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  • 06-17-2014, 05:16 PM
    free9man
    Re: Pregnant Teen Needs to Get Emancipated
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    goats don't mutter. In fact I have an app on my phone where they are yelling or screaming.

    Goats you say? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcSyvxcu5Pc
  • 06-17-2014, 05:18 PM
    secxi-kitty
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    Only if mom and dad consent to marriage, and your mystery state allows minors to be wed at all. You can go through a sham and pretend to be married, but, it won't be legal nor confer any rights unless you follow the law of your unknown state.

    We are going to gerogia to marry, since I'm pregnant I don't need consent. As soon as I cross state lines I'm protected by their state laws. I guess I don't need to apply for emancipation since marriage will do that

    Thanks for nothing guys. Very unhelpful and judgemental
  • 06-17-2014, 05:22 PM
    Dogmatique
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    We are going to gerogia to marry, since I'm pregnant I don't need consent. As soon as I cross state lines I'm protected by their state laws. I guess I don't need to apply for emancipation since marriage will do that

    Thanks for nothing guys. Very unhelpful and judgemental



    ROFL. Funniest thing I've read all day.

    Just remember where we are when you come back whining that he isn't paying child support.
  • 06-17-2014, 05:22 PM
    free9man
    Re: Pregnant Teen Needs to Get Emancipated
    There is more to it than just being pregnant kiddo.
  • 06-17-2014, 05:24 PM
    Disagreeable
    Re: Pregnant Teen Needs to Get Emancipated
    Well princess, there are only 2 apparent problems with your plan. The first is you are not 18 and the second is your ummmmm baby daddy will likely be charged with violating the Mann Act for taking you there.

    http://www.georgiacourts.org/courts/.../marriage.shtm
  • 06-17-2014, 05:26 PM
    cbg
    Re: Pregnant Teen Needs to Get Emancipated
    I'm not as sure as you are that Georgia will jump at the chance to perform a marriage for a pregnant, non-resident teen who is seeking to avoid her own state's laws. The days when you can cross state lines and marry at the drop of a hat are long since gone.

    But, since you know it all and have all the answers to everything, carry on.
  • 06-17-2014, 05:26 PM
    secxi-kitty
    Re: Pregnant Teen Needs to Get Emancipated
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    Don't know where you got that info. You can't get married in Georgia without parental consent if you are under 18.

    I just found out I can with a doctors note confirming I'm pregnant and I'm 16. No consent needed. Sounds like you need to do more research :)
  • 06-17-2014, 05:28 PM
    cbg
    Re: Pregnant Teen Needs to Get Emancipated
    As I said, you know it all and have all the answers. So please, by all means, go forth and...well, please don't multiply any more. The taxpayers are not interesting in paying for kids they didn't get the fun of making.
  • 06-17-2014, 05:30 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: Pregnant Teen Needs to Get Emancipated
    Alright, she's a pain in the ass, but we still have to give the correct information.

    1. George does not require residency
    2. Being pregnant does actually negate the need for consent (be it the parents' or the court's)
    3. She also doesn't have to be 18.

    Much as we collectively think it's a massive mistake, she's actually got some of the stuff right.

    http://www.georgiacourts.org/courts/.../marriage.shtm
  • 06-17-2014, 05:31 PM
    jk
    Re: Pregnant Teen Needs to Get Emancipated
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    Don't know where you got that info. You can't get married in Georgia without parental consent if you are under 18.


    actually there is an exception for a pregnant woman:

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    (b) In cases where either or both of the applicants have not yet reached the age of 16 years, the underage applicant or applicants must submit evidence in the form of a licensed physician´s certificate that the female is pregnant or evidence that both applicants are parents of a living child born out of wedlock, in which case the parties may be issued a marriage license immediately. The certificate signed by a licensed physician shall be available for inspection by the parents or guardians of either the female or male applicant under this subsection, prior to the destruction of the certificate as provided in this subsection; but the certificate shall not be open to public inspection except on order of a judge of the superior court. After the birth of the child and upon the presentation of the birth certificate of the child to the judge of the probate court and the verification of the accuracy of the birth certificate, the physician´s certificate that the female was pregnant and all records of the certificate under the control of the judge shall be destroyed. For purposes of this subsection, the term 'licensed physician´s certificate' shall include only those certificates signed byphysicians licensed under Chapter 34 of Title 43.


    but there is this





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    The judge of the probate court shall be required, in all cases where parental consent is not required under Code Sections 19-3-2, 19-3-36, and 19-3-37, to notify the parents of any male or female 17 years of age or younger who applies for a marriage license. The parents shall be notified immediately by first-class mail at their last known address. In license applications which require notification of parents under this Code section, the judge shall collect an additional fee of $1.00, which shall be in addition to any other fee authorized by law.
    I bet mom will have a really nice homecoming party for when girlie gets back home.
  • 06-17-2014, 05:31 PM
    secxi-kitty
    Re: Pregnant Teen Needs to Get Emancipated
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    As I said, you know it all and have all the answers. So please, by all means, go forth and...well, please don't multiply any more. The taxpayers are not interesting in paying for kids they didn't get the fun of making.

