Seventeen-Year-Old Wants to Get Emancipated in Texas

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Quoting Foxxfrost

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Let's put it straight like this. My fathers a pervert, my parents are alcoholics, they're extremely verbally abusive and they refuse to help me with medical needs before i get an infection in my jaw or the several other medical problems with my "woman organs". My siblings can't help because they're all in their own tight places.

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Really.

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As i said, if going off of low income isn't included, i WILL go back to georgia and get a fully paid apartment, for the SAME price as i would in low income HERE. I can qualify for a fully paid appartment there and still have a bit over a thousand left by the end of the month.

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You're not reading hon.

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Food is easily rationed, i don't need cake and junk and fast food, in fact those things make me sick to my stomach because i have serious acid reflux which is going untreated because of my parents, i have no way to a doctor.

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Another strike against you. "Rationing your food" = you cannot afford to support yourself. If you do this as an adult, yes - it wouldn't be an issue. But you're not, and the law tends to want to protect minors from themselves.

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I have plenty of clothes, i don't need high end fashion and all these crazy accesories, i don't wear jewlery, and i wear maybe 13 dollars worth of makeup that lsts me about 6 months.
I've had the same shoes for a year because i don't care if they're dirty. I have converse because of the type of feet i have and because they are very durable and if they get dirty, it really doesn't matter cause it wipes off.

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Do you realize how this comes across?

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I don't need high expenses.
Where i would preferably live, all i have to pay for is my phone bill, which will only be 50 a month because i don't like phone contracts, internet, and electric.
I don't watch cable, and i don't need any other bills to pay because they give gas and water free in most appartments there.
I would be making more than 3 times the rent to live in an appartment there for a 1 bedroom.

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I don't think you're actually understanding this.

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I'm not getting a gas guzzler for a car and i don't have much social life so i wont be driving it unless it's for work or every couple weeks i go to the grocery store. Unless the clothes are for extremely special occasion and i need to see the fit, i buy everything else online other than food.

It's not hard for me to manage money, i'm actually quite smart with it and i try to get my mom to understand but she wont, she wastes money she doesn't have.
So as far as paying things? i'm pretty sure i have that settled.

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No, you don't. Do you really want me to fish out the average bills in X city? Let me know. I have no problem doing that for you.

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Bout 500 in rent maybe, and everything else to bills and necesities and still have around 1-200 to just save or spend.
I'll have a full time generalmanagement job in a week, and i can get a transfer.
I'll get over 1k a month from that job, and i might get a part time one on the side, and there's a possibility of me getting a roommate later down the line.
I am prepared to pay the "going rate"

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$1000/month is not going to convince a court. Sorry.

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But guess what? austin is OUTRAGEOUS on rent. We are paying the same price for the smallest single wide trailer than we did for a 3 story house with a basement and attic, with an in-ground pool and a huge yard, in georgia.
I don't /need/ the hud housing, but it is nice if i can get it so that i can be here for a bit longer to get money saved up before i take off from the state to a new job.
There is one appartment in the area that has a reasonable rent, the rest is about 1k for a one bedroom apartment with no appliances or utility payed.

And health insurance? i get it from my job.

I'm not a random kid deciding "i don't like my parents, i want to leave even though i only make minimum wage and i'm too spoiled to not waste my money on 30 pairs of earrings and 90 dollar shoes every month"

