Re: Red Light Camera Ticket in Santa Clarita, California
In his first post, Droid mentioned that he had heard about ignoring these tickets. For people who, unlike Droid, are not trying to become an officer in the army, here's two ways many California red light cam tickets can be beat:
1. Check to see if it is a Snitch Ticket, the fake/phishing camera tickets California police send out to bluff car owners into ID'ing the actual driver. Snitch Tickets say, at the top, "Courtesy Notice-This is not a ticket," and you can ignore them! Skeptical? Google: Snitch Ticket.
2. Were you in the LA area? Even a REAL red light camera ticket from ANY city (including the LA County sheriff, as with Droid's ticket) in LA County can be ignored, as the LA courts do not report ignored camera tickets to the DMV. This was revealed in LA Times articles in 2011. Skeptical? Google: Red light camera no consequence.
Re: Red Light Camera Ticket in Santa Clarita, California
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Even a REAL red light camera ticket from ANY city (including the LA County sheriff, as with Droid's ticket) in LA County can be ignored, as the LA courts do not report ignored camera tickets to the DMV.
Are you suggesting that the court reporting the matter to the DMV is the only consequence to ignoring a court order to respond to a notice to appear or pay from a court of law?
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This was revealed in LA Times articles in 2011. Skeptical? Google: Red light camera no consequence.
Oh.. The L A Times. and its articles...
You can choose to believe the L A Times, other people may choose to at least consider what is posted on the court's website with regards to the same citations you just stated can be "ignored"...
This is from the Los Angeles County Superior Court website (click HERE):
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Even a REAL red light camera ticket from ANY city (including the LA County sheriff, as with Droid's ticket) in LA County can be ignored, as the LA courts do not report ignored camera tickets to the DMV. This was revealed in LA Times articles in 2011. Skeptical? Google: Red light camera no consequence.
July 29, 2011: The City of Los Angeles has decided to end its red light camera program on July 31, 2011. The City's action does not stop the processing of outstanding red-light citations. It does not eliminate penalties associated with red-light citations. It does not constitute grounds for a refund of any money paid on such a citation. Anyone issued a red-light citation must resolve it within the specified time limits or face certain penalties as prescribed by law.
And here is a blank copy of what a Red Light camera citation looks like...
http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/...psff519cac.jpg
Look inside the blue boxes and you will realize that the you are issued a notice to appear in court BY the court, and when such notice includes language stating you MUST respond, that does not mean you can "ignore" it.
Re: Red Light Camera Ticket in Santa Clarita, California
OK, whom to believe about the ability to ignore camera tickets in LA County?
Yes, it is unprecedented that a court would unilaterally decide to "back burner" cases for a certain type of crime. But I see a higher purpose in what they did. I think they needed to be out from under the hundreds of thousands of red light camera tickets so that they could apply their increasingly scarce resources to the important stuff - violent crime and crooked politicians. Or, maybe they just couldn't hold their noses any longer.
Anyway, on the 'net there's a HUGE amount of solid journalism supporting what I wrote. All anyone (including ThatGuy) needs to do is do the Googles I described above, and read the Times articles, the LA News articles, and particularly the LA Weekly articles and the hundreds of comments attached.
I guess "Brevity is the soul of wit" is gonna be my tagline.
Re: Red Light Camera Ticket in Santa Clarita, California
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OK, whom to believe about the ability to ignore camera tickets in LA County?
Yes, it is unprecedented that a court would unilaterally decide to "back burner" cases for a certain type of crime. But I see a higher purpose in what they did. I think they needed to be out from under the hundreds of thousands of red light camera tickets so that they could apply their increasingly scarce resources to the important stuff - violent crime and crooked politicians. Or, maybe they just couldn't hold their noses any longer.
Anyway, on the 'net there's a HUGE amount of solid journalism supporting what I wrote. All anyone (including ThatGuy) needs to do is do the Googles I described above, and read the Times articles, the LA News articles, and particularly the LA Weekly articles and the hundreds of comments attached.
I guess "Brevity is the soul of wit" is gonna be my tagline.
Excellent response! My recent red light citation in Orange County (where I couldn't ignore it) showed the problems they have with red light citations.
I hired a traffic attorney and he got it dismissed due to lack of photographic clarity. But only after the camera company detected my infraction, handed it off to get a police review - which was poorly done, prepared a Violation Notice package, then handed it off to the OC Court which did another mailing. Court Clerks and a Prosecutor were also involved and well paid.
All these personnel were paid for absolutely no return on the dollar. They blundered it from the beginning all for nothing. And this is done over, and over, and over, every day.
Instead of throwing the citations in the trash, we should be throwing the red light cameras in the trash. Can you say 'poor return on investment'.
So what does the CA State Legislature do in response to these broken revenue stream? They hire 'A Guy' to come onto this website to persuade people to pay their citations. Lord help us! How many can he possibly be reaching?
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OK, whom to believe about the ability to ignore camera tickets in LA County?
You must be more obtuse than what you led us to believe.. Did you not read the notice posted on the L A County Superior Court website? Did you not read this part: Anyone issued a red-light citation must resolve it within the specified time limits or face certain penalties as prescribed by law.
I choose to believe the court's explanation regarding what "IT" (i.e. the COURT) requires of individuals "IT" ordered to RESPOND (NOT "ignore") to its order in a timely manner. And you should consider that your renewed efforts to mislead people will fail no matter whether you post under BornToday or BornAgain.
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Yes, it is unprecedented that a court would unilaterally decide to "back burner" cases for a certain type of crime. But I see a higher purpose in what they did. I think they needed to be out from under the hundreds of thousands of red light camera tickets so that they could apply their increasingly scarce resources to the important stuff - violent crime and crooked politicians. Or, maybe they just couldn't hold their noses any longer.
Anyway, on the 'net there's a HUGE amount of solid journalism supporting what I wrote. All anyone (including ThatGuy) needs to do is do the Googles I described above, and read the Times articles, the LA News articles, and particularly the LA Weekly articles and the hundreds of comments attached.
Blah Blah, Blah... Only an idiot like you would buy into any of the crap you spew!
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I guess "Brevity is the soul of wit" is gonna be my tagline.
Oh, I've got a better tagline for you... "Idiocy is the mind of a dimwit!"
Sadly for you though, we are already at full idiotic capacity on this forum... Someone beat you to the position and he's got you beat hands down... Actually, he may even be a bit overqualified to fill that position. A compulsive pathological liar and an idiot. Imagine the impact there.. LOL
And speaking of the slimy devil...
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So Cal
Excellent response!
Bwahahahaaaaa... You wouldn't know the difference if it bit you in the head... Yet you are so pathetically desperate for one single uptick in your favor... So much so that you would come up with even more drivel like this:
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So what does the CA State Legislature do in response to these broken revenue stream? They hire 'A Guy' to come onto this website to persuade people to pay their citations. Lord help us! How many can he possibly be reaching?
Definitely overqualified!!!
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My recent red light citation... ,,,<<<<SNIP>>>>
Give it up already... Your story is one big lie... Nobody believes a single word you say!