    So what if I collect welfare??? You got something against helping struggling people out???
  • 06-17-2014, 05:31 PM
    LawResearcherMissy
    Re: Pregnant Teen Needs to Get Emancipated
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    As soon as I cross state lines I'm protected by their state laws.
    No, you aren't. You need to be a legal resident of the state.

    Sledgie, meet idiot child. Idiot child, meet Sledgie.
  • 06-17-2014, 05:33 PM
    free9man
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    I just found out I can with a doctors note confirming I'm pregnant and I'm 16. No consent needed. Sounds like you need to do more research :)

    I've done mine. You need to do some more. The loophole for pregnancy got closed a long time ago.
  • 06-17-2014, 05:34 PM
    Dogmatique
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    I've done mine. You need to do some more. The loophole for pregnancy got closed a long time ago.



    It really didn't. Look again.
  • 06-17-2014, 05:34 PM
    LawResearcherMissy
    Re: Pregnant Teen Needs to Get Emancipated
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    goats don't mutter. In fact I have an app on my phone where they are yelling or screaming.
    The screaming goat is my husband's text alert. It's the only alert I could find that I can hear from anywhere in the house. He will send me a text while he's home just to hear it, because it amuses him so.
  • 06-17-2014, 05:34 PM
    jk
    Re: Pregnant Teen Needs to Get Emancipated
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    Goats you say? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcSyvxcu5Pc

    what the Hell??!!!??!


    somebody was either very bored or they have an unhealthy interest in goats.



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpccpglnNf0

    some of them are obviously faked (but hilarious none the less) but even worse; some of them are SHEEP. It's a sad day when people cannot tell a goat from a sheep.
  • 06-17-2014, 05:35 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: Pregnant Teen Needs to Get Emancipated
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    No, you aren't. You need to be a legal resident of the state.

    Sledgie, meet idiot child. Idiot child, meet Sledgie.


    Georgia does not have a residency requirement. Certain counties might, but the State doesn't.

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    The screaming goat is my husband's text alert. It's the only alert I could find that I can hear from anywhere in the house. He will send me a text while he's home just to hear it, because it amuses him so.



    I can curry a goat... :D
  • 06-17-2014, 05:37 PM
    free9man
    Re: Pregnant Teen Needs to Get Emancipated
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    actually there is an exception for a pregnant woman:

    If you go look at a current copy of the code, that subsection has been removed effective 2006 revision.

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    It really didn't. Look again.

    I've looked. Lots of places. A few still erroneously list that but it isn't on any current database of the OCGA that I could find.
  • 06-17-2014, 05:38 PM
    Dogmatique
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    If you go look at a current copy of the code, that subsection has been removed effective 2006 revision.

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    I've looked. Lots of places. A few still erroneously list that but it isn't on any current database of the OCGA that I could find.


    Seems odd that the State itself would list it, non?

    http://www.georgiacourts.org/courts/.../marriage.shtm
  • 06-17-2014, 05:38 PM
    cbg
    Re: Pregnant Teen Needs to Get Emancipated
    You do realize that if you need assistance from the taxpayers, or even your family, to get by financially, that means you do NOT qualify for any form of emancipation, right?
  • 06-17-2014, 05:39 PM
    Dogmatique
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    If you go look at a current copy of the code, that subsection has been removed effective 2006 revision.

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    I've looked. Lots of places. A few still erroneously list that but it isn't on any current database of the OCGA that I could find.

    Dude I just gave you the Gub'mint's link up there ^^^^
  • 06-17-2014, 05:41 PM
    jk
    Re: Pregnant Teen Needs to Get Emancipated
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    If you go look at a current copy of the code, that subsection has been removed effective 2006 revision.

    sho' 'nuff





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    (b) If either applicant for marriage is 16 or 17 years of age, parental consent as provided in Code Section 19-3-37 shall be required.
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    Dude I just gave you the Gub'mint's link up there ^^^^

    it is not in the current law. that site obviously requires some updating.
  • 06-17-2014, 05:42 PM
    LawResearcherMissy
    Re: Pregnant Teen Needs to Get Emancipated
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    Alright, she's a pain in the ass
    She's also lying out of her ass.