I don't need anything like that. Food, clothes that fit, shoes to walk in.
I can walk to work, I'm not lazy, and when i get a car, it's still not that bad.
So i'm sorry to sound incredibly rude right now, but really, so do you.
I KNOW it's not easy. i KNOW it's a challenge. But one year only makes the difference of less stress and pain coming from my parents and less risk.
Introduce me to another "teenage kid" who has been offered management jobs at several jobs, and is getting one in less than two months of working somewhere, instead of all the other m.i.t's they already have trained.
Introduce me to a kid that has a fully level head dealing with finance, business, and expense.
The only way i am immature is i do joke around, everyone does. And i do get angry. But everyone does. But i'm not going to cry and throw a fit because i can't have shoes with diamonds on them. All my clothes were either bought second hand, were gifts, or they were from my elder siblings. I'm a child of 6, and i'm the only one that's trying to get myself together. After all of my older siblings realized how much worse my parents got, they all wished that they could help me, but they can't. So i'm helping myself. It is NOT a want. I don't really want to grow up yet because my last few years have SPED by. I never got to have a teenage life. Ever. I've never partied and hung out at the mall or gone to the movies with friends, i don't have friends in my phone, they're all family members and work. I've been in relationships, but usually i find out the person isn't worth a breath of air. I can't be social with people my age because it's awkward, i don't find humor in what they do, ever since i was in elementary school, teachers and counselors and such were my friends, i'd sit after school and just talk to them all the time, and draw for them. I'm a wonderful student and a great worker. This isn't something to take lightly, and it's really bothering me that all you guys are doing is shooting it down because i'm not ONE YEAR older.
A year is literally nothing as far as maturity goes. I feel no different than i did a year ago, or the year before that. 4 years feels like 1. But a lot does happen, and that's why i know i need to get out as soon as possible before i regret not taking the chance to.
You think i want to live by myself and be lonely outside of work and the one friend i do talk to? No, i don't, but it's better than dealing with what i do. It's way to personal and home related to just spill all over the internet, so i don't expect you to understand.


So please, if anyone is going to reply to this thread anymore, i'm done listening to people bash it down, just tell me what papers i may need, some resources that could help, and what/whom i should contact. That's why i made this thread. Not to get told i'm just a bratty kid with no sense in my brain just because a number is one less.

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If i didn't think i could do it, i wouldn't waste my time asking people and defending myself because people think it's impossible for someone to take care of them self ONE YEAR before they would HAVE to anyways. I'm getting a head start because i NEED to leave this house. Like i said, too personal, i just need resources and answers, not flame wars and a waste of time.

And if the judge rejects it, they reject it, but i'm going to try anyways because it is what i need and i know that i can do this.

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Let me try please.

YOU DO NOT QUALIFY FOR EMANCIPATION.

Have you not read any other threads here?

Not one?

If you want people not to treat you like a spoiled child, don't behave as one.

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Out of interest, when do you turn 18?

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Quoting Foxxfrost

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So please, if anyone is going to reply to this thread anymore, i'm done listening to people bash it down, just tell me what papers i may need, some resources that could help, and what/whom i should contact. That's why i made this thread. Not to get told i'm just a bratty kid with no sense in my brain just because a number is one less.

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then go back and read what you bookmarked. There is most of the information you need right there. Then contact the court clerk and ask for the proper form to file.


the rest is up to you.



when you say your father is a pervert, depending on what you mean by that, consider contacting child protective services or the police if applicable.

as to your health issues; child protective services

your parents are obligated to provide for you and if you are in need of medical treatment they are not providing, they are lacking.

If you are making that kind of money now why don't you take yourself to the doctor and/or dentist? If your work currently provides you with insurance then use the money you are making and get a cab/taxi/bus/friend to the doctor/dentist. You whining about not being allowed to go and not taking yourself to these places shows your immaturity. This is what the judge will look at. And then s/he will look at WHY you want emancipated. Because your homelife stinks is not going to cut it.

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Quoting Disagreeable

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You can run away at 17 in TX. As long as you provide your own shelter and work, provide the local police and your parents with your where abouts, they cannot drag you home.

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Although Texas juvenile courts don't have jurisdiction over a seventeen-year-old, so as to treat running away from home as a status offense, there is nothing in Texas law that would prevent a parent of a seventeen-year-old from dragging a runaway, kicking and screaming, back home.

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Quoting Disagreeable

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Bringing a boyfriend or other person into the picture can bring harboring charges or worse.

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The Texas statute governing harboring a runaway, Penal Code, Sec. 25.06 (which covers all minors under the age of 18), offers defenses to harboring a runaway that you know to be "absent from the child's home without the consent of the child's parent or guardian for a substantial length of time or without the intent to return" -- within 24 hours of learning that the minor is a runaway, reporting the location of the runaway minor to the person or agency from which a child escaped or, if that's not applicable, notifying a person at the child's home of the child's location, or making a report within that time frame to a law enforcement agency.

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Quoting Foxxfrost

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That's where that law drops. You can run away, but you'll end up coming back because you'll have no where to stay.

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Even if you are emancipated, a landlord may decline to enter into a lease with you before you reach the age of majority. But if you manage to put together a petition for emancipation, you'll presumably have already located a landlord who is willing to rent to you such that you can document that fact to the court.

