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  • 07-24-2013, 06:46 PM
    feeniie
    Can a Minor Go on Vacation Without Parental Consent
    My question involves juvenile law in the State of: MI

    I want to leave home for a week, to spend some time with a friend who lives a few states away. My parents said they wouldn't let me, and I want to live my own life, and just take a vacation for a week. I would pay for all the costs, there and back, and they said they'd take me back in if I ran away. I am 16, and 17 in less that 6 months. Can I leave for a week without being detained or arrested? I would come back, I do love my family and my house, I just need a break for a week, and they say they won't allow it.
  • 07-24-2013, 06:56 PM
    cdwjava
    Re: Can I Leave Home Legally for a Vacation
    You can't live your own life until you are 18. Sorry, that's the way it is. if you do runaway, and your parents report you as missing, then the authorities in that other state can detain you until someone comes to get you. They might also arrest the people harboring you. And, if sex was involved, the people or person you went across state lines to have sex with could find themselves facing state and federal charges.

    When you are 18, start to work a real job, THEN you can go on a vacation. Until then, you are a dependent and subject to the rules of your home.
  • 07-24-2013, 06:57 PM
    jk
    Re: Can I Leave Home Legally for a Vacation
    if you are under 17 (and this is quite specific to MI, most states it is 18), your parents have absolute control over you. If you leave against their wishes, they can report you as a runaway. If you are apprehended, you can be arrested and brought back to MI.

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    You can't live your own life until you are 18. Sorry, that's the way it is. if you do runaway, and your parents report you as missing, then the authorities in that other state can detain you until someone comes to get you. They might also arrest the people harboring you. And, if sex was involved, the people or person you went across state lines to have sex with could find themselves facing state and federal charges.

    When you are 18, start to work a real job, THEN you can go on a vacation. Until then, you are a dependent and subject to the rules of your home.

    17 in MI. We have an odd law that makes it so the authorities cannot go after a 17 year old.
  • 07-24-2013, 07:03 PM
    cdwjava
    Re: Can I Leave Home Legally for a Vacation
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    if you are under 17 (and this is quite specific to MI, most states it is 18), your parents have absolute control over you. If you leave against their wishes, they can report you as a runaway. If you are apprehended, you can be arrested and brought back to MI.

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    17 in MI. We have an odd law that makes it so the authorities cannot go after a 17 year old.

    Yes, of that I am aware ... But, he will be an unescorted, runaway minor without parental supervision in that other state. And, if reported as a runaway (which is still permitted in MI even at 17, I believe) the other state can certainly detain and ship him back home. While MI (and I believe TX and one other state) may not be able to force the child home if they find him in their state, that missing report could be sufficient to support a detention in the other state. It would be in mine.
  • 07-24-2013, 07:11 PM
    cbg
    Re: Can I Leave Home Legally for a Vacation
    And, of course, our poster is 16, not 17. In no state does a 16 year old get to "live his own life".
  • 07-24-2013, 07:15 PM
    Disagreeable
    Re: Can I Leave Home Legally for a Vacation
    You can take all the vacations you can afford.... Once you are 18. Until then, you owe your soul to family rule.
  • 07-24-2013, 07:26 PM
    jk
    Re: Can I Leave Home Legally for a Vacation
    he will not be reported as a runaway in MI because he is not considered a runaway in MI
    The police will not even take the report.

    http://www.volokh.com/wp-content/upl...rentsBrief.pdf

    I cannot copy and paste from that. Scroll down to page 9





    Nobody in MI will lift a finger to do anything about it because they can't.

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    And, of course, our poster is 16, not 17. In no state does a 16 year old get to "live his own life".

    and OP was counseled as such. I was merely pointing out that at 17 rather than 18 the courts cannot do anything to return a 17 yo to their home.
  • 07-24-2013, 07:27 PM
    Disagreeable
    Re: Can I Leave Home Legally for a Vacation
    When his friend goes to jail for harboring a runaway, he will be very unpopular.
  • 07-24-2013, 07:29 PM
    cbg
    Re: Can I Leave Home Legally for a Vacation
    And, once the poster actually turns 17, which will not happen for several months yet, if the parents of the even-in-MI-minor-child call the police in the other state?

    Not questioning your odd law in MI, but even the link you posted agrees that a 17 year old is still a minor in MI. So what if the parents don't call the cops in MI, but in the "friend's" state? Where a 17 year old IS a runaway? Can you guarantee that nothing will happen?

    And, of course, MI law cannot make the Mann Act, if applicable, go away.
  • 07-24-2013, 07:44 PM
    jk
    Re: Can I Leave Home Legally for a Vacation
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    cbg;728623]And, once the poster actually turns 17, which will not happen for several months yet, if the parents of the even-in-MI-minor-child call the police in the other state?
    and the other state is going to attempt to enforce a law that does not exist? As Carl stated, they are unescorted minors but the fact remains, MI cannot demand their return to the state. Do you really believe the other state is going to waste their money holding them and not being able to return them to MI? I would have to guess that would mean the other state simply holds them until they turn 18:disillusionment:

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    Not questioning your odd law in MI, but even the link you posted agrees that a 17 year old is still a minor in MI. So what if the parents don't call the cops in MI, but in the "friend's" state? Where a 17 year old IS a runaway? Can you guarantee that nothing will happen?
    a 17 yo is still a minor but for some reason, the juvenile courts do not have jurisdiction over them.
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    And, of course, MI law cannot make the Mann Act, if applicable, go away
    but since the OP would be the one crossing state lines, it is not his problem. It would be the other party's issue.
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