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  • 09-29-2014, 11:15 AM
    cbg
    Re: Left 4 Tear Old in Car for Literally 4 Minutes
    I was never left alone in a car with the motor running when I was four years old...
  • 09-29-2014, 11:32 AM
    budwad
    Re: Left 4 Tear Old in Car for Literally 4 Minutes
    Did that really happen to you Aaron? Must have been an old car. If that happened today, your parents would have a criminal record and who knows, your law education may never had been paid for.:friendly_wink:

    I go to the supermarket 3 or 4 times a week. I see kids sitting in cars while mom or dad goes into the store all the time. It has never occurred to me to call the police to report them. Does that make me a bad person?
  • 09-29-2014, 11:47 AM
    aaron
    Re: Left 4 Tear Old in Car for Literally 4 Minutes
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    Did that really happen to you Aaron?

    Yes.
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    Must have been an old car.

    You're calling me old? Okay, fair enough.... What it was, though, was a standard transmission.
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    If that happened today, your parents would have a criminal record and who knows, your law education may never had been paid for.

    Had there been a bad outcome then, it would have been subject to potential charges. Had the same thing happened now, nobody outside the family would know about it so there would be no charges. One way or the other, I don't think it would have affected my savings and student loan eligibility.
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    Does that make me a bad person?

    Are you inviting us to tell you what makes you a bad person? There's a door best left shut. :cool: (Just kidding.)
  • 09-29-2014, 12:06 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: Left 4 Tear Old in Car for Literally 4 Minutes
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    I agree completely and what I was trying to say in my original post. If there is a real concern about a danger, by all means report it. But just to get someone in trouble because you want to teach them some lesson because you think you are smarter than they makes me question where we have gotten to as a society.



    The woman saw him walk away from the car. If she had said something to him this wouldn't have happened. If she had waited 5 minutes before calling the police, this wouldn't have happened. But no. She knew better than him what was best and then just drove away.

    Everyone of you critical folks was left in a car or unattended in your life while growing up. How on earth did you ever make it to adulthood without your parents being arrested?


    I was never, ever left in a car. I was never unattended, either (sleeping notwithstanding) Of course, being a no-car family and being the youngest sibling probably helped.
    When thou does assume...
  • 09-29-2014, 12:13 PM
    jdonaldson
    Re: Left 4 Tear Old in Car for Literally 4 Minutes
    I appreciate all of the good and bad comments. Either way I have to face the music.

    What is puzzling to me, but a little reassuring (to a very small degree) is that the deputy did not write anything down in front of me nor ask anything more than if it was true as the woman reported (That i left my car and ran into the store leaving my son unattended for "4 to 5 minutes" (his exact words that he said he was told by some woman) - this happened approximately 45 hours (nearly 2 days) ago and I have not heard anything from anyone on the incident. I did call a lawyer and he said he would contact the sherrif's dept to see if he could find out if charges were going to filed or what was going to happen, and he said he would call me if he were able to find out anything. He said if I were to be charged he (obviously) would want me to retain his services.

    If the police dept or DA or Child Protectives or whomever else may be involved thought my son was in danger or I was going to put my son or anyone else in a neglectful situation, wouldn't or shouldn't something have been done already?

    Maybe they are making me sweat it out so I learn my lesson?

    I am just trying to understand. Maybe they are interviewing the sales clerks at the store or asked to see surveillance videos or are investigating other things first? I just don't know. I DO know that I am very nervous and cannot explain how horrible I feel that I brought this on myself and my family.
  • 09-29-2014, 12:17 PM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Left 4 Tear Old in Car for Literally 4 Minutes
    I'm wondering if the woman got into an argument with a guy at the scene who she was accusing of leaving the child in the car, and if he came across as hostile and dismissive because it wasn't his kid or his car.

    I already indicated that, were this being regarded as an emergency or a situation where the child was in danger, I think protective services would have already acted. I don't think anybody is trying to make you "sweat it out" -- things move slowly over the weekend -- but if it were deemed an emergency you would already have seen action.