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Quoting Foxxfrost

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All i'm asking for is what procedures i have to go through and what papers i need.

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Procedure and the content of a petition for emancipation are outlined in the statute and link, previously provided.

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Quoting Foxxfrost

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Also, no where does it say i can't have help through low income housing, it simply says i can't ask for help from my parents.

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As a dependent minor, you're not eligible for low-income housing. You can't apply for a housing subsidy until you're independent. Also, the demand for subsidized housing typically significantly outstrips its availability. In most parts of the country, even if you were to petition for subsidized housing the minute a court granted an emancipation petition, odds are you'll be 18 before a space opens up. The Court needs to know that you're capable of actually supporting yourself, not that you can theoretically support yourselt at a future date if and when you obtain a housing subsidy.

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Quoting Foxxfrost

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As i said, if going off of low income isn't included, i WILL go back to georgia and get a fully paid apartment, for the SAME price as i would in low income HERE. I can qualify for a fully paid appartment there and still have a bit over a thousand left by the end of the month.

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Except that "plan" involves your quitting your job in Texas, and thus having neither housing nor a source of income to support yourself. When you petition for emancipation, you need to establish to the satisfaction of the court not only that you're capable of supporting yourself, but that you're already "self-supporting and managing [your] own financial affairs"

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Quoting Foxxfrost

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I'll have a full time general management job in a week, and i can get a transfer.

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You mean, when you file your petition? When evaluating your present capacity, Court won't care about mere promises to get a future job, future promotion, or future transfer.

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Quoting Foxxfrost

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And health insurance? i get it from my job.

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You have a job. You have income. You have your own health insurance. Yet you're complaining that it's your parents' fault that you're not obtaining timely medical care for your health issues? While acknowledging parental duty of support and to provide the necessities of life, how does it show a court that you're self-supporting and managing your own financial affairs when you choose not to avail yourself of your own insurance to obtain medical treatment you state that you need?

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Quoting jk

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then go back and read what you bookmarked. There is most of the information you need right there. Then contact the court clerk and ask for the proper form to file.

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I very much doubt that the clerk can offer a standard form petition, but there's no harm in asking.

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Quoting Mr. Knowitall

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I very much doubt that the clerk can offer a standard form petition, but there's no harm in asking.

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that was kind of a kiss off since the OP wanted to complain about everything. Most of what she needs is in the statute. After that, since she wants to argue how mature she is, I am sure she can figure it out.

When i say rationing, it means not buying junk and still eating the proper ammount and eating healthy. Means not buying cereal and cake or microwave burritos because it's more expensive than to just make days worth by hand, which tastes better and is much healthier anyways, i can't stand food that isn't made by hand, it almost always tastes like exactly what it is, junk, and upsets my stomach because of all the preservatives they put in them.
So what if i don't buy an 80 dollar shirt and don't buy new shoes every month? that doesn't make me look any kind of way, my clothes are still in great condition cause i take care of them, people can't even tell, i just don't accessories, other than vests, i love vests, they're comfortable.
I can't use my health insurance because at this point, if i spend my money, my mom gets mad if it's not being spent on someone else in the family, and she says i'm selfish. She eats up everyone's money that ever lives with her. They've both already threatened to kick me out for several reasons and i don't know anyone here other than co workers because i've only lived here for 6 months. I'd be on the streets like a stray dog. I wouldn't be able to even keep my job because i'd be dirty and my clothes wouldn't get washed cause i wouldn't have access to dryers/washers or showers.
And i don't have legal control over my medical, if she doesn't want me doing something, she can stop it quick as a lick. And i don't have transportation there, i live on a highway, a big one, and the nearest doctor is a 4 hour walk. Don't trust taxi's, especially not here.
And about the housing.
Georgia. Georgia. Georgia. I do not need subsidized housing in georgia because i make more than 3 times the average rent for an appartment there, and half the utilities are already payed in most places. That wouldn't require me quitting my job, it's called getting a job transfer. I've already spoken this over with my supervisor's boss. I can have my position transferred to another store in georgia and until they have a store that needs general management, i'll be an m.i.t, and they make the same income.
So just stop bringing up the subsidized housing because now that i know it's not an option, i wont be staying here and i wont need it, at all.
And it's not a "promise to a future promotion" the only reason it's not there yet is because i have to finish an online training course, which i actually just finished yesterday, i just have to turn in my resume, and i have the promotion, and by the time i go to fill out the papers, i'll have had it for a while.
So again. Stop. You're the one here that isn't listening, and assuming i'm the one that's not, just cause you're a great mighty adult who assumes character and charge over an age.

