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  • 07-15-2013, 08:11 AM
    Roverrider
    Is It Possible to Get Empancipated
    My question involves juvenile law in the State of: New York

    I am typing this for my girlfriend, not for me, so we can find out what we can do.

    She is 16 years old, her birthday is at the end of the year so she will be 17 soon. Her whole life her parents have been abusive, and they were marked for child abuse in the past. She does have a younger sister and an older brother but they aren't too nice also. Her parents are very muslim and she is not, and she isn't able to tell them she isn't because she is afraid of the reaction, her father is abusive and has anger issues. She is very nice, she does good in school, but her family is rude and not nice. For the last 3 days she hasn't eaten anything because her father is not letting her eat, thinking she is fat. She is 5'3 and weighs around 80 pounds, she is skinny and she is not allowed to eat, when she was younger she was barely given any food so she physically is not able to gain weight. She really wants to leave the home, she is not allowed to go out herself or even have friends and she is sad almost all the time. We planned out our future and it would be great if she was able to move in with me and my family ( I am 17 and still live with my parents and stuff ) she would be happy here, she wouldn't be starving or abused or any of that, and she really wants to. If there's anything else I need to say, you can tell me in a reply but I want to know what we can do.
  • 07-15-2013, 10:33 AM
    cbg
    Re: Is It Possible to Get Empancipated
    No, she cannot be emancipated and she cannot move in with you and your family. Not until she is 18.

    NY does not have a statute for the emancipation of a minor. NY will, if the minor is already with the permission (express or explicit) of her parents living ON HER OWN (not with her boyfriend's family) and SUPPORTING HERSELF (not being supported by another family) occasionally recognize a minor as emancipation, but there is no statute by which she can go to court and come out emancipated. Nor will any state, even the ones who do have such statutes, emancipate a minor because they do not like the way their parents are treating them. Emancipation is not and never was intended to be a means for a minor to move out; it was and is intended to be a means by which a minor who is ALREADY living on their own for reasons beyond their control, can obtain legal protections.

    If the "not being allowed to eat" story is actual fact and not teenage exaggeration of "he's not letting me eat what I want to eat and instead is making me eat what the rest of the family eats", she can call CPS. But rest assured, even if CPS finds it necessary to remove her from the home, she will NOT be emancipated and she will NOT be allowed to live with you/your parents. She will be placed with other relatives, in foster care, or in a group home, but she will NOT be living with you.

    When she is 18, she can live anywhere she wants. Until then, she lives where her parents say she lives.
  • 07-15-2013, 11:04 AM
    Disagreeable
    Re: Is It Possible to Get Empancipated
    Why don't you take her out for lunch.:wallbang:
  • 07-15-2013, 05:38 PM
    Roverrider
    Re: Is It Possible to Get Empancipated
    Is there any way she can move in with me then before 18? If my dad signs as legal guardian or something like that, anything at all?


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    No, she cannot be emancipated and she cannot move in with you and your family. Not until she is 18.

    NY does not have a statute for the emancipation of a minor. NY will, if the minor is already with the permission (express or explicit) of her parents living ON HER OWN (not with her boyfriend's family) and SUPPORTING HERSELF (not being supported by another family) occasionally recognize a minor as emancipation, but there is no statute by which she can go to court and come out emancipated. Nor will any state, even the ones who do have such statutes, emancipate a minor because they do not like the way their parents are treating them. Emancipation is not and never was intended to be a means for a minor to move out; it was and is intended to be a means by which a minor who is ALREADY living on their own for reasons beyond their control, can obtain legal protections.

    If the "not being allowed to eat" story is actual fact and not teenage exaggeration of "he's not letting me eat what I want to eat and instead is making me eat what the rest of the family eats", she can call CPS. But rest assured, even if CPS finds it necessary to remove her from the home, she will NOT be emancipated and she will NOT be allowed to live with you/your parents. She will be placed with other relatives, in foster care, or in a group home, but she will NOT be living with you.

    When she is 18, she can live anywhere she wants. Until then, she lives where her parents say she lives.

  • 07-15-2013, 05:43 PM
    cbg
    Re: Is It Possible to Get Empancipated
    No. There is no way she can move in with you before she's 18. Not unless her parents say she can. There is FAR more to legal guardianship than your dad signing something. Her parents would have to consent, for example.

    Once again, if the situation is really abusive and not just "I don't like the way my parents are treating me" then she can call CPS. If it's REALLY that bad, she'll take any means to get out. If she only wants out if she can leave the way she wants to and live at her boyfriend's house, then the situation can't really be that bad.
  • 07-15-2013, 05:45 PM
    LawResearcherMissy
    Re: Is It Possible to Get Empancipated
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    Is there any way she can move in with me then before 18? If my dad signs as legal guardian or something like that, anything at all?
    What part of "Her parents can sue your parents for interfering with how they raise their daughter" were you unclear on? What makes you think your Dad has any standing to go to court to gain guardianship of your girlfriend, over the objections of her parents?

    The answer, no matter how you phrase the question, is NO.

    If she is being abused, CALL CPS.
  • 07-15-2013, 07:38 PM
    Roverrider
    Re: Is It Possible to Get Empancipated
    Sorry that I didn't read every law book. Her parents aren't even raising her, they are trapping her in the house and mistreating her. If she does call CPS and gets taken out, she would not want to be thrown into a foster home or with some random group of strangers, which is why she hasn't called them

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    What part of "Her parents can sue your parents for interfering with how they raise their daughter" were you unclear on? What makes you think your Dad has any standing to go to court to gain guardianship of your girlfriend, over the objections of her parents?

    The answer, no matter how you phrase the question, is NO.

    If she is being abused, CALL CPS.

  • 07-15-2013, 09:27 PM
    EA1070a
    Re: Is It Possible to Get Empancipated
    The information you've received is all spot on, even if it's not what you wanted to hear.
  • 07-15-2013, 09:55 PM
    Disagreeable
    Re: Is It Possible to Get Empancipated
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    Quoting Roverrider
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    Is there any way she can move in with me then before 18? If my dad signs as legal guardian or something like that, anything at all?

    Pregnancy will put weight on her fast. I guess that was the move in plan?
  • 07-15-2013, 10:24 PM
    Lehk
    Re: Is It Possible to Get Empancipated
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    Quoting Roverrider
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    Is there any way she can move in with me then before 18? If my dad signs as legal guardian or something like that, anything at all?

    No.
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