So by "I'm sure he meant for me to stop and not come back " you meant "I'm sure he didn't care if I stayed and he encouraged me to move in for close-up shots while he watched me film"? Come on.
Charged with Criminal Trespassing at a School
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09-25-2014, 06:57 AMMr. KnowitallRe: Charged with Criminal Trespassing at a School
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09-25-2014, 07:05 AMsupreme999Re: Charged with Criminal Trespassing at a School
thanks llworking. That was in the past okay. I would never keep recording after a confrontation with a coach if it happened today. But I wouldn't be recording in the first place anyways since I'm done with that. Anyways this whole thing was only a 1 year period of time. Not like it's been going on for years and years.
Anyways, I think I got enough information from this thread. I can't read any more posts of ppl saying I need therapy or I'm sick. It just makes the whole thing feel worse. Only thing I can do in this situation is try to stay as positive as I can. Thanks for all the helpful replies guys. I'm going to try to turn my life around, wish me luck. -
09-25-2014, 07:33 AMcbgRe: Charged with Criminal Trespassing at a School
I do wish you luck. But to do your best at making your luck turn out to be good instead of bad, get a lawyer and do not talk about this incident with ANYONE except that attorney. Do not apologize to anyone at the school. Do not try to change anyone's opinion of you except through that attorney. Do remember that your history of assumptions of what will happen is what got you into the mess in the first place, and stop assuming that violations are not a big deal. Do remember that if the meaning of what someone says is clear, it doesn't matter if they don't actually say the words.
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09-25-2014, 07:38 AMsupreme999Re: Charged with Criminal Trespassing at a SchoolThanks appreciate the advice.Quote:
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09-25-2014, 09:49 AMDeputyDogRe: Charged with Criminal Trespassing at a School
You're sick. There's no helping people like you. This will all continue until you do something for which you can be given a long - effectively life - prison sentence.
Not only is what you are doing sick, but from the things you are writing, and your manner of writing them, you are "off" beyond just being a pervert.
And keep deleting pictures off your computer. It won't matter. You and I both know that there were illegal things there. There are ICAC units across the country, and when they serve a search warrant, they will have no trouble recovering what you deleted. Maybe that's how you'll finally be able to be put away.
What's clear is that you have this compulsion and probably a host of other issues that aren't going to be helped. -
09-25-2014, 10:02 AMJohn_28Re: Charged with Criminal Trespassing at a SchoolQuote:
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Be careful, here. You don't know that he had something illegal on his computer. You don't want him suing you for defamation, do you?
As for the OP, I would advise him to go to youtube and watch clips of Olympic gymnastics competitions. Or do you puritans think that he should be arrested for watching those as well? -
09-25-2014, 10:29 AMDeputyDogRe: Charged with Criminal Trespassing at a SchoolThis isn't a court of law, it's a public conversation. I "KNOW" that he did, yes. And I don't have to prove that beyond a reasonable doubt here.Quote:
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As for suing me for defamation, that's so asinine that I'm not even going to comment on it.
As for watching clips on YouTube, I don't think he should do anything to further this compulsion, which most behavioral scientists now agree cannot be cured but merely managed. I think he should take lots of cold showers and do whatever else is therapist tells him to. Time and again, it's been shown that these types trying to fulfill their sick desires in (sometimes barely) legal ways only ratchets up their libido until they can't resist the real thing. Your advice is not good advice.
And I don't know whether you are a lawyer or merely playing one on the internet, but this isn't a game. Real children are harmed and scarred for life by people like this. This isn't some contest, where the cops and everyone else play by the rules, and if they get bested by someone like this guy, they simply say "Ohhh YOU! Well played! We'll get you another day you rascal" and everyone leaves slapping each others backs. This is deadly serious, with horrible consequences, and the cops need to do anything they can to get people like this off the streets. And people like you, trying to advise him on how he might theoretically beat this, and defending this technical right to film, etc. are almost as low as people like him. -
09-25-2014, 12:07 PMaaronRe: Charged with Criminal Trespassing at a SchoolYou need to start behaving yourself in this forum. Thanks.Quote:
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09-25-2014, 12:53 PMJohn_28Re: Charged with Criminal Trespassing at a SchoolFirst of all, in a court of law, if you were speculating that the OP did something illegal, that speculation would not even be admissible. But, that kind of speculation in a public conversation may be defamatory and therefore actionable.Quote:
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Actually, what I've read is that, the more prevalent legal pornography is in a given state or area, the *lower* the rate of sexual assault in that state or area.Quote:
Time and again, it's been shown that these types trying to fulfill their sick desires in (sometimes barely) legal ways only ratchets up their libido until they can't resist the real thing. Your advice is not good advice.
We're supposed to get rid of the rule of law in these situations?Quote:
And I don't know whether you are a lawyer or merely playing one on the internet, but this isn't a game. Real children are harmed and scarred for life by people like this. This isn't some contest, where the cops and everyone else play by the rules, and if they get bested by someone like this guy, they simply say "Ohhh YOU! Well played! We'll get you another day you rascal" and everyone leaves slapping each others backs. This is deadly serious, with horrible consequences, and the cops need to do anything they can to get people like this off the streets.
If the school wants to legally prevent videotaping, then the school can enact a rule that says that no member of the audience can engage in videotaping. The school can hire its own videographer to videotape, and can then sell the videotapes only to parents of the gymnasts. That may be a legal way for the school to regulate videotaping. -
09-25-2014, 01:04 PMllworkingRe: Charged with Criminal Trespassing at a SchoolSince the OP has already been arrested and convicted once for doing the same thing, he basically admitted himself that he did something illegal.Quote:
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Care to cite your source for those stats?Quote:
Actually, what I've read is that, the more prevalent legal pornography is in a given state or area, the *lower* the rate of sexual assault in that state or area.
Wrong, a school can certainly stop a stranger from videotaping children.Quote:
We're supposed to get rid of the rule of law in these situations?
If the school wants to legally prevent videotaping, then the school can enact a rule that says that no member of the audience can engage in videotaping. The school can hire its own videographer to videotape, and can then sell the videotapes only to parents of the gymnasts. That may be a legal way for the school to regulate videotaping.