    You arrived home shortly after the incident. You weren't drunk. You were polite and cooperative. Nothing was obviously wrong with your home. The child was safe in the car, and showed no signs of abuse or neglect. I don't think the officer is doing any further investigation before making his report.
  • 09-29-2014, 12:20 PM
    budwad
    Re: Left 4 Tear Old in Car for Literally 4 Minutes
    Paranoia is a debilitating condition so stop thinking about it for now and wait to see if anything happens. Get on with your life.
  • 09-30-2014, 09:46 AM
    jdonaldson
    Re: Left 4 Tear Old in Car for Literally 4 Minutes
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    I'm wondering if the woman got into an argument with a guy at the scene who she was accusing of leaving the child in the car, and if he came across as hostile and dismissive because it wasn't his kid or his car.

    I already indicated that, were this being regarded as an emergency or a situation where the child was in danger, I think protective services would have already acted. I don't think anybody is trying to make you "sweat it out" -- things move slowly over the weekend -- but if it were deemed an emergency you would already have seen action.

    You arrived home shortly after the incident. You weren't drunk. You were polite and cooperative. Nothing was obviously wrong with your home. The child was safe in the car, and showed no signs of abuse or neglect. I don't think the officer is doing any further investigation before making his report.

    Thank you. Those are ALL great points. I never even thought of the fact that the "Altercation" may very well have been with the guy who approached me as I walked back to my car.

    As far as drinking, I hadn't had anything. I would NEVER do that, but I don't know if it a good sign that he just assumed that or what. I mean he KNEW it was a liquor store I went into and he didn't ask me to produce anything (the 2 little 1-shotters of Vodka that I bought and were sitting in my car).

    Also, my son was grabbing my leg as if he was afraid to go towards the house where the deputy was. I don't know if the deputy would think of this as a sign of my son feeling safe with me or maybe he took it as a sign of him being scared altogether.

    The only thing that I thought about was that my wife stayed outside while she let my son in the house (once again leaving him unattended - which I know is really a completely different thing, but still I just we made a good impression that we are good people, we have no record of any kind - never been arrested and I got my first ticket in 13 years for making a rolling right hand turn on red about a year ago). We are law abiding and have a loving, safe home. We both have very good jobs. My son goes to a daycare that is over $1000 a month because we want him to have the best. We live in a big house with a pool and he has everything he needs along with tons of toys, etc etc...

    I really appreciate the words of comfort you just commented. I hope the deputy isn't taking it further - even though he said it is out of his hands and that his "Supervisor has to make a decision."

    Do you think there is a chance that I will just not hear anything at all if they decide not to take any further action?

    I think if I don't hear something by Friday, shouldn't I have a right to know what is happening? I mean I am walking around a nervous wreck...

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    Paranoia is a debilitating condition so stop thinking about it for now and wait to see if anything happens. Get on with your life.

    You are absolutely right. I am really trying to forget about it and not worry until there actually IS something to worry about and IS some action I need to take...

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    Well, in 5 hours we will be on 3 days since the incident, and I still have not heard anything. I just stopped home to check the mail and nothing was in it.

    I guess at this point, no news is good news?
  • 09-30-2014, 10:20 AM
    jk
    Re: Left 4 Tear Old in Car for Literally 4 Minutes
    Statutes limiting how long the prosecutor has to file charges varies depending on the crime and state. Minor crimes limitations are often limited to one year but could be shorter. The longer it is without hearing anything the better it is but it is way too soon to think you are in the clear yet. Think a month or more before you really start relaxing.

    And realize nothing happened to your file during the weekend. The prosecutor wouldn't even see it until Monday at the earliest and depending on how busy they are may not see it for awhile, if it was even forwarded to them.
  • 09-30-2014, 10:36 AM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Left 4 Tear Old in Car for Literally 4 Minutes
    Although yes, things can move slowly, I think it's a stretch that this case would result in charges under New York's child neglect laws, and also reiterate that if the authorities viewed this matter as a situation where the child were actually in danger they would have acted by now.
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