Harassed by Investors After My Business Went Bankrupt

My question involves business law in the state of: New York

Hello,

I am the owner of an online business which sold securities, we were quite profitable until a flaw in the website was exploited and the business crashed. I have previously secured a loan and signed a contract with a person who has demanded a ransom or else he would reveal personal details about me to the investors which is otherwise not available to them, personal details such as address, personal phone number, bank accounts etc etc. Once I didn't pay the person that loaned me the funds all my personal information was revealed and I was contentiously harassed, threatened, had drugs shipped to my apartment and reported to the police as means of revenge as well as had lawyers calling me on multiple occasions on my private number, due to the non-stopping harassment I had to change my phone number and move to a different address.

I have never under-estimated the risks of investing into a highly profitable, high risk online business but that's not the point. What laws did the person that loaned me the funds and revealed my personal information break?

Best regards.

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Quoting itsmemax

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I have previously secured a loan and signed a contract with a person who has demanded a ransom or else he would reveal personal details about me to the investors which is otherwise not available to them, personal details such as address, personal phone number, bank accounts etc etc. What laws did the person that loaned me the funds and revealed my personal information break?

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Assuming that your characterization of that person's "demanded a ransom or else" is accurate and not just hype to garner sympathy, then that person appears to have committed Larceny By Extortion - Section 155.05 (e) of the NY State Penal Code.

However, if the person was just demanding that you pay the debt after you defaulted, then that is likely to be a valid defense to the charge of Larceny By Extortion.

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Once I didn't pay the person that loaned me the funds all my personal information was revealed

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Probably nothing illegal about that.

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My question involves business law in the state of: New York
I was contentiously harassed, threatened, had drugs shipped to my apartment and reported to the police as means of revenge as well as had lawyers calling me on multiple occasions on my private number,

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Some of those acts might be criminal in nature but you would have to report the people that did them, not the person who gave out your information.

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Quoting adjusterjack

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Assuming that your characterization of that person's "demanded a ransom or else" is accurate and not just hype to garner sympathy, then that person appears to have committed Larceny By Extortion - Section 155.05 (e) of the NY State Penal Code.

However, if the person was just demanding that you pay the debt after you defaulted, then that is likely to be a valid defense to the charge of Larceny By Extortion.



Probably nothing illegal about that.



Some of those acts might be criminal in nature but you would have to report the people that did them, not the person who gave out your information.

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But how can the person legally demand for me to pay a debt to someone else? I might have been harsh calling it a "ransom" but it's exactly what it was, I held no debt to the loaner yet he demanded that I pay him a sum or else he'd reveal the information. All the loan was already repaid to the loaner including interest by this point but he demanded additional funds for the information because of the situation of the business.

I'm in a painful situation because all the other parties that caused the actual harm are anonymous (the more harm the more anonymous the party) yet the person that revealed my private information isn't.

Sorry if I wasn't clear in my first post.

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Quoting itsmemax

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But how can the person legally demand for me to pay a debt to someone else? I might have been harsh calling it a "ransom" but it's exactly what it was, I held no debt to the loaner yet he demanded that I pay him a sum or else he'd reveal the information. All the loan was already repaid to the loaner including interest by this point but he demanded additional funds for the information because of the situation of the business.

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It's still not clear.

Perhaps you can assign names (not real ones) to who you owed and who you didn't and which one extorted how much and include a chronology of events.

I would be just as concerned about a criminal investigation regarding your behavior and the money you or associates made as a result of the "flaw".

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I would be just as concerned about a criminal investigation regarding your behavior and the money you or associates made as a result of the "flaw".

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I wonder if Bubba Jimmy was referring to you:

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There's a funny dynamic at this website. Some folks here think it is great sport to turn people's questions around and accuse them of all sorts of mischief, like calling them felons. I wish people who have no intention of helping others would remain silent rather than do that. But alas, you're on a free website so... you get what you pay for, I guess.

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Yep, I have a talent for getting to the issues people do not want to discuss while they try to find ways to cover their tracks or twist the law to their advantage.

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Quoting adjusterjack

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I wonder if Bubba Jimmy was referring to you:

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Yep, I have a talent for getting to the issues people do not want to discuss while they try to find ways to cover their tracks or twist the law to their advantage.

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It's still not clear.

Perhaps you can assign names (not real ones) to who you owed and who you didn't and which one extorted how much and include a chronology of events.

