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  • 09-16-2013, 07:15 PM
    ranger6983
    Parent Held in Contempt After Arranging Marriage of Minor Child
    My question involves marriage law for the State of: Florida

    I had full custody of my 16 year old son.
    He and his girlfriend introduced me to her mother several years ago and we married nine months ago.
    My sons mother has had him in court non-stop for ten years, wanting custody etc.
    He and his girlfriend, my step-daughter, went to another state in May and got married. My wife and I, each with full custody, gave permission.
    In response, the family court judge took him into custody and ordered him to jail after finals week. She issued a "no contact" order between the two of us.
    He ran away to another state and is in hiding from the crazy judge for over 100 days.
    Judge issued a "pickup" order and had me arrested for contempt of court.
    I could only get out of jail when he turned himself into the jail. She drew a line through the word "evidence."
    The court of appeals ordered my immediate release.
    Now I'm probably going back to jail for contempt unless he turns himself into jail.
    The judge has issued "no contact" orders between my son and his wife.
  • 09-16-2013, 07:17 PM
    cbg
    Re: Emancipated Minor by Missouri Marriage in Florida of a Florida Teenager
    I' sorry to hear that.

    When you have a legal question, be sure to let us know.
  • 09-16-2013, 07:23 PM
    Disagreeable
    Re: Emancipated Minor by Missouri Marriage in Florida of a Florida Teenager
    What state was this marriage in? Why did you show contempt for the court?
  • 09-16-2013, 07:29 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: Emancipated Minor by Missouri Marriage in Florida of a Florida Teenager
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    Quoting ranger6983
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    My question involves marriage law for the State of: Florida

    I had full custody of my 16 year old son.
    He and his girlfriend introduced me to her mother several years ago and we married nine months ago.
    My sons mother has had him in court non-stop for ten years, wanting custody etc.
    He and his girlfriend, my step-daughter, went to another state in May and got married. My wife and I, each with full custody, gave permission.
    In response, the family court judge took him into custody and ordered him to jail after finals week. She issued a "no contact" order between the two of us.
    He ran away to another state and is in hiding from the crazy judge for over 100 days.
    Judge issued a "pickup" order and had me arrested for contempt of court.
    I could only get out of jail when he turned himself into the jail. She drew a line through the word "evidence."
    The court of appeals ordered my immediate release.
    Now I'm probably going back to jail for contempt unless he turns himself into jail.
    The judge has issued "no contact" orders between my son and his wife.


    Evidently the court didn't think the kids were mature enough to be married - and him running away has pretty much confirmed the court's feelings.
  • 09-16-2013, 07:41 PM
    ranger6983
    Re: Emancipated Minor by Missouri Marriage in Florida of a Florida Teenager
    They were married in Missouri. A chaperone, who has a long list of credentials as a law enforcement official, has written an affidavit stating they voluntarily got married, which is the absolute truth. He ran away because he's terrified of the judge, who screamed at him he was lying about his mothers abuse he remembered from childhood. I don't blame him. i'd leave too if I could. He's living with his attorney godfather. He is Japanese-American and his wife is Mexican-American. I suspect the judge is a racist from here in the land if the swamp people.

    The question is: By Florida law, the disability of nonage ends when he got married, period, right?
  • 09-16-2013, 07:49 PM
    Disagreeable
    Re: Emancipated Minor by Missouri Marriage in Florida of a Florida Teenager
    That does not reflect on your contempt of court process, now does it? Actually you appear to be the one with hillbilly morals now don't you?
  • 09-16-2013, 07:56 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: Emancipated Minor by Missouri Marriage in Florida of a Florida Teenager
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    They were married in Missouri. A chaperone, who has a long list of credentials as a law enforcement official, has written an affidavit stating they voluntarily got married, which is the absolute truth. He ran away because he's terrified of the judge, who screamed at him he was lying about his mothers abuse he remembered from childhood. I don't blame him. i'd leave too if I could. He's living with his attorney godfather. He is Japanese-American and his wife is Mexican-American. I suspect the judge is a racist from here in the land if the swamp people.

    The question is: By Florida law, the disability of nonage ends when he got married, period, right?


    Ah. So when a ruling doesn't go his/your way, the judge is automatically racist? Gotcha.
  • 09-16-2013, 08:04 PM
    Disagreeable
    Re: Emancipated Minor by Missouri Marriage in Florida of a Florida Teenager
    I suspect the judge is going to take action to revoke the marriage as based on duress under the theory he did not have the capability to consent and that you are still keeping him under duress. It will be interesting if the Godfather ends up being disbarred.

