How to Fight a Bay Bridge Toll Plaza Speeding Ticket, VC 22350

My question involves traffic court in the State of: California

Hi everyone, as my title states I got my very first ticket while crossing the Bay Bridge toll plaza through the FasTrak lane.

Time: 12:30pm
Weather: Clear
Traffic: None
City: Oakland, CA
Location: Bay Bridge Toll Plaza

Approaching the toll plaza the speed is 50mph and to pass through it is 25mph. Now, I drive a natural gas car so 90% of the time I pass through carpool toll lanes to the right which don't have a speed of 25mph. Although that's not what my defense is going to be just making a clarification. Okay so the CHP pulled me over as soon as I passed through the toll plaza and bs'ed basically a speed of 40mph on my ticket. There was no way I was going that fast because you have to slow down in order for your FasTrak to be read. Anyway, he didn't use a radar so that's why I'm saying he bs'ed and wrote down what he thought. I was most likely going 30-35mph to be honest. Anyway, since this is my first ticket I don't know what to write in my Trial By Declaration. I am lucky that he didn't get me on the radar though that is for sure. Just need some help. I really despise the guy, first ticket in 5 years of driving and I am 19 (almost 20 in December) so that is rare. I have a perfect driving record, not even a parking ticket in sight, thank the lord. I have posted the bail $238 but honestly I'm a college student who pays rent and I do not have this kind of money. Really would like to win this.

Thank you so much for all your help.

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Quoting Safzalvi

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Okay so the CHP pulled me over as soon as I passed through the toll plaza and bs'ed basically a speed of 40mph on my ticket. There was no way I was going that fast because you have to slow down in order for your FasTrak to be read. Anyway, he didn't use a radar so that's why I'm saying he bs'ed and wrote down what he thought. I was most likely going 30-35mph to be honest. Anyway, since this is my first ticket I don't know what to write in my Trial By Declaration. I am lucky that he didn't get me on the radar though that is for sure.

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So he bs'ed and guessed 40, and you were only going 30 - 35mph.... But you are lucky he did not get you on radar? What speed would he have cited you for had he caught you on Radar?

You should know that 30 mph, 35 mph or 40 mph all carry the same fine amount... So it makes no difference whatsoever. So if he is going to make it up, then why not cite you for 45? or 50?

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Quoting Safzalvi

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I really despise the guy....

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Wow.... You "despise the guy" because you broke the law (you admitted it) and got caught... That is pretty sad!

Also, far be it for me to burst your bubble, but being 19 with no traffic violations isn't really that great of an accomplishment. In fact, we are all expected to drive without ANY traffic violations at all... That is the standard. And some people go through an entire lifetime without any citations. And guess what, the greater likelihood is that your streak is over.

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Quoting Safzalvi

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Really would like to win this.

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Unfortunately, the odds are stacked against you on this one. You have no defense. Even worse is that you admitted speeding...

You would be better off taking traffic school so you can keep bragging about a clean record (even though it clearly is not so).

Apparently you are fighting a losing argument. Some people are capable of driving through at high speed.
http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/fastra...-bridge/nKt9c/

Apparently you have nothing better to do than leave condescending remarks on everyone's threads who are trying to get sincere help, go be an ass**** some where else. I think you go on to forums wishing you had some type of authority in the matter so that you could screw over everyone, now THAT is pretty sad.

Neosporin for the burns.

I'm not the moron who got ticketed at the toll booth then tried to claimed it was impossible for a car to go through that fast. Put on your Big Boy panties and try again.

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Apparently you have nothing better to do than leave condescending remarks on everyone's threads who are trying to get sincere help, go be an ass**** some where else. I think you go on to forums wishing you had some type of authority in the matter so that you could screw over everyone, now THAT is pretty sad.

Neosporin for the burns.

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Quoting Disagreeable

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I'm not the moron who got ticketed at the toll booth then tried to claimed it was impossible for a car to go through that fast. Put on your Big Boy panties and try again.

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I'm sorry I don't know how I replied to you. I meant to reply to the "That Guy" who was trying to be a hard***. Btw, I know I wasn't going 40, I never do, I wait until the light flashes for my fastrak to and then speed up after I've gone through. So it's legitimate to say I know that I wasn't going 40.

So I've decided to go ahead and report the OP because potty mouth to volunteers isn't really what this place about.

