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  • 08-02-2013, 07:52 AM
    kjub
    Re: Emancipation
    I would have to start working full time and go to school at night or start taking online courses that way I can work full time. I also plan on saving up while I am with my friend. I cannot even try to support myself with my grandparents around. They take every bit of money I earn.
  • 08-02-2013, 08:01 AM
    PandorasBox
    Re: Emancipation
    100% means, not living with a friend or roommate. YOU LIVE ALONE.

    You pay 100% of your rent.
    Your utilities. Phone, heat, water, electric, trash removal...
    Your food (sorry, no food stamps or government assistance).
    You pay your transportation.
    You pay for your staples. "Staples" is defined as things you need - toothbrush, toothpaste, floss, soap, deodorant, dish soap, trash bags, any medications
    You also need: dishes, pots and pans, utensils, bedding, clothing.
    Laundrymat and laundry detergent.
    Health insurance.

    While proving you are self-supportive, and maintaining good grades at school.

    You have no credit history. Many apartments also require you earn 3 times your rent before approving you.

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    One problem with that idea. You are 15. You need a work permit from school, and there are both State and Federal laws about how many hours a minor can go to school and work combined. Last I knew, it was 48. So if you are in school 30 hours, that gives you 18 hours a week at $7.40/hr (Michigan minimum wage).... $7.40x18=532.80 a month. Minus 30% for taxes....that won't even make rent, let alone utilities, food, staples.....

    Seriously....you have a snowman's chance in Hell, ok?
  • 08-02-2013, 08:30 AM
    cbg
    Re: Emancipation
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    I would have to start working full time and go to school at night or start taking online courses that way I can work full time. I also plan on saving up while I am with my friend. I cannot even try to support myself with my grandparents around. They take every bit of money I earn.

    Then I guess you're not going to be emancipated. No minor in the history of the world has ever successfully petitioned for emancipation on promises of what they will be able to do once they're allowed to leave home. If they aren't already able to support themselves before emancipation, emancipation isn't going to happen.

    Not to mention the fact that emancipation is not and never was intended to be the means by which minor can leave home. It was and is intended to be a means of giving legal protections to those minors who, for reasons outside their own control, are ALREADY living on their own.

    I disagree with Pandy to one extent. Nothing says you can't have a roommate. But you do have to prove to the satisfaction of the judge that you can support yourself fully without one - and the judge will be looking for reasons to deny the petition so you'd better have rent reciepts, grocery bills, utilities bills, pay stubs, and the like if you plan to have any chance at all. You don't have those because your grandparents won't let you move out/work/etc.? Then emancipation is not an option for you.
  • 08-02-2013, 08:37 AM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Emancipation
    When it comes to self-support, courts look at capacity. If you can document the capacity to support yourself independently, it doesn't matter if you are saving money by having a roommate. If you cannot support yourself without sharing a residence and splitting the rent bill, a court can be expected to find that you are incapable of supporting yourself. A promise to get a job in the future is not evidence of capacity.

    In any event, you say that you live with your grandparents because that's where your parents decided that you should live. Your parents remain your parents. You cannot get "emancipated" from third parties, even if they're your grandparents. Emancipation would be from your parents.

    Claims of abuse and neglect are issues you can raise with protective services or a guidance counselor at school, and if substantiated and sufficiently severe they may cause you to be removed from the home - but to be placed in foster care or a group home, not "emancipated".
  • 08-02-2013, 11:31 AM
    PandorasBox
    Re: Emancipation
    Thanks for the correction on that. I thought emancipation meant totally living alone.

    Even then, I don't think this young man has the capability of minimum earnings at this point, no matter what.
  • 08-02-2013, 03:00 PM
    kjub
    Re: Emancipation
    Thank all of you for your help, I guess I will have to tough it out until 18 or get my dad to try and get custody over me.
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