    Notice how she refused to name her state? She's posting from the Twin Cities area.
  • 06-17-2014, 05:42 PM
    free9man
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    Seems odd that the State itself would list it, non?

    http://www.georgiacourts.org/courts/.../marriage.shtm

    I agree but if you look at the text of the OCGA, that subsection is GONE. No longer exists.

    I can't help that a quasi-government agency doesn't keep their site up to date.
  • 06-17-2014, 05:50 PM
    jk
    Re: Pregnant Teen Needs to Get Emancipated
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    She's also lying out of her ass.

    Notice how she refused to name her state? She's posting from the Twin Cities area.

    if anybody doesn't think this is a troll (the OP, not me), I have some business propositions I would like to present to you. We can start with the land I am willing to sell you. It has wonderful ocean views. It is close to many popular cities in Florida but it has none of the issues those cities have. It is only 40 miles west of Tampa but due to a few minor issues with the property, it is selling for less than half the cost of land in Tampa.
  • 06-17-2014, 06:02 PM
    cdwjava
    Re: Pregnant Teen Needs to Get Emancipated
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    We are going to gerogia to marry, since I'm pregnant I don't need consent. As soon as I cross state lines I'm protected by their state laws. I guess I don't need to apply for emancipation since marriage will do that

    This is NOT true ... not true at all!!

    Even on the off chance that someone will marry you there (and that's assuming that you forge or provide false documents and information to whatever county office you intend to get a license from) it can quickly be annulled and anyone who participated in the sham prosecuted.

    And your boyfriend might want to look up the "Mann Act" online and find out why he could be guilty of a federal offense if he does this!

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    Thanks for nothing guys. Very unhelpful and judgemental
    Sorry if the law gets in the way of your wishful thinking.

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    if anybody doesn't think this is a troll (the OP, not me), I have some business propositions I would like to present to you. We can start with the land I am willing to sell you. It has wonderful ocean views. It is close to many popular cities in Florida but it has none of the issues those cities have. It is only 40 miles west of Tampa but due to a few minor issues with the property, it is selling for less than half the cost of land in Tampa.

    There were far too many hotbuttons pushed to think this was real ... as I said at the start. The OP was either a true moron and a nightmare walking, or, as I still suspect, a troll - and we've been punked.

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    She's BAAACK ...

    http://www.expertlaw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175376
  • 06-17-2014, 06:11 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: Pregnant Teen Needs to Get Emancipated
    There is this:

    http://www.emanuelprobate.com/upload...GE_LICENSE.pdf (yes, it's a nasty old attorney site), but that mentions ONLY that the "pregnancy" law is no longer in place for teens UNDER the age of 16.

    Quote:

    (House Bill 847, Code Section 19-3-37,..law changed July 1,
    2006........bride can no longer marry under the age of 16 because
    she is pregnant).
    Now. Who has the bit saying it's no longer the way?

    Again from this, it appears to relate ONLY to minors under the age of 16.

    http://facstaff.gpc.edu/~wbroadwe/gamarriage.htm

    Help please?

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    I agree but if you look at the text of the OCGA, that subsection is GONE. No longer exists.

    I can't help that a quasi-government agency doesn't keep their site up to date.


    In that case, don't we all owe the OP an apology for telling her "laws" that may or may not actually be true?

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    Imma go get my good friend who lives in Georgia.

    (OCD? moi?! nu uh! )

    :D
  • 06-17-2014, 06:18 PM
    jk
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    Help please?


    this is from lexis nexus which is where the official georgia site sends you to when you click on code on the GA website:

    http://www.legis.ga.gov/en-US/default.aspx

    http://www.lexisnexis.com/hottopics/gacode/Default.asp

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    § 19-3-37. Parental consent to marriage of underage applicants; when necessary; how obtained


    (a) Definitions. As used in this Code section, the term:

    (1) "Guardian" shall be held to include the same relationships between spouses as the relationships described in paragraph (2) of this subsection between parents and means:

    (A) Any person at least five years older than the applicant standing in loco parentis to the applicant for at least two years;

    (B) Any person at least five years older than the applicant with whom the applicant has lived for at least two years and who has or would be allowed to claim the applicant as a dependent for the purposes of a federal dependent income tax deduction;

    (C) Any relative by blood or marriage at least five years older than the applicant and with whom the applicant has lived at least two years, when the whereabouts of the applicant's parents are unknown; or

    (D) A court appointed guardian.