I contacted the website to tell them to terminate my account. I don't have time to read rude comments from people. I'm new to the site and the first reply I got was from That Guy with a bunch of rude comments. I don't know why you think I'm wrong for calling him out, if you see his activity he does it to everyone. Anyway way too old to be cyber bullied. Good bye. Wish I knew how to delete this thread.

I apologize also. That said, again the argument it cannot be done is certainly not effective based on the link I provided. So back to your story.... By your own admission the error is minor between your estimate and his. Given only a 5 mph difference, he is the more credible of the two of you. Is there a difference in the charge between the two or will it change whether you can take traffic school?

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I'm sorry I don't know how I replied to you. I meant to reply to the "That Guy" who was trying to be a hard***. Btw, I know I wasn't going 40, I never do, I wait until the light flashes for my fastrak to and then speed up after I've gone through. So it's legitimate to say I know that I wasn't going 40.

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Quoting CourtClerk

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So I've decided to go ahead and report the OP because potty mouth to volunteers isn't really what this place about.

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Thank you CC... Sometimes there isn't much that can be done to prevent idiots like this one from coming on, signing up and posting their idiotic drivel.
I did nothing but give this immature dimwit the advice he came asking for.

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Quoting Safzalvi

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Neosporin for the burns.

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You must be asking for donations of that... And yes, you will likely need as much of it as you can get as you fight this citation. On second though, I hear Vaseline might work better.

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Quoting Safzalvi

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Wish I knew how to delete this thread.

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I see what you mean. Your first post alone provides enough proof of your true caliber, a chump! I added nothing to it. I only used what you posted to provide proof of what a hateful idiot you are. And frankly, I am not surprised you are embarrassed by all of it.

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Good bye

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Wait... Typically, what losers like you end up doing is, they'll wait until they lose their fight in court only to return to post how they won their citation and how I gave them bad advice... So you might want to retract your good bye; leave your options open!

You're not worth this reply, but it's okay I'll let you feel important for a bit, I took care of the citation. I must be a real jerk, so much so that my wonderful neighbor who is actually of authority unlike you took care of the citation. ;) She must hate me and think I'm awful. I'm sorry you tried so hard to make me feel bad but didn't succeed. And oh, just so you feel even better about yourself, I'm a 19 year old girl not a "He" as you would like to think because you thought you were having some real macho duel here, and you, you're probably in your 40s-50s facing a mid life crisis because you're real bitter so much so that you like to bully children on the Internet.

I'm not embarrassed by my posts, I simply have a life and do not need to be notified everytime some "chump" responds to my post. I usually don't even waste my breath to acknowledge bullies. Sigh. 2 minutes I will never get back.

And yes I got away with it because this is my good karma, unlike you I like to help others.

Now, good bye. Sorry that you will have to find your source of entertainment on another post.


Bonne chance avec votre vie triste et revoir ;)

Awwwwwe. Don't you all remember when you were so young and naive. For most of the members here I think it occurred when we were teens.

Okay, let me clue you in on something. They do expect everyone to immediately jam on and engage their ABS or skid to a speed decrease of 25mph. They expect the driver to be mature and responsible enough to start slowing in the 50 mph zone, before passing the 25 mph sign. :wallbang:

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Quoting Safzalvi

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You're not worth this reply, but it's okay I'll let you feel important for a bit, I took care of the citation. I must be a real jerk, so much so that my wonderful neighbor who is actually of authority unlike you took care of the citation. ;) She must hate me and think I'm awful. I'm sorry you tried so hard to make me feel bad but didn't succeed. And oh, just so you feel even better about yourself, I'm a 19 year old girl not a "He" as you would like to think because you thought you were having some real macho duel here, and you, you're probably in your 40s-50s facing a mid life crisis because you're real bitter so much so that you like to bully children on the Internet.

I'm not embarrassed by my posts, I simply have a life and do not need to be notified everytime some "chump" responds to my post. I usually don't even waste my breath to acknowledge bullies. Sigh. 2 minutes I will never get back.

And yes I got away with it because this is my good karma, unlike you I like to help others.

Now, good bye. Sorry that you will have to find your source of entertainment on another post.


Bonne chance avec votre vie triste et revoir ;)

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I'd sure like to know who you know at the courts that would fix a ticket, because see... that's against the law and would land both of you in jail. Once a ticket gets to the courthouse the ONLY person that can make it go away is someone at the courthouse.

I guess you don't know what taking care of something means. :) It can be done legally and with good advice. Not by breaking laws. Lets just say it'll be my secret ;) and I would've passed on my advice but you guys apparently are class A traffic experts.