Jk, i'm not trying to argue, i've said to stop several times. Put in bold big print to stop responding if you're not helping.
And you're not either.
So i'm done. I should have seriously known better as to trust in the internet to be the worst possible place to get anything done.
Bottom line; don't need subsidized, not asking for it anymore, and i know places that would rent me a place.
Can't get to the doctor because i'm not allowed to spend my money and i don't have medical control over myself, so anything more than a check up more than likely wont be done without my parent's signature, or atleast as far as i've been told my whole life, that's how it works in most places. Don't know anyone to take me and it's 4 hours away of a walk on a HIGHWAY. And i'm never in my life getting in a taxi in this state, there is too much rape and kidnapping, and that's seriously just getting in a strangers car and paying them to take you somewhere cause they have paint jobs on their car.
Any young girl that gets in a taxi by herself is just mindless.
When i say rationing i mean that i'm not going to waste the money on cake and chips and useless things, and i'm not buying premade food. I can cook, it tastes better, it's healthier, and can usually can make a few meals, and if i like something, i want a few meals out of it. That's "rationing" to me. Pay 15 bucks to make enough healthy food for a family instead of 10 bucks for say.. a box of hot pockets. So i guess not rationing, more of being smart and not wasting money.
And clothes? so what? i don't care if people disagree with the fact that my shoes get dirty. I wear them till they're TOO dirty or they're ruined. My shoes still look like i've only had them for a few months, look almost brand new when i clean them off. All my clothes are in good condition and they look nice, i just don't look like i'm trying to be a model walking down the street like it's a runway show. I take care of my things.
None of that is wrong, at all. It's called not wasting money. It's highly immature and irresponsible to waste money, so i'm not sure why that's so bad to you that i don't buy 80 dollar shirts and 150 dollar shoes every few months.

So please just stop. The reason i'm still asking is because even though the stature is the law layed out, the sentences are so proper that they sound broken, and they're so flatly placed that it doesn't help as much as you think it does. It just says "a minor can do this when they get emancipated depending on this or this given they can prove a b and c."
That doesn't really say hey where should i go find these documents, what documents do i need to bring with me besides the obvious identification, who is best to talk to about this, and how long does it usually take to go through.

So PLEASE for the love of mercy, stop trying to bash me down and argue. I'm not dealing with it, i'm trying to get answers not "you can't, do this and shut up" That's not the purpose of this thread otherwise i would have said "should i get emancipated?" not "what do i need to do to get it?"
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Anything else said that doesn't help, i'm ignoring, i'm not going to argue with "grown adults" because they think they're big shots and that i'm mindless and stupid because i'm a year from being a legal adult. One year doesn't give you some amazing realization in your head.

Answers, or don't bother cause you're wasting your time, and mine.

You've been given the answer. More than once.

If you're unable to see it, that's not our fault.

Again, you don't get emancipated based upon a fantasy of moving to another state, finding a cheap apartment and getting a job. To get emancipated you must prove that you are already self-sufficient and managing your own financial affairs, right there in Texas.

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Jk, i'm not trying to argue, i've said to stop several times. Put in bold big print to stop responding if you're not helping.
And you're not either.

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so providing you with the specific statute, that you bookmarked no less, was no help? Gee, I always figured the controlling law would allow a person, a mature person, to use that as a basis for their research into whatever they are attempting to do.


Color me dumbfounded.

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Quoting Foxxfrost

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Thank you, i'm keeping that saved, i'm horrible at searching through the..ordinances? I believe thats the correct term. Any more information, if anyone has it, is greatly appreciated

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Statutes, but close enough :D

However, being a grown up also means doing the work on your own. So, now is the time when you start trying to find stuff on your own. You were given where to look, now go look.

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Let's put it straight like this. My fathers a pervert, my parents are alcoholics, they're extremely verbally abusive and they refuse to help me with medical needs before i get an infection in my jaw or the several other medical problems with my "woman organs". My siblings can't help because they're all in their own tight places.