    (2) "Parent" means:

    (A) Both parents if the parents are living together;

    (B) The parent who has legal custody if the parents are divorced, separated, or widowed; or

    (C) Either parent if the parents are living together but one parent is unavailable because of illness or infirmity or because he is not within the boundaries of this state or because physical presence is impossible.

    (b) When parental consent required; how obtained. In cases where the parties applying for a license are 16 or 17 years of age, their ages to be proved to the judge of the probate court as provided in Code Section 19-3-36, the parents or guardians of each underage applicant shall appear in person before the judge and consent to the proposed marriage, provided that if physical presence because of illness or infirmity is impossible, an affidavit by the incapacitated parent or guardian along with an affidavit signed by a licensed attending physician stating that the parent or guardian is physically incapable of being present shall suffice. The licensed attending physician shall include only those physicians licensed under Chapter 34 of Title 43 or under corresponding requirements pertaining to licensed attending physicians in sister states.

    (c) Alternative methods for obtaining parental consent.

    (1) When the parents or guardians of any underage applicants requiring parental consent reside within the state but in a county other than the county where the marriage license is to be issued, it shall not be necessary for the parents or guardians to appear in person before the judge of the probate court of the latter county and consent to the proposed marriage, if the parents or guardians appear in person and consent to the proposed marriage before the judge of the county in which they reside.

    (2) Where the parents or guardians of any underage applicants requiring parental consent reside outside the state, it shall not be necessary for the parents or guardians to appear in person before the judge of the probate court and consent to the proposed marriage, if the parents or guardians appear in person before the judicial authority of their county who is authorized to issue marriage licenses and consent to the proposed marriage before the judicial authority. If the parents or guardians are physically incapable of being present because of illness or infirmity, the illness or infirmity may be attested to by an attending physician licensed in such state, as is provided for in subsection (a) of this Code section.

    (3) Where the alternate provisions for parental consent are utilized under paragraph (1) or (2) of this subsection, the parents or guardians shall obtain a certificate from the judge of the probate court or the proper judicial officer before whom they have appeared with the seal and title of the official appearing thereon, the certificate containing information to the effect that the parents or guardians appeared before the judge or judicial officer and consented to the proposed marriage.

    HISTORY: Orig. Code 1863, § 1661; Code 1868, § 1704; Code 1873, § 1705; Code 1882, § 1705; Civil Code 1895, § 2419; Civil Code 1910, § 2938; Ga. L. 1924, p. 53, § 2; Ga. L. 1927, p. 224, § 1; Code 1933, § 53-204; Ga. L. 1965, p. 335, § 4; Ga. L. 1967, p. 31, § 1; Ga. L. 1968, p. 382, § 1; Ga. L. 1972, p. 193, § 5; Ga. L. 1976, p. 1719, § 3; Ga. L. 2006, p. 141, § 6C/HB 847.



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    § 19-3-36. Proof of age of applicants


    The judge of the probate court to whom the application for a marriage license is made shall satisfy himself or herself that the provisions set forth in Code Section 19-3-2 regarding age limitations are met. If the judge does not know of his or her own knowledge the age of a party for whom a marriage license is sought, the judge shall require the applicant to furnish the court with documentary evidence of proof of age in the form of a birth certificate, driver's license, baptismal certificate, certificate of birth registration, selective service card, court record, passport, immigration papers, alien papers, citizenship papers, armed forces discharge papers, armed forces identification card, or hospital admission card containing the full name and date of birth. In the event an applicant does not possess any of the above but appears to the judge to be at least 25 years of age, the applicant, in lieu of furnishing the judge with one of the above, may give an affidavit to the judge stating the applicant's age. Applicants who have satisfactorily proved that they have reached the age of majority may be issued a marriage license immediately.

