What Will Happen if an Adult Male Stranger Wrongly Touches a Female Minor

My question involves criminal law for the state of: Virgina

Here's an interesting scenario.

Homeless shelter is operated by a private non-profit and shelters mainly males. Female employee of the non-profit brings her 17 year-old daughter to work in the evening. Daughter looks college age, wears black spandex that reveals every detail of her very shapely behind.

Place is filled with primarily with males of all ages, races, and conditions -- physical impairments, mental impairments, substance abusers with alcohol and drug problems, etc. Well-run and responsible, caring staff. Likelihood of a serious violent crime like murder or rape is very low-- lower than on the street even. Likelihood of a scuffle between guys or an incident of grab-ass is not so low. If an intoxicated man offensively embraces the adult female employee, then he is guilty of something like misdemeanor assault (unwanted touching), which would likely result in exclusion from the facility. If an intoxicated man embraces or fondles the 17 year-old daughter though, is he guilty of earth-shattering, sex-offender-registry, adult-on-minor physical assault or sexual assault?

Shelter residents aren't permitted to carry weapons or drugs into the facility because these things are dangerous, but the adult female seems to be unaware of the danger posed by a sexualized 17 year-old in a place filled with many men whose conditions range from sane and sober to schizophrenic and alcoholic. If an incident of grab-ass occurs between a shelter resident and the 17 year-old, who is able to say that not contacting the police is the legal thing to do? Once police are called, who can stop an arrest from occurring? Knowing what can happen to chemically dependent and mentally ill men who are convicted of child sex offenses, it seems like allowing the residents to play Russian Roulette might be more safe than allowing a 17 year old female in the place.

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Quoting FLee

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My question involves criminal law for the state of: Virgina

Here's an interesting scenario.

Homeless shelter is operated by a private non-profit and shelters mainly males. Female employee of the non-profit brings her 17 year-old daughter to work in the evening. Daughter looks college age, wears black spandex that reveals every detail of her very shapely behind.

Place is filled with primarily with males of all ages, races, and conditions -- physical impairments, mental impairments, substance abusers with alcohol and drug problems, etc. Well-run and responsible, caring staff. Likelihood of a serious violent crime like murder or rape is very low-- lower than on the street even. Likelihood of a scuffle between guys or an incident of grab-ass is not so low. If an intoxicated man offensively embraces the adult female employee, then he is guilty of something like misdemeanor assault (unwanted touching), which would likely result in exclusion from the facility. If an intoxicated man embraces or fondles the 17 year-old daughter though, is he guilty of earth-shattering, sex-offender-registry, adult-on-minor physical assault or sexual assault?

Shelter residents aren't permitted to carry weapons or drugs into the facility because these things are dangerous, but the adult female seems to be unaware of the danger posed by a sexualized 17 year-old in a place filled with many men whose conditions range from sane and sober to schizophrenic and alcoholic. If an incident of grab-ass occurs between a shelter resident and the 17 year-old, who is able to say that not contacting the police is the legal thing to do? Once police are called, who can stop an arrest from occurring? Knowing what can happen to chemically dependent and mentally ill men who are convicted of child sex offenses, it seems like allowing the residents to play Russian Roulette might be more safe than allowing a 17 year old female in the place.

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Re-read your own words, and then you'll understand why I'm saying this:

Stop trying to justify touching up a teenager. Leave her alone. And stop trying to lay the blame at her doorstep.

If an intoxicated man embraces or fondles the 17 year-old daughter though, is he guilty of earth-shattering, sex-offender-registry, adult-on-minor physical assault or sexual assault?

Depending on exactly what transpires, the answer is quite possibly YES.

...and in most cases, you can have your butt kicked out of that homeless shelter....

And you had also better hope the 17 year old does not have any self defense or martial arts training.

Dog, I did say she had a nice, shapely behind that her black spandex leotards showed off. It's a nicer ass than many women have at any age, and probably nicer than you could ever hope to have or ever have your hands on. It was the spandex that made me think she was in college.

I'm aware of the laws as they pertain to me. She is a nice young woman, based on my conversation with her. My concern is for the mentally ill and chemically dependent residents who may not have their wits about them. Your response reveals that you're more interested in ad hominem attacks on others than legal questions. Or maybe you'd like to see an alcoholic man land on the sex offender registry because he grabbed the ass of a 17 year-old minor who was permitted by her mother to wear black spandex to the homeless shelter at night. Maybe you'd just like to see an alcoholic man dowsed in gasoline and set ablaze regardless.

What the female is wearing does not give anyone else permission to play grab-ass with her. No matter what.

That is the legal answer, regardless of what you may think.

Your last post is being reported to the moderators.

Not worried about that. They kick people into the cold for failing to shut the f up.

I just don't want any of the mentally ill or alcoholic guys to land on a sex offender registry for acting impulsively with a female who is technically a child but is physically mature, very attractive, and dressed in spandex that reveals every detail of her very shapely ass.

Think it through like an adult. A man who lands on the sex offender registry that is schizophrenic or alcoholic has a very short life expectancy indeed. Wouldn't it be safer to let the residents play Russian Roulette than to permit a 17 year-old, sexualized female into an adult homeless shelter? They have a family shelter for families with children who are homeless, but the girl wasn't homeless... she lives with her mother who works evenings at the shelter and permitted her into the adult area. I talked to her for several minutes while her mom was distracted with other stuff in another area.

Who could say that the police should not be called if an adult male grabbed the child's ass?

Who on the police force could say that an arrest should not be made once the evidence revealed the crime?

Who in the prosecutor's office could not bring charges?

I am thinking like an adult. You are thinking like a horny teenager who is ruled by his hormones.

My last post on the subject.

You are adding all these variables to the equation that won't matter in court or to a police officer. It is illegally for an adult male to sexually assault an underage female, period. No one can tell you if a judge will lesson a sentence because of drug addiction or mental illness, only that judge knows, but i wouldn't depend on a judge doing that if i were involved in this case.

Yeah, that is my point.

Grab-assing an adult female is wrong. Grab-assing a 17 year-old in black spandex is wrong too, but it is an entirely different type of offense from a legal standpoint. The sex offender registry won't say that the girl was nearly 18, was physically mature, and was wearing black spandex leotards with nothing over her ass.

You're pretty moronic cbg for attempting to imply that I was saying it was okay to grab a woman's ass based upon what she is wearing. I wasn't saying it was right. I was saying the likelihood of mistaking the child for a woman was increased by the child's clothing, which was black spandex tights. In a chaotic place filled with men, some of whom are mentally ill or substance abusers, that's a very dangerous thing... for the men moreso than the girl. Gotta run.