God I swear you all have nothing better to do. Just because I put my age, which can also be a lie because you know how everything posted on the Internet is true? You guys think it's okay to bash me because I'm young, supposedly. I might be 40 and bitter also.

Later cause I'm rad and young and not wrinkly. This is how I should talk like a cool teen. Yeah.

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Quoting Safzalvi

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I took care of the citation.

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And???? That is your obligation... Were you under the impression that you can ignore it?

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Quoting Safzalvi

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I must be a real jerk,

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I wouldn't say a jerk... An idiot? Sure you proved that early on... A big mouth acting tough and un-bothered.... It does not matter if you are a girl or a boy. At 19 years old, you are an adult and yet here you are acting as foolish as a 9 year old. Pretty immature. Worse yet, pretty sad!!!

And apparently, you're not done making a fool and an idiot out of yourself:

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... so much so that my wonderful neighbor who is actually of authority unlike you took care of the citation.

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If by "took care of the citation" you mean she paid it on your behalf, then I'd agree she is a great neighbor... Still, don't forget, you should take traffic school otherwise your "perfect" record will be tarnished! But I wouldn't buy that story if I heard it from her... On the other hand, if by "took care of it", you mean "somehow made it go away", then you are an even bigger idiot for suggesting that anyone "of authority" would risk not only whatever career it is that grants them such authority, but would also risk a criminal charge getting filed against them for corruption... You ought to be ashamed of yourself!

Examples:

http://bcove.me/lkb9j4zg

But that was only a deputy D.A.... Small chunk of change in the course of a day in any courtroom... How about a judge, fixing tickets? What do you think happened to him?

Panel removes Orange County judge for fixing traffic tickets of family, friends

Here is what a recent L.A. Times article said about the topic:

But dismissing tickets purely as a favor to a friend, crony or high-ranking official is nothing but corruption. Not only does it cheat municipalities out of legitimate revenue and allow people who broke the rules — often safety rules — to go unpunished, but it means that the law is applied unequally. The state commission that removed the Orange County judge said that his misconduct created "both the appearance and reality of a two-track system of justice — one for his family and friends and another for all others." And that's really hard to fix.

I'm sure your neighbor, who is an authority, and who thinks really highly of you, appreciates you branding her as a corrupt official and an alleged criminal... This really should be the lowest that, even you, a pathetic loser, can stoop... Although I never thought you would stoop this low so who knows, maybe you'll surprise me, again!



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In one post you say "its been taken care of" and in the next, you come back still trying to make sense of your mistakes... How pathetic!

The fact that you are going to school trying to better yourself does not grant you a free pass on having to comply with the speed limits that apply to everyone... Neither does the fact that you drive a natural gas vehicle or that you are in the bay area.

As for you bad short term memory and not remembering your speed, were you lying then when you said you went through at 30 - 35 mph or are you lying now saying you don't remember? Either way, not to worry, that is one reason why the officer wrote it on the citation.

Think about this question as you sit there and sulk in your misery... If my opinion means so little to you (and I quote: "You're not worth this reply"), why are you making such an issue of what I post? Where do you get off thinking you are qualified to judge me? (Before you came back with the same question, I can judge you because you came here asking for an opinion about what you posted... You opened the door for others -anyone, really- to judge you by your statements) Why are my posts bothering you so much! Then again, your statement about despising the officer who cited you speaks volumes about you!

And lastly, if you had any self respect, you would not be comparing yourself to other kids who are driving wrecklessly drugged up on some E or alcohol or weed... You would choose a better standard to set your sights upon... Enough said!

I am going to be the mature adult I am and tell you, That Guy, that you win.

Since you are so curious, someone of authority means any type of authority; ie a lawyer. Lawyers know what to say cause you know they went to school for it. I simply did what she told me to do because she has the authority as a lawyer to know what shes talking about. And since she knows what she is talking about and deals with the law, I know I will be just fine. :)

So quick to judge eh? We all wish we had someone to give us free passes but it doesn't work that way in life. If the law gets broken for one person, it should be the same for everyone. I know enough to know that.

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So I've decided to go ahead and report the OP because potty mouth to volunteers isn't really what this place about.

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Awww Jeeez..potty mouths are somewhat tolerable but NOBODY likes a SNITCH.

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Now, good bye.
Bonne chance avec votre vie triste et revoir ;)

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C'mon Junior, don't let them run you off the board like that.

To clarify...i use those words figuratively not literally. No one is actually running you off but if you pick up your toys and storm off the end result is the same. Remember..words are your weapon.