Re: Can a Parent Take the Children on an International Vacation After Separation
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Dogmatique
I'm just not seeing the threat.
Unfortunately, we see a lot of this: Parent is fine with other parent right up until divorce papers are filed and then - suddenly - the other parent becomes the Anti-Christ.
We're not even sure it IS a "normal" protection order; in more than a few states there's the ATRO and while it generally refers to putting the finances on hold (and dropping the parent from insurance and whatnot), it's not difficult for the parents to misunderstand it.
I don't disagree with you at all. My problem was the stating that dad could do whatever he wanted and mom could do nothing to stop it without a court order...and then that mom would be giving dad a legal gift if she stopped the travel, again without asking the poster more questions first. There wasn't enough information provided to come to that conclusion. However if mom was very legally naïve, that could be enough for mom to roll over and play dead and end up with her children in another country without the legal means or finances to get them back.
AND...the same thing could apply for a dad in similar circumstances.
Mom hasn't been back...I hope she didn't just accept that answer.
Re: Can a Parent Take the Children on an International Vacation After Separation
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llworking
I just felt that it was a bit irresponsible to lead any parent, be they mother OR father, to believe that in a scenario like this one that they had no choice but to allow the overseas travel or they would be giving a huge legal "gift" to the other parent. In fact, I cannot imagine a judge dinging any parent for withholding the children in order to prevent them from being taken overseas in a situation like this one.
You didn't even pay attention to the original post, in which the OP suggests that the protective order will soon vaporize.
You can keep going on this all you want, but it won't change the fact that you are wrong, and that you're blowing smoke up the OP's skirt. If mom wants to stop the trip, mom needs a court order. If mom wants to take your advice and try to withhold the children from visitation, not only could that effort fail your glib assumption that it won't backfire on mom when the issue goes to court is wholly unfounded. Trying to reinvent the statement into telling mom she can't do anything? Not even close. Seeking a court order is not "doing nothing". Your proposal, on the other hand, would qualify as "doing nothing".
Re: Can a Parent Take the Children on an International Vacation After Separation
I just want to jump in here and say that Costco may have long lines, but they move extremely fast. Sam's Club, on the other hand, move like molasses.
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mmmagique
I just want to jump in here and say that Costco may have long lines, but they move extremely fast. Sam's Club, on the other hand, move like molasses.
Like heck they do.
It's a proven fact that queues at Costco are far lengthier and more time-consuming. I read it on the Interwebz.
And I'm still not seeing where Dad is a flight risk.
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