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  • 08-26-2013, 09:34 PM
    L3g@lQv35t0R
    Can I Make My Landlord Repair the Cable Coaxial Cable
    My question involves landlord-tenant law in the State of: California.

    I get my phone via my internet line. I believe LL's in CA must provide at least one functional landline jack.

    Since I use VOIP and not landline (due to finances), can he be forced to repair at his expense? Otherwise I will be forced to repair LL's issues at MY expense, leaving him with a better location when I finally vacate...

    The white plastic with silvery/metal coax in middle coming out of the wall is literally leaning over, touching the floor. This was not the case when the LL showed me the apartment but only when cable co started working with it (they didn't damage it, it was just shoddily attached in the first place).

    TYVM for any advice you can provide...

    J

    P.S. - I believe that it may pose a hazard to the health and safety of my barely 1 year old as well... Thanks.
  • 08-26-2013, 09:44 PM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Can I Make My Landlord Repair the Cable Coaxial Cable
    If you have a functioning wall jack for a regular telephone, that's all your landlord has to provide even if you prefer to use VOIP.

    If the landlord provided you a proper cable hookup but the cable company came out to work on your cable and did something to the cable that stopped it from working properly, have them come back and fix it.

    Your description of the problem with the coaxial cable does not make sense. Perhaps you could offer a better description or post a link to a picture.
    Quote:

    Quoting California Civil Code Section 1941.4.
    The lessor of a building intended for the residential occupation of human beings shall be responsible for installing at least one usable telephone jack and for placing and maintaining the inside telephone wiring in good working order, shall ensure that the inside telephone wiring meets the applicable standards of the most recent National Electrical Code as adopted by the Electronic Industry Association, and shall make any required repairs. The lessor shall not restrict or interfere with access by the telephone utility to its telephone network facilities up to the demarcation point separating the inside wiring.

    "Inside telephone wiring" for purposes of this section, means that portion of the telephone wire that connects the telephone equipment at the customer's premises to the telephone network at a demarcation point determined by the telephone corporation in accordance with orders of the Public Utilities Commission.

  • 08-26-2013, 11:36 PM
    jk
    Re: Can I Make My Landlord Repair the Cable Coaxial Cable
    Quote:

    The white plastic with silvery/metal coax in middle coming out of the wall is literally leaning over, touching the floor. This was not the case when the LL showed me the apartment but only when cable co started working with it (they didn't damage it, it was just shoddily attached in the first place).
    so push it back into the wall. If you have a length of intact coax laying on the floor, then there really is no hazard what so ever.



    Quote:

    P.S. - I believe that it may pose a hazard to the health and safety of my barely 1 year old as well... Thanks
    then keep your child away from the cable. The only part of the cable that carries voltage is the center conductor. If you have something attached to it (a modem or gateway by chance) there is nothing that will harm the child due to electricity. If your child chews on the cable... well, if he does it really isn't the landlord or cable installer's fault but unless the coax has a very stiff screen (woven metal shield) or a very thick shield (think: aluminum foil) there really isn't any concern of harm. If the metallic elements are stiff enough, it could scratch him.


    coax with shield and screen:

    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...9rcBFAKVJoH8yN

    if your coax has that outer black plastic shield in place (could be white though), the only real issue is a trip hazard.

    If you contracted the work with the cable company, then call them up and ask them to repair their installation. If the landlord had the work done, then inform him of the situation and let him deal with it.
  • 08-27-2013, 01:20 AM
    L3g@lQv35t0R
    Re: Can I Make My Landlord Repair the Cable Coaxial Cable
    Quote:

    Quoting L3g@lQv35t0R
    View Post
    My question involves landlord-tenant law in the State of: California.

    I get my phone via my internet line. I believe LL's in CA must provide at least one functional landline jack.

    Since I use VOIP and not landline (due to finances), can he be forced to repair at his expense? Otherwise I will be forced to repair LL's issues at MY expense, leaving him with a better location when I finally vacate...

