What to Do if You're an Inadvertent Participant in Check Fraud

The credibility of the US? You ARE kidding, aren't you?

You get screwed over, screw the bank in return, and it's somehow the US's fault?!

It's the US's fault that you didn't practice due diligence? It's the US's fault that you didn't cotton on to what is perhaps the most widely known scam EVER?

Huh.

Well I was in Canada for 7 years and never heard of it there.
And it is the governments duty to ensure equal justice.
But this isnt a political blog, its a legal advice forum.
Thank you for your point of view dogmatique

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Quoting RaymondMichael

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I checked it out. It was a gmbh in germany. I didnt find an official website but did find some company profiles. From what I understand these types of companies arent publically traded. Also I believed it to be an e

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so what reputable company is going to send you checks to cash for them and wire the money back to them and pay you to do it? Why don't they just deposit into their bank?

that is one reason I never understood how people fall for such scams. They don't make any sense at all yet people keep falling for the same scam.



as far as paying it back; you can only pay it back as fast as you can. If that isn;t fast enough for the courts, they might decide sitting in jail might make you reconsider your priorities because you aren't earning anything to support your family while in jail.

I would suspect a few months to pay is not going to be an issue. It is something you would have to work out with the court.

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Quoting RaymondMichael

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Well I was in Canada for 7 years and never heard of it there.
And it is the governments duty to ensure equal justice.
But this isnt a political blog, its a legal advice forum.
Thank you for your point of view dogmatique

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For what it's worth, I'm not American ;)

But you raised the issue, so let me just say this.

No, it's not the government's job to ensure equal justice. "right" justice? Yes. But fair or equal? Not at all. There is always going to be an unhappy party in any court case - the only issue here, is that it's you and not the bank.

I'm fairly certain the bank shares your feeling.

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Quoting RaymondMichael

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I checked it out. It was a gmbh in germany. I didnt find an official website but did find some company profiles. From what I understand these types of companies arent publically traded. Also I believed it to be an entrepreneurial type company that started ul and was looking to sell.... I didnt think anything of it because businesses these days have so few limits to how they can look, especially webbased companies...
In any case I dont see how a country that prides itslf on so many publically marketed ideals could choose to reject an honest mans offer to pay the money in parts and prefer to put him in jail for 3 months... in those 3 months I would have enough time to pay . Ot back I believe.
What would that say about the credibility of the U.S.?
And to think I wanted to bring my family with me to the U.S....

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Thanks jk

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This has nothing to do with the country.

Since you were obviously scammed by a con game that nobody in their right mind should be scammed by these days, I'll try to use simple language so that you understand what's happening to you.

All the people at the bank care about is that you cashed the checks and walked out of the bank with the money and then the checks that YOU cashed turned out to be bogus.

Do you understand the reason I emphasized YOU?

I hope so.

Now you owe the bank the money. Period. Nobody else, just you.

At the moment, the bank wants its money and is not interested in putting you in jail yet if it gets the money.

But if you don't pay, the bank has the option of reporting you to the authorities who will issue a warrant for your arrest and you'll be picked up as soon as you re-enter the US, whenever that will be.

Now here's something else you need to understand.

Being willing to pay is not paying.

Talking about paying is not paying.

Paying is paying. So I suggest you scrape up some cash as best you can, even if it's not the full amount, and send the money ASAP with a letter saying that you'll pay the balance. You don't have to return to the US to do that and as long as you keep sending money frequently, you'll probably avoid criminal prosecution.

Bottom line, this is nobody's fault but your own so stop whining about the evils of the world and start looking for money to send to the bank.

This was a really bad thing to do before you decided to commit immigration fraud, which it appears was next in the plan.

Well said adjusterjack. Lets hope so :)

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This was a really bad thing to do before you decided to commit immigration fraud, which it appears was next in the plan.

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It's not impossible that it was easier for him to work (legally) before bringing the fiancee and kids back on the correct visas.

Bringing them over wasnt exactly a plan but an idea, nevertheless with this I will have to probably reconsider because the visa petitions are expensive.
anyways thank you for your insights

OK now I'm confused.

Do you intend to reside in the US, or Canada?