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  • 01-29-2014, 10:08 AM
    L&S
    Unlawful Access to Electronic Accounts
    My question involves criminal law for the state of: utah.
    My now x husband paid to have a group of hackers get into all of my communications. I have tons of proof. They got into my I phone, computers and even pay as you go phones.

    I brought this to the attention of local police early and they said they couldn't do anything because he was just looking at my life.

    I ended up losing my good credit, lost thousands of dollars and had to move to get away from the web of hackers.

    If I pursue this now with the authorities what are the penalties to my x?
  • 01-29-2014, 10:41 AM
    Dogmatique
    Re: My X Husband Paid to Have Communications Hacked
    I'd love to hear about the proof.

    What have you got?

    And how exactly did they manage to hack a pay-as-you-go phone?

    Are you posing questions for others?
  • 01-29-2014, 10:52 AM
    L&S
    Re: My X Husband Paid to Have Communications Hacked
    The proof has been validated and solid. I am not concerned with that. I need to know what he faces if I decide to pursue this?

    The pay as you go phones can all be hacked easily. They use call forwarding, blue tooth, cloning, and they also stole my contacts off the iPhone so when I would buy a new pay as you go phone and call my kids, they would then know the number. I went through 13 of them and could hear the creeps breathing on the other end. You have no idea the 8 months of hell with hackers
  • 01-29-2014, 11:15 AM
    Dogmatique
    Re: My X Husband Paid to Have Communications Hacked
    It's the act of hacking which is a crime. But if you insist that the police told you (basically) that because he's just checking up on you that it's not a crime, have fun with that.

    Since I'm in a good mood, here you go. You're welcome!

    http://www.le.utah.gov/code/TITLE76/..._06_070300.htm
  • 01-29-2014, 11:25 AM
    Disagreeable
    Re: My X Husband Paid to Have Communications Hacked
    You have statements from the hackers saying he hired them?
  • 01-29-2014, 11:39 AM
    Dogmatique
    Re: My X Husband Paid to Have Communications Hacked
    (And have they all been prosecuted? Doubt it)
  • 01-29-2014, 12:03 PM
    L&S
    Re: My X Husband Paid to Have Communications Hacked
    Yes. I have a voice recording as well.
  • 01-29-2014, 12:09 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: My X Husband Paid to Have Communications Hacked
    I'm not in the mood to play dentist.

    Either show your hand or take what you've been given (y'know, that Utah statute I provided) .

    Make sure you can get that recording admitted.
  • 01-29-2014, 12:57 PM
    cdwjava
    Re: My X Husband Paid to Have Communications Hacked
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    The proof has been validated and solid. I am not concerned with that.

    You should be.

    What do you mean by "validated and solid." Most lay people think something is a legal slam dunk when it's not. For instance, most people seem to think that having someone's phone number as the sender of a text message is PROOF that the person who owns the phone with that number sent the text ... it is not necessarily so!

    So, what is this "validated" evidence, and WHO has done the validation? If not a law enforcement expert who can assert to the proof in court, it's probably legally meaningless.

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    I need to know what he faces if I decide to pursue this?
    That depends on what he did. Just LOOKING at something without your permission probably isn't a crime. Unlawfully interfering with servers, access lines, or modifying software or hardware can result in a number of criminal offenses ... provided it can be proven. And I don't believe for a moment that you have any substantial proof that he has paid some mystery team of hackers to hack into all your devices including pay-as-you-go phones.

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    I went through 13 of them and could hear the creeps breathing on the other end. You have no idea the 8 months of hell with hackers
    Hackers are not into heavy breathing.

    So, present your evidence to the police and let them take it. If, as you say, they won't do anything, you may be out of luck. You can always check with the local prosecutor's office or the State Attorney General, but without some very clear and convincing evidence, don't expect them to get involved.
  • 01-29-2014, 01:01 PM
    L&S
    Re: My X Husband Paid to Have Communications Hacked
    I have Ip addresses that trace to his work and home. All of the hackers which mostly trace to canada but some solid ones that trace in the states. There are the programs that they put in my computers. There is a ton of stuff. The codes they used, and they accidentally left some stuff on my screen that I was able to save before they crashed one of the computers . It is real. It has been verified.

    What are you wanting to know? I have three infected computers and 13 pay as you go phones and two iPhones that were all infiltrated with hacker land.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Ok never mind. The FBI validated it by the way
  • 01-29-2014, 01:04 PM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: My X Husband Paid to Have Communications Hacked
    If the FBI is investigating this as a crime, why are you here complaining about the local police department?
  • 01-29-2014, 01:06 PM
    cdwjava
    Re: My X Husband Paid to Have Communications Hacked
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    Ok never mind. The FBI validated it by the way

    Bull.

    WHAT did the FBI validate? How? Why?

    If they are investigating, then there would be no need to talk to the local cops. But! The FBI will NOT investigate this sort of offense - sorry; so if the FBI "validated" this somehow, it was not the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
  • 01-29-2014, 01:24 PM
    L&S
    Re: My X Husband Paid to Have Communications Hacked
    You must know then that they only take cases that have a certain amount of damages. My 3k is not enough. I don't care if you believe me. I wanted to know what would happen to the father of my children if I pursue this any further. The evidence is real.
  • 01-29-2014, 01:39 PM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: My X Husband Paid to Have Communications Hacked
    There's no "network of hackers" on the planet that is going to do a tenth of what you suggest in order to pocket less than $3,000. The FBI does not investigate reports of a "network of hackers" to the point of "validating" the report, then arbitrarily drop the case because the damages claim that they've known from day one is less than $3,000. Please stop making stuff up.
  • 01-29-2014, 01:51 PM
    cdwjava
    Re: My X Husband Paid to Have Communications Hacked
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    You must know then that they only take cases that have a certain amount of damages. My 3k is not enough. I don't care if you believe me. I wanted to know what would happen to the father of my children if I pursue this any further. The evidence is real.

    No, the FBI is not involved in this. If someone claiming to be with the FBI told you that they were looking into this, they were full of it.

    What charges anyone might face would depend on the charges filed. Since it appears that no one is taking the matter seriously, right now he risks nothing.
  • 01-29-2014, 01:59 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: My X Husband Paid to Have Communications Hacked
    And considering IPs can be spoofed..
  • 01-29-2014, 02:14 PM
    L&S
    Re: My X Husband Paid to Have Communications Hacked
    Think what you want. You are wrong.
  • 01-29-2014, 02:17 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: My X Husband Paid to Have Communications Hacked
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    Think what you want. You are wrong.



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