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At 17, you're medically emancipated so why haven't you just walked into a dental clinic to get some assistance for your tooth or a clinic to get some help with your girlie parts? Any hospital, dental school or free clinic will have seen you. If you're choosing to sit in pain, then that's YOUR choice. How many issues with your "woman organs" are you having at 17 and why are you having them? Are you sexually active?

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As i said, if going off of low income isn't included, i WILL go back to georgia and get a fully paid apartment, for the SAME price as i would in low income HERE. I can qualify for a fully paid appartment there and still have a bit over a thousand left by the end of the month.

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Where in GA do you think you're going to go where you're going to be able to live independently on your own and get a job? Do you know what the unemployment rates are in GA? The heat in TX sucks? It's currently 85 degrees with 60% humidity in GA. That's MILD.

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Food is easily rationed, i don't need cake and junk and fast food, in fact those things make me sick to my stomach because i have serious acid reflux which is going untreated because of my parents, i have no way to a doctor.

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Almost every popular reflux medication is available OTC. You're suffering? Again, your problem

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I have plenty of clothes, i don't need high end fashion and all these crazy accesories, i don't wear jewlery, and i wear maybe 13 dollars worth of makeup that lsts me about 6 months.

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You really should change out your makeup more often. It's going to cause an infection and that's going to be someone else's fault too.

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I've had the same shoes for a year because i don't care if they're dirty. I have converse because of the type of feet i have and because they are very durable and if they get dirty, it really doesn't matter cause it wipes off.

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Ummm...ok. I can't argue with bad fashion.

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I don't need high expenses.

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No one NEEDS high expenses. High expenses just happen.

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Where i would preferably live, all i have to pay for is my phone bill, which will only be 50 a month because i don't like phone contracts, internet, and electric.

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You don't like phone contracts? Good, you likely have no credit to get one anyway.
You don't like internet? Aren't you on the internet now?
You don't like electric? You're not going to have electricity in your house? That's gonna get mighty dark and considering where I live IN GEORGIA, there is no natural gas, EVERYTHING in my house THAT I OWN is electric. The stove, the refrigerator, the central air/heat, the televisions, the lights, the washer and dryer, even the WATER HEATER. Lemme guess, you don't need hot water, either? You don't like it.

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I don't watch cable, and i don't need any other bills to pay because they give gas and water free in most appartments there.

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That's a surprise. Neither myself or my husband who has lived in GA most of his life has ever lived in a place where the water was free and the gas was only free BECAUSE THERE WAS NONE.

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I would be making more than 3 times the rent to live in an appartment there for a 1 bedroom.

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Delusional

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I'm not getting a gas guzzler for a car and i don't have much social life so i wont be driving it unless it's for work or every couple weeks i go to the grocery store. Unless the clothes are for extremely special occasion and i need to see the fit, i buy everything else online other than food.

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No need to look nice any other time...

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I'll get over 1k a month from that job, and i might get a part time one on the side, and there's a possibility of me getting a roommate later down the line.
I am prepared to pay the "going rate"

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1k/mo with a MANAGEMENT position? Management and they're paying you that far under the poverty rate? That doesn't make you sound mature and smart... that makes you sound young and naive.

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But guess what? austin is OUTRAGEOUS on rent. We are paying the same price for the smallest single wide trailer than we did for a 3 story house with a basement and attic, with an in-ground pool and a huge yard, in georgia.

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Where in Austin vs. Where in GA. This ought to be good.

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I don't /need/ the hud housing, but it is nice if i can get it so that i can be here for a bit longer to get money saved up before i take off from the state to a new job.

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You're living like a poor person. You need HUD. People who are living fine don't mention having the government supply any of their needs.

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There is one appartment in the area that has a reasonable rent, the rest is about 1k for a one bedroom apartment with no appliances or utility payed.

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Grown ups buy their own appliances and pay for their utilities. I know, it's hard to believe.

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And health insurance? i get it from my job.

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Hope it's not a high deductible plan because that'll be their fault too. A job that pays 1k/mo doesn't offer stellar benefits.

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I'm not a random kid deciding "i don't like my parents, i want to leave even though i only make minimum wage and i'm too spoiled to not waste my money on 30 pairs of earrings and 90 dollar shoes every month"

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Yes you are


I'm so tired with this. Turn 18 and move. Go do what you want. Just remember that once you close the door, they don't have to open it back up. In fact, I recommend they don't.