I might have bought this story a couple of weeks ago.
It's mid-September now. School has started just about everywhere. Not buying it now.
Young Children Left Home Alone for Extended Periods of Time
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09-13-2014, 12:54 PMcbgRe: Young Children Left Home Alone for Extended Periods of Time
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09-13-2014, 12:58 PMllworkingRe: Young Children Left Home Alone for Extended Periods of TimeYeah, the way she is writing makes it sound like its happening right now...and not that it was something that was a problem over the summer. Of course, there is the possibility that dad and stepmom are working second shift...and this is after school until 11-12 PM, but I would think that the OP would have been more specific if that was the case.Quote:
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09-13-2014, 06:24 PMDogmatiqueRe: Young Children Left Home Alone for Extended Periods of Time
I know many of us were raising our siblings and working on the farm from dusk to dawn, but yeah...I'd probably take issue with my 12 year old being a daycare provider for 10 hours a day all week....
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09-13-2014, 06:32 PMCourtClerkRe: Young Children Left Home Alone for Extended Periods of Time
If your children are in school, then they're not being left from 6am - 6pm. They're in school for the majority of that time.
And i'll correct one other thing you said, that the judge set a hearing means that he cares at least a teenie tiny bit because if he really DIDN'T care AT ALL, he would have thrown your motion out all together. -
09-13-2014, 07:03 PMDogmatiqueRe: Young Children Left Home Alone for Extended Periods of TimeQuote:
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Let's also dial down the melodrama.
You know who molests kids most often? FAMILY. In the cases of stranger abuse, the abusers have a tendency to pick their "mark" based upon (for one thing) vulnerability. A kid walking dogs doesn't exactly scream "Grab me!" .
As far as first aid goes - why haven't you taught first aid? Why can't your son go outside and make note of the house number and the street?
Did you lose custody or was Dad deemed the more appropriate placement?
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09-14-2014, 02:04 PMEA1070aRe: Young Children Left Home Alone for Extended Periods of Time
I suspect this has more to do with trying to find something to pick a fight over and control than anything else, like so many of the posts we see here from "concerned" parties.
The youngest isn't even your own child. I'm not a fan of putting siblings in charge of each other, but it happens and it's been going on for centuries. My grandmother was the eldest of 9 kids. Guess who was expected to, and did in fact, help with the other children?
Filing a report and taking up time from CPS that could be better used helping kids who are truly in harm's way would be ridiculous.
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09-16-2014, 01:56 PMFlores83Re: Young Children Left Home Alone for Extended Periods of Time
School just stared 2 weeks ago where they are and so no now they are not left alone so many hours just 4 to 5 hours each day but on Saturdays and any days that there is not in school they are left the whole day alone.
You know I came on here for legal advice not to be put down and for people to act like its okay for a child to raise itself and other children.
I don't know any of you but you all do seem to be quite rude at all time to me and not once have any of you given me any legal advice.
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Thanks for passing judgment and no I am not looking for any reason to start a fight. I am just looking to keep my children safe and out of harms way.
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09-16-2014, 02:24 PMDogmatiqueRe: Young Children Left Home Alone for Extended Periods of TimeQuote:
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I'm starting to understand why Dad has custody.
Look. You provided information that didn't make your question clear - you left us without the important stuff. Why are you getting so defensive? Do you think that your ex's husband is going to hold your hand and provide unicorn breath?
In fact, you painted a picture that doesn't EXIST. You forgot to mention the important facts and frankly I believe that was deliberate. -
09-16-2014, 02:32 PMllworkingRe: Young Children Left Home Alone for Extended Periods of TimeYou have been given legal advice. This is not a cut and dry situation. It would all depend on the attitude of the judge and any other court professionals that the judge involves.Quote:
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I would not do it except for very short amounts of time, on a very occasional basis. Other people would.
Basically, however the main reason I wouldn't do it is because no matter how responsible a 12 year old is, they are unlikely to be mature enough to handle a real crisis, and if a real crisis happens not only could someone get seriously hurt, but CPS and the police could rain holy heck down on the parents who did it.
Once upon a time I was 12 years old. I was very successful babysitting for other people's children therefore my parents decided to let me babysit my three siblings during the summer so that mom could work. Dad's office was only 5 minutes away and they felt that was close enough for him to be able to be there in a crisis. One day my sister wasn't cooperating with me so I locked her out of the house to cool off. That made her so mad that she was pounding on the glass screen door demanding to be let in. She broke the glass and cut herself badly. I screamed on the telephone to my dad that my sister was bleeding to death. He comes tearing back to the house and I was completely useless...I was so upset all I could do was lay on the couch crying that I had killed my sister.
While dad was dealing with trying to get the bleeding to stop (and there was a LOT of blood) my brother comes running into the house screaming that he had killed his cat, which sent dad off on a spiral...and nobody could find my littlest brother who was so scared he was hiding under his bed.
Now, luckily my sister just needed a few stitches...the cat was not dead, it was just really ticked off with a sore tail that got caught in the spokes of my brother's bicycle because my brother decided to take the cat for a bike ride, and we found my littlest brother pretty fast.
However, mom decided to quit her job and try again once school started. However, can you imagine what a heyday it could have been (had my parents been divorced) and the other parent found out about that day? -
09-16-2014, 02:43 PMLawResearcherMissyRe: Young Children Left Home Alone for Extended Periods of TimeYou should learn about reading comprehension, tootsie-boo.Quote:
This shouldn't be called expertlaw if there is no legal advice given.
It's at the bottom of every page.Quote:
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Now, that said, you DID get legal advice - there's no minimum age for babysitting in the state of Oklahoma. That's stone fact. You're just mad because it wasn't what you wanted to hear.
Also, you got a correct answer in response to your over the top and hysterical "But sex offenders! Kidnappers!" nonsense. Every year, around 58,200 are abducted by relatives (usually the other parent or the grandparents) or close family friends. Only 115 are abducted by strangers. Sex offenders? 90% of child victims know their offender, with almost half of the offenders being a family member. Of sexual assaults against people age 12 and up, approximately 80% of the victims know the offender.
So, when you flip out and cry "What to say that when my daughter 9 goes out to walk the dogs that one of these people grab her and rape her and kill her."? The answer is "Statistics and common sense say that you're out of your damned mind and need to stop acting like the Boogie Man is just waiting to steal your child. No one wants her."
Get yourself a grip, lady. Older sibs have been responsible for younger sibs since the dawn of time. At 12 and 9, your kids are MORE than old enough to know their address(es), phone number(s), emergency protocols like when to call 911, basic first aid, and the names and phone numbers of at least two neighbors they can go to in case of an emergency. If they don't know these things, TEACH THEM. Don't enforce helplessness on them. The sooner, the better. The 12 year-old should be taking the Red Cross babysitting course (it's recommended for kids 11 - 15), and both of your kids should take the Red Cross First Aid class.
I agree. For every complaint of "Wah, this person isn't raising children the same way I am, and I don't like it!" complaint, there are three or four children in ACTUAL DANGER. CPS is underfunded and overworked by people who think of CPS as their personal enforcer squad, and that's got to stop.Quote:
Filing a report and taking up time from CPS that could be better used helping kids who are truly in harm's way would be ridiculous.