    Quote:

    451.010. Marriage is considered in law as a civil contract, to which the consent of the parties capable in law of contracting is essential.
  • 09-16-2013, 10:34 PM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Emancipated Minor by Missouri Marriage in Florida of a Florida Teenager
    What is the point of posting this... well, it's not even really a question... here if you're not going to be honest about what happened?
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    I had full custody of my 16 year old son.
    He and his girlfriend introduced me to her mother several years ago and we married nine months ago.

    Congratulations.
    Quote:

    Quoting ranger6983
    My sons mother has had him in court non-stop for ten years, wanting custody etc.

    That happens. Should we infer that the court had entered or was about to enter an order that favored the mother, hence these shenanigans?
    Quote:

    Quoting ranger6983
    He and his girlfriend, my step-daughter, went to another state in May and got married. My wife and I, each with full custody, gave permission.

    That would appear to reflect exceptionally poor judgment.
    Quote:

    Quoting ranger6983
    In response, the family court judge took him into custody and ordered him to jail after finals week. She issued a "no contact" order between the two of us.
    He ran away to another state and is in hiding from the crazy judge for over 100 days.

    And we are to believe that he did this all by himself?
    Quote:

    Quoting ranger6983
    Judge issued a "pickup" order and had me arrested for contempt of court.

    No surprise there.
    Quote:

    Quoting ranger6983
    The court of appeals ordered my immediate release.

    One would infer, because the court did not actually have any evidence that you played a part in the child's running away? Please, explain.
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    Quoting ranger6983
    Now I'm probably going back to jail for contempt unless he turns himself into jail.

    This would be because... evidence has now been presented to the court that you were responsible for his running away and/or helping to keep him away from Florida and the jurisdiction of the court?
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    Quoting ranger6983
    The judge has issued "no contact" orders between my son and his wife.

    Your son is sixteen. How old is your stepdaughter? The fact that you picked Missouri suggests to me that she was fifteen, because otherwise you would have picked a closer state, right?

    Should we infer that the court found that the marriage is a sham, meant to deprive the court of jurisdiction over the custody case?
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    They were married in Missouri. A chaperone, who has a long list of credentials as a law enforcement official, has written an affidavit stating they voluntarily got married, which is the absolute truth.

    So you sent the two children across state lines with an adult "chaperone" to get married? This marriage was so bona fide, and so important to you, that neither you nor the girl's mother could be bothered to attend?
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    Quoting ranger6983
    He ran away because he's terrified of the judge, who screamed at him he was lying about his mothers abuse he remembered from childhood. I don't blame him. i'd leave too if I could.

    Memory is a funny thing... with these memories being from the age of four or five? I doubt that the judge would have been angry had there been any contemporaneous reports or corroborating evidence, and had she not inferred that claims of abuse being revealed for the first time after a full decade of litigation were anything but a fiction meant to aid you in a case that was no longer going your way. Whether her inferences are correct or not, am I correctly describing the court's inferences?
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    Quoting ranger6983
    He's living with his attorney godfather. He is Japanese-American and his wife is Mexican-American. I suspect the judge is a racist from here in the land if the swamp people.

    Where does the accusation of racism against the judge come in?

    Was Mr. "attorney godfather" also the aforementioned "chaperone"?
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    Quoting ranger6983
    The question is: By Florida law, the disability of nonage ends when he got married, period, right?

    Oh... finally an actual question.

    Hasn't the judge already ruled on this question? The general rule is that bona fide marriage results in emancipation, Florida Statutes Sec. 743.01. But... if you or your lawyer were comfortable with the validity of the marriage, your son would be in Florida, so you appear to be pretty much convinced that the court's ruling (or anticipated ruling) that the marriage is a sham will be upheld. I anticipate another trip to the Court of Appeals in your (and your son's) future.
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    Quoting Disagreeable
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    I suspect the judge is going to take action to revoke the marriage as based on duress under the theory he did not have the capability to consent and that you are still keeping him under duress. It will be interesting if the Godfather ends up being disbarred.

    I think it's more likely that the judge has ruled, or is expected to rule, that the marriage is a sham intended to deprive the court of jurisdiction.
  • 09-17-2013, 01:03 AM
    ranger6983
    Re: Emancipated Minor by Missouri Marriage in Florida of a Florida Teenager
    I didn't arrange anything. It was their idea. One of my employees went to another state to get married to her 16 year old boyfriend and she had to do so because she was 15 and Florida didn't allow 15 year olds to get married at the time. They've been married 36 years now.

    Maybe the judge should arrest them too.
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