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  • 10-18-2014, 11:30 AM
    happygal
    Lying About Termination for an Application for Public Assistance
    My question involves labor and employment law for the state of: Colorado

    I am only asking this question because I am curious. We had an employee recently quit, with no notice. We asked her to finish out atleast just the next few day's shifts, but she said she could not. She claimed she was offered a much better paying job that needed her to start immediately, or they would find someone else. She then returned the next day with a form for my boss to fill out. It was an application to amend the amount of housing assistance she is receiving. On the form it asks for her "termination" date, where she filled in the date she quit. She needs someone to sign it for her and fill out just a few other things.

    My boss is refusing to sign this form. She is upset that we have been put in a situation where we are working 60 hr weeks until we can hire/train someone and claimed she will not lie to help this ex employee out. In the past I had filled out a form for her when she was applying for food stamps. Our GM was out of town and told me to go ahead and get it done for her so she didn't have to wait until they returned. This ex employee has stopped in several times in the last few days wanting her form, begging me to just fill it out for her but I've just told her I don't know where it is because I don't want to get involved. Seems pretty fishy, but I don't really know how the system works. If we don't come up with her form here soon, I am thinking she will probably come in with a brand new one, and ask me to fill out since I had in the past. Odds are I'll be at work, since I am one of the ones left covering her shifts! Haha. Is she abusing the system as my boss has said? Or is this just how the system works?
  • 10-18-2014, 11:39 AM
    Dogmatique
    Re: Lying About Termination for Assistance
    The ex employee told the truth - her termination date is the date she quit.

    Exactly what does your employer think is the termination date?
  • 10-18-2014, 11:43 AM
    happygal
    Re: Lying About Termination for Assistance
    I guess she sees it as the date she was fired, which she was not. I am not sure. Could just be my boss being spiteful.
  • 10-18-2014, 11:44 AM
    cbg
    Re: Lying About Termination for Assistance
    Whatever date is the last day she actually worked and got paid for is her termination date.
  • 10-18-2014, 11:46 AM
    happygal
    Re: Lying About Termination for Assistance
    I just wasn't really sure. I'd like to just fill it out for her and be done with it. I know you can be denied unemployement if you quit. I was just kind of interested.
  • 10-18-2014, 11:50 AM
    CourtClerk
    Re: Lying About Termination for Assistance
    Termination date simply means the date she terminated her employment, whether it be because she was fired or quit. I really hope that the boss is just being spiteful because if she really doesn't know what the definition of termination date is, then she's got no place in human resources or supervising anything but the air around her. Then again, she's got no place there if she's being spiteful either.
  • 10-18-2014, 12:02 PM
    cbg
    Re: Lying About Termination for Assistance
    On the other hand, it is true that no law requires to boss to complete the form at all.
  • 10-18-2014, 12:05 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: Lying About Termination for Assistance
    That's also true.

    Honestly OP? How someone treats others is very often an excellent measure of how they'll treat you, too. With that degree of Petty, I'd be looking somewhere else to work.
  • 10-18-2014, 01:55 PM
    Disagreeable
    Re: Lying About Termination for an Application for Public Assistance
    I don't think it is petty to refuse to sign a housing form for an employee who is supposedly working somewhere else making more money. It sounds like the opposite, she wants to stay home and get more subsidy. Otherwise, the new employer would fill out the form to lower her housing supplement. Call social service and ask them because she may be lying and playing the system.
  • 10-18-2014, 03:41 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: Lying About Termination for an Application for Public Assistance
    She has a form. The form wants to know when her last day was. She wrote down the date she quit. Which part of that is wrong?
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