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  • 10-26-2013, 10:26 AM
    viol8te
    Re: Under Agree Student Being Sued for Incident at School Police Said Come into Stati
    Trust me. A conviction of conditional discharge or felony battery(concussion could qualify) mandates a registry on that list. That is fact.
  • 10-28-2013, 10:54 AM
    Welfarelvr
    Re: Under Agree Student Being Sued for Incident at School Police Said Come into Stati
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    Trust me. A conviction of conditional discharge or felony battery(concussion could qualify) mandates a registry on that list. That is fact.

    I am not good at trusting when the words are right in front of me. Please give the section. "Felony" battery might be considered aggravated battery. That is assuming there is a concussion or the battery would otherwise be considered aggravated. Look to the requirements of when one must register under aggravated battery. Sometimes a person under 18 would have to register. Not with aggravated battery.
  • 10-28-2013, 11:43 AM
    viol8te
    Re: Under Agree Student Being Sued for Incident at School Police Said Come into Stati
    I have not the time to go over statutes for something that I and every other PO in the county of Cook has to enforce with victims who are minors. If the victim is 17 and under and the offense is a violent offense, then the offencer must register. That goes for felony and conditional discharges. Feel free to test that statement if you'd like. I had 10 people register and that is the main criteria.
  • 10-28-2013, 02:06 PM
    Welfarelvr
    Re: Under Agree Student Being Sued for Incident at School Police Said Come into Stati
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    I have not the time to go over statutes for something that I and every other PO in the county of Cook has to enforce with victims who are minors. If the victim is 17 and under and the offense is a violent offense, then the offencer must register. That goes for felony and conditional discharges. Feel free to test that statement if you'd like. I had 10 people register and that is the main criteria.

    In your first post you wrote:
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    And of course let's not forget that a conviction of a batter to a minor constitutes a 10 year registration as a violent offender against youth.
    I disagreed and supplied the statute.

    I now see you changed your position to "felony" battery on a child. That is not entirely the case. It is close enough to not worry about the differences. I am glad we came to a resolution we both can agree on.
  • 10-28-2013, 03:25 PM
    viol8te
    Re: Under Agree Student Being Sued for Incident at School Police Said Come into Stati
    My goodness, you like to argue just argue, huh? A felony is just that. A conditional discharge is a misdemeanor. Either was a conviction for the battery lands you on the list. But, being that I am answering a question about something I have to order defendants in my home state to do, I know that both misdemeanors and felonies appy. I hope that now we have a resolution on this matter.
  • 10-28-2013, 03:45 PM
    Welfarelvr
    Re: Under Agree Student Being Sued for Incident at School Police Said Come into Stati
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    My goodness, you like to argue just argue, huh? A felony is just that. A conditional discharge is a misdemeanor. Either was a conviction for the battery lands you on the list. But, being that I am answering a question about something I have to order defendants in my home state to do, I know that both misdemeanors and felonies appy. I hope that now we have a resolution on this matter.

    Then you should be able to show the statute. I supplied what I felt was the registration statute. A misdemeanor battery is not reportable there absent other conditions. Do you allege another condition here?
  • 10-28-2013, 04:02 PM
    viol8te
    Re: Under Agree Student Being Sued for Incident at School Police Said Come into Stati
    A conditional discharge is a conviction!!!

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    Felony; generally can't be expunged. Conditional discharge; generally can't be expunged. Supervision; can be expunged. Usually after a period of 2 years. CDS and Felony charges are reported as convictions and placed on the NCIC LEADS sheets as convictoins of the offense.
  • 10-28-2013, 04:43 PM
    Welfarelvr
    Re: Under Agree Student Being Sued for Incident at School Police Said Come into Stati
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    A conditional discharge is a conviction!!!

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    Felony; generally can't be expunged. Conditional discharge; generally can't be expunged. Supervision; can be expunged. Usually after a period of 2 years. CDS and Felony charges are reported as convictions and placed on the NCIC LEADS sheets as convictoins of the offense.

    What does that have to do with the discussion? I am not the sharpest tool in the shed and can miss a lot. I have in the past when writing to this forum. I just do not see the relevance to this topic at all.
  • 10-28-2013, 07:04 PM
    viol8te
    Re: Under Agree Student Being Sued for Incident at School Police Said Come into Stati
    Because the conviction does not have to be a felony. Even misdemeanor battery to a minor qualifies.
  • 10-29-2013, 10:14 AM
    Welfarelvr
    Re: Under Agree Student Being Sued for Incident at School Police Said Come into Stati
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    Because the conviction does not have to be a felony. Even misdemeanor battery to a minor qualifies.

    I provided the statute that appears to me to be the registration statute. Simple battery against a minor with nothing more is not something one must register for under that statute. For your claim to be true there must be another statute covering the same issues of battery against a minor. Please provide that other statute.
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