    The white plastic with silvery/metal coax in middle coming out of the wall is literally leaning over, touching the floor. This was not the case when the LL showed me the apartment but only when cable co started working with it (they didn't damage it, it was just shoddily attached in the first place).

    TYVM for any advice you can provide...

    J

    P.S. - I believe that it may pose a hazard to the health and safety of my barely 1 year old as well... Thanks.

    Here's your requested pic! http://uth1nkukn0wme.tumblr.com/post...o-power-outlet
    as you may be able to make out, there is an a/c adapter plugged into the coax as well, supercharging it. That said, jk's advice might be off. But the closing signature was hillarious.

    Thanks!
  • 08-27-2013, 06:05 AM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Can I Make My Landlord Repair the Cable Coaxial Cable
    It looks like the face plate was installed "on the cheap", rather than installing a simple box (like this one) in the opening - $3 in parts and five minutes of installation to a permanent solution.

    There appear to be red tabs on the back of the face plate that are meant to hold it in place. Try bending them out a bit - not enough to break them, though - reinsert and see if it holds. The screws don't appear to have ever been used - there's noting but drywall for them to connect to, anyway, so it's also possible that the original installation (if you can call it that) was augmented by Elmer's glue, or equivalent.
  • 08-27-2013, 09:31 AM
    jk
    Re: Can I Make My Landlord Repair the Cable Coaxial Cable
    Quote:

    Quoting L3g@lQv35t0R
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    Here's your requested pic! http://uth1nkukn0wme.tumblr.com/post...o-power-outlet
    as you may be able to make out, there is an a/c adapter plugged into the coax as well, supercharging it. That said, jk's advice might be off. But the closing signature was hillarious.

    Thanks!

    Nope, my advice is not off. In fact, it's spot on. That ac adapter is a transformer. If you look at it closely, it will be marked with the output voltage. I'm guessing it is either 12 or 24 volts. Neither is considered dangerous.

    So, the low voltage plate needs to be reinstalled for the outlet on the left after that, just make sure the coax cable are not a trip hazard and do not let your little guy chew on the cables and you are good to go.


    Mr k

    that is a typical "low voltage" installation. It is quite proper and compliant with all applicable codes and rules

    except for the fact it is hanging out of the wall anyway

    personlh I do not like that type of low voltage ring. There is one, strangely enough it is even cheaper than the one used, that is much more delendse. The one used has tabs that slide out to hook behind the drywall and are not on place with a ratchet me ya ism. The even cheaper one is made of thin stamped metal and has tabs that are bent into the hole and back to the back of the drywall and use a drywall screw driven through a hole in the bracket, through the drywall, me throug the bent over tab. The face plate (the white plastic plate in the picture) then attaches to that bracket.

    - - - Updated - - -

    sorry about all the typo's. I was on my phone which is not very friendly sometimes.


    dang, I can't even find a picture of the type of ring used.

    anyway, to fix this is a piece of cake.

    You need one of these:

    http://www.firefold.com/Assets/Brand...MINATOR-1G.jpg



    sorry about the size. I do not know how to re-size a pic I linked.

    You remove the coax from the face plate. (both front and back as it looks like it is the type of installation where the cable screws onto the back of the plate) Unscrew the 2 small screws holding the face plate to the "ring". remove and discard the "ring". Take this new cheap piece of tin. Hold it in front of the hole. Bend the 2 tabs over and hook them behind the drywall. Take the screws (I think they are included, if not, you need a couple generic drywall screws about an inch long or so) and run them through the larger hole (the hole offset of the center line and lined up with the tab), through the drywall and then through the tab and snug it up (don't over tighten or you will strip out the hole in the tab). Re-install the coax to the rear of the plate and using the 2 small screws, attach the face plate to the low voltage ring you just installed. Attach the coax to the front of the face plate and you are finished.



    and that's the low voltage installer's lesson for the day.
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