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1. Profit is growing for the online business but still not fast enough.
2. I loan some money with high interest in order to invest into the business from Bill. A contract is signed with the basic terms.
3. The online business is now making significant money, I repay Bill the whole sum including interest, we are both satisfied with the good business.
4. The business securities are now being offered publicly.
5. Derp-derpinsons with low financial intelligence are now investing their life savings over-evaluating an incredibly risky business (I stressed this fact on a DAILY basis!)
6. The business has a bug found and quickly crashes into a firey oblivion
7. Idiots and manchildren are now crying about their wives divorcing them and it serves them right because they are idiots and manchildren, it's natural selection at it's finest.
8. I actually manage to LOSE 5,000$ including months of my time managing the business.
9. Bill now comes over, demands a fixed sum to be paid to him or else he'd reveal my personal details (which are not available to the public) to the manchildren.
10. Instead of manning up & owning up to their stupid actions the manchildren constantly harass me about when I will "repay" them.
11. I claim that I MIGHT repay them from future business because I feel sorry for them and don't want them to start dropping from skyscrapers but this will not happen in the near future, this was said in our official forum in an unsigned contract. << My main mistake

Since I told Bill to **** off my details were leaked and I was threaten on a daily basis by fat manchildren living in their mothers basement as well as sent drugs and a criminal case opened against me by the police station 44 IQ dumbasses that couldn't comprehend any of the above with their tiny brain, just kept repeating "Well if you play it hard we'll go hard on you and give you a big sentence if you just confess we'll go light on you since you're cooperating". I knew for a fact that they were tipped off about the package and tried to reason with them by showing that it was done on purpose but they only grew more suspicious.

As soon as I realized just what stupid assholes the manchildren are I refused to repay any sum of money to them. Some people did generate significant profit from the ordeal but I was not among them and neither is anyone I know, I didn't "tip off" anyone.

I guess ultimately it is between God and the SEC if a complaint is filed now that your background info is known.

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I guess ultimately it is between God and the SEC if a complaint is filed now that your background info is known.

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I am not from communist U.S. myself, the Bundesgrenzschutz can't come knocking my door down arbitrarily and throwing flashbangs into my childrens face only for them to slip into a coma and die a week later.

Bill is from New York though.

Just to be clear I was more than willing to disclose my info to the authorities and they could have even acquired it themselves from the domain name for which I paid by credit card for example.

Aren't you a ray of sunshine on a cloudy day.:cool:

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Aren't you a ray of sunshine on a cloudy day.:cool:

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Lol, sec, you miserable bastards.

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MTGox?

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MTGox?

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MtGox would imply that I lost the funds in the accounts of my customers, not the investments, please re-read 1 to 11 and let that sink in.

Maybe this?

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Quoting Bitcoin Source

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Another Bitcoin casino scam worth mentioning is the one of CasinoBit.Net; which has stolen 386 BTC ($75,000 at time of writing) from both investors and players. The CasinoBit.Net gambling/investment thread on the Bitcointalk forums promised an easy way for investors to triple their Bitcoin. The “investment” scam was exposed as a Ponzi scheme by one of its early investors, but not until after the operator, Max Tsarenko, had made off with the investors’ bitcoins.

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ROFLMAO, If it is him, how pathetic that he thinks he is a Wunderkind, yet only managed to steal about $75k. I could do that leaving the bar drunk on a Saturday night.

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ROFLMAO, If it is him, how pathetic that he thinks he is a Wunderkind, yet only managed to steal about $75k. I could do that leaving the bar drunk on a Saturday night.

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First of all 386 would mean 250,900$ by todays prices you goof, second of all I'm not even into Bitcoin let alone operate illegal casino businesses which would be illegal in Russia.

Not repaying my investors would then be the least of my worries, one could report me to the local authorities and land me in jail.

The whole concept of crypto is rather silly to me, I rather do proper business.

Apparently, by your own admission, not very well.

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First of all 386 would mean 250,900$ by todays prices you goof, second of all I'm not even into Bitcoin let alone operate illegal casino businesses which would be illegal in Russia.

Not repaying my investors would then be the least of my worries, one could report me to the local authorities and land me in jail.

The whole concept of crypto is rather silly to me, I rather do proper business.

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Apparently, by your own admission, not very well.

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I have heard about Bitcoin like anyone else who hasn't lived under a rock, would I invest into it? No, I would rather buy Gold not a ponzi.