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  • 12-16-2013, 12:13 AM
    Dogmatique
    Re: I-864, Affidavit of Support and Using the Intending Immigrant's Income
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    Thanks for the Avvo guide. It's well written and clear. I completely get the idea of joint sponsorship and why it exists. I would love to rant a little more why the lawful income requirement isn't explicitly stated in the supporting documentation, but wouldn't dare to waste anyone's time.

    @Dogmatique: Frankly, I don't think most immigrant sponsors are fully aware of what that contract means and all the obligations that go with it. All people care about is getting their family members legalized, so everyone can go on with their lives.

    If anyone can provide some insight on how to amend that I-864, it will be much appreciated.



    Thank you again Disagreable. Your clever insights provided some much needed comic relief in an otherwise dull and monotonous day.


    Nope. They don't.

    They often need to have it spelled out:

    This obligation is a contract between the sponsor and the US government. Divorce does not get rid of the obligation, and the sponsor is theoretically on the hook for 125% of the Federal Poverty Level until one of these conditions is met:

    1. The immigrant naturalizes

    2. The immigrant earns 40 qualifying SS quarters

    3. The immigrant dies

    4. The immigrant abandons their residency.
  • 12-16-2013, 01:56 AM
    llworking
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    Anything for a traitor assisting foreign invaders to take over the US.

    Like drama much?
  • 12-16-2013, 02:03 AM
    Dogmatique
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    Like drama much?



    I almost appreciated the irony of it, to be honest...though it wouldn't have been half as amusing if he'd actually intended it to be ironic.

    An American complaining about furriners coming in and taking over...

    ;)
  • 12-16-2013, 05:17 AM
    Disagreeable
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    This is not the place to get into the politics behind these bottom feeders being permitted to invade and take over the US. When your grand kids pay the price, I only hope you are alive to watch.


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    I almost appreciated the irony of it, to be honest...though it wouldn't have been half as amusing if he'd actually intended it to be ironic.

    An American complaining about furriners coming in and taking over...

    ;)

  • 12-16-2013, 11:36 AM
    T53147
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    OP,

    Are YOU willing to undertake sponsorship? If not, be sure to explain to your friends that they should be honest with anyone they ask.
  • 12-16-2013, 11:42 AM
    Dogmatique
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    This is not the place to get into the politics behind these bottom feeders being permitted to invade and take over the US. When your grand kids pay the price, I only hope you are alive to watch.

    In other words, it's only okay to talk about if you raise the issue?

    Even funnier, given (again) what you actually said.

    :cool:

    For what its worth, I live in a notoriously immigrant-friendly area. There's a reason why my location is listed the way it is. ;)

    (And seriously dude? You just reminded me that my eldest grandchild is going to be 10 next year. TEN. He's not allowed to be ten - it seems like only last week I was the tandem diaper queen!)
  • 12-16-2013, 12:01 PM
    Disagreeable
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    Well, if you want to get technical, my understanding is you are a poster child for how a foreigner can manipulate the US system to their financial advantage. Citizenship, bankruptcy and SS I understand. I am not the one who seems to be bringing up centuries old history to make an immigration statement. The message for which is completely garbled since it is not the same circumstances and the circumstances there established territorial dominance globally.

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    In other words, it's only okay to talk about if you raise the issue?

    Even funnier, given (again) what you actually said.

    :cool:

    For what its worth, I live in a notoriously immigrant-friendly area. There's a reason why my location is listed the way it is. ;)

    (And seriously dude? You just reminded me that my eldest grandchild is going to be 10 next year. TEN. He's not allowed to be ten - it seems like only last week I was the tandem diaper queen!)

  • 12-16-2013, 12:15 PM
    Dogmatique
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    Well, if you want to get technical, my understanding is you are a poster child for how a foreigner can manipulate the US system to their financial advantage. Citizenship, bankruptcy and SS I understand. I am not the one who seems to be bringing up centuries old history to make an immigration statement. The message for which is completely garbled since it is not the same circumstances and the circumstances there established territorial dominance globally.



    Sorry, I had to Q4P before you realized that it might be better to just keep quiet.

    :cool:

    And honeypie sweetums? We can smell your agenda from here. Not a particularly nice stench, but then you probably know that.
  • 12-16-2013, 12:18 PM
    Disagreeable
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    Because I believe in the Constitution? Because I believe the law should be enforced, not altered, ignored and manipulated for the financial gain of a small group of people at the expense of all US citizens? I have nothing to be quiet about, you are the one who wanted to make this a discussion and debate. I suggested this was not the proper place. Just because you do not like the taste of what grows from the seeds you planted, don't blame me. I was simply establishing your agenda which seems to be you have the right to take anything and everything you can get from US citizens. Comparable to that which we deal with here.

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    Sorry, I had to Q4P before you realized that it might be better to just keep quiet.

    :cool:

    And honeypie sweetums? We can smell your agenda from here. Not a particularly nice stench, but then you probably know that.

  • 12-16-2013, 12:43 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: I-864, Affidavit of Support and Using the Intending Immigrant's Income
    I suppose you'd be eating some crow pie if I naturalized, huh? :cool:

    OP, let's reiterate. Your friend's spouse's income will not count. If your friend needs to amend the I-864, that can be done - but at this point a quick consultation with an immigration attorney wouldn't hurt.
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