    HISTORY: Orig. Code 1863, § 1661; Code 1868, § 1704; Code 1873, § 1705; Code 1882, § 1705; Civil Code 1895, § 2419; Civil Code 1910, § 2938; Ga. L. 1924, p. 53, § 2; Ga. L. 1927, p. 224, § 1; Code 1933, § 53-206; Ga. L. 1965, p. 335, § 6; Ga. L. 1972, p. 193, § 6; Ga. L. 1975, p. 1298, § 1; Ga. L. 1976, p. 1719, § 4; Ga. L. 1979, p. 872, § 2; Ga. L. 2006, p. 141, § 6B/HB847
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    § 19-3-2. Who may contract marriage; parental consent


    (a) To be able to contract marriage, a person must:

    (1) Be of sound mind;

    (2) Except as provided in subsection (b) of this Code section, be at least 18 years of age;

    (3) Have no living spouse of a previous undissolved marriage. The dissolution of a previous marriage in divorce proceedings must be affirmatively established and will not be presumed. Nothing in this paragraph shall be construed to affect the legitimacy of children; and

    (4) Not be related to the prospective spouse by blood or marriage within the prohibited degrees.

    (b) If either applicant for marriage is 16 or 17 years of age, parental consent as provided in Code Section 19-3-37 shall be required.

    HISTORY: Orig. Code 1863, § 1654; Code 1868, § 1698; Code 1873, § 1699; Code 1882, § 1699; Civil Code 1895, § 2412; Civil Code 1910, § 2931; Code 1933, § 53-102; Ga. L. 1957, p. 83, § 1; Ga. L. 1962, p. 138, § 1; Ga. L. 1963, p. 485, § 1; Ga. L. 1965, p. 335, § 1; Ga. L. 1965, p. 500, § 1; Ga. L. 1976, p. 1719, § 1; Ga. L. 1979, p. 872, § 1; Ga. L. 1999, p. 81, § 19; Ga. L. 2006, p. 141, § 6A/HB 847.



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    There is this:

    http://www.emanuelprobate.com/upload...GE_LICENSE.pdf (yes, it's a nasty old attorney site), but that mentions ONLY that the "pregnancy" law is no longer in place for teens UNDER the age of 16.



    Now. Who has the bit saying it's no longer the way?

    Again from this, it appears to relate ONLY to minors under the age of 16.

    http://facstaff.gpc.edu/~wbroadwe/gamarriage.htm

    Help please?

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    :D

    this is from your second link:


    Quote:

    The minimum age for marriage is 16 years for males and females with parental consent; after age 18, parental consent is not required). The parent or guardian must appear in person and give consent if the bride or groom is 16 or 17. In 2006, the state legislature eliminated the loophole in state law that allowed couples of any age to get married without parental consent in the case of pregnancy. This change was the result of the case of a 37 year-old woman who married a 15 year-old boy after she became pregnant. Despite her marriage, she was still sentenced to 9 months in jail for statutory rape.
    eliminated the loophole for couples of any age to get married due to pregnancy.
  • 06-17-2014, 06:34 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: Pregnant Teen Needs to Get Emancipated
    JK, I think I love you.

    Now...I'm not done yet, because I'm that sort of twit.

    But I will sincerely apologize to everyone for insisting that something is correct when, in fact, it may not be.

    Don't go away though - because my OCD button hasn't switched off yet.
  • 06-17-2014, 06:45 PM
    cbg
    Re: Pregnant Teen Needs to Get Emancipated
    Approximately half the websites I'm finding still quote the pregnancy exception. The other half say that exception was overturned in 2006.

    But even if it's still in play, that doesn't mean it's available to a non-resident.
  • 06-17-2014, 06:48 PM
    seccxi-kitty
    Re: Pregnant Teen Needs to Get Emancipated
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    You do realize that if you need assistance from the taxpayers, or even your family, to get by financially, that means you do NOT qualify for any form of emancipation, right?

    I will get married and apply because after I'll be married I'll be emancipated, nice try
  • 06-17-2014, 06:51 PM
    cdwjava
    Re: Pregnant Teen Needs to Get Emancipated
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    I will get married and apply because after I'll be married I'll be emancipated, nice try

    But, under the law in GA, it appears you cannot get married!

    Not to mention the issues of being a runaway, a dependent minor, and crossing state lines for illicit purposes that could land baby-daddy in a federal pen.
  • 06-17-2014, 06:56 PM
    seccxi-kitty
    Re: Pregnant Teen Needs to Get Emancipated
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    But, under the law in GA, it appears you cannot get married!

    Not to mention the issues of being a runaway, a dependent minor, and crossing state lines for illicit purposes that could land baby-daddy in a federal pen.

    A lawyer said he will make sure he won't go
  • 06-17-2014, 06:58 PM
    Mr. Knowitall
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    A lawyer said he will make sure he won't go

    The "it" that you're full of is oozing out of your ears.
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