the witness description does not match me, the camera footage does not show me (it shows who did the crime and again does not match my description at all), I also checked records and the place I was at has a completely different address than the store in question (I just checked to make sure and there is various different address' and the location I was at shows a address different from the store and the store does not provide any rent etc from that location I was).

    The court house was located inside the same building the jail is located. I also know my aunt was arrested right after I was in the court building about 15 minutes later, after I was arrested for not saying "sir"....my aunt went to the public phones located in the same building and was informing my other relatives of what happened at which point a officer from inside the court walks up, physically hangs the phone up in mid conversation and says she is being arrested for contempt also. Apprently the Judge did not want people using the public pay phones to inform others about my arrest. My aunt was lead off to a separate "isolation" cell.

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    Here is something I found from last year in the same court room, just different Judge.

    "Five defendants convicted of serious crimes in Fayette County deserve new trials because the presiding judge should have recused himself due to an extramarital affair he had with their defense attorney, the Georgia Court of Appeals has determined." "former Fayette County Superior Court Judge Paschal A. English Jr. violated the Georgia Code of Judicial Conduct by presiding over the four trials" "Fayette County Superior Court Judge Fletcher Sams, who later recused himself from hearing the new trial appeals, noted during a court hearing that one of the defendants in question may have received a lighter sentence than would have been expected, “With an aggravated assault and other felonies, I am just kind of surprised that he didn’t get 20 years to serve,” Sams said during the hearing."
    http://www.thecitizen.com/articles/1...his-lawyer-lov


    This one is from 2008
    "Attorney and County Commissioner Eric Maxwell ran Judge Fletcher Sams' campaign. After Maxwell got into office, he and his friends on the Commission handed Sams a raise of somewhere in the neighborhood of $35 K per year.

    http://fayettefirewall.blogspot.com/...1_archive.html
  • 11-24-2014, 03:35 AM
    Dogmatique
    Re: Denied Legal Counsel in a Criminal Case
    Did you have a question?

    One thing. Being indigent does NOT necessarily mean a PD will be made available.

    Can you guess why?
  • 11-24-2014, 06:15 AM
    free9man
    Re: Denied Legal Counsel in a Criminal Case
    I'm sorry but I have to throw the BS flag now. An aunt arrested for contempt of court for using a public phone to report information that is going to be available to the public? Unless the judge placed a gag order on the proceedings, which I highly and seriously doubt occurred, that ain't gonna happen.

    P.S. The $250 bucks a pop would be for the contempt of court, which is not affected in any way, shape or form by the outcome of the trial.

    Since junior is obviously only here to complain, embellish his story and post stories about the court that convicted him...I'd say it's time to walk away.
  • 11-24-2014, 07:28 AM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Denied Legal Counsel in a Criminal Case
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    P.S. The $250 bucks a pop would be for the contempt of court, which is not affected in any way, shape or form by the outcome of the trial.

    Most likely the aunt was in the courtroom when junior was disrupting the proceedings, and was making comments from the gallery.

    Odds are, also, that the contempt charge for the statement "not guilty" have nothing to do with any actual effort to plead "not guilty" and more to do with the court's trying to get answers to basic questions, such as "Do you understand these rights that I have just explained to you", and getting an inappropriate response of "not guilty".
  • 11-24-2014, 07:33 AM
    free9man
    Re: Denied Legal Counsel in a Criminal Case
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    Most likely the aunt was in the courtroom when junior was disrupting the proceedings, and was making comments from the gallery.

    Yes, that is a possibility but it is not how Junior described it in his post.
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