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  • 06-07-2013, 05:30 PM
    Secondtimeoffense
    Habitual Shoplifting, Caught Twice Within Months
    My question involves criminal law for the state of: New Jersey.

    Hi. I was caught shopp lifting at dicks sporting goods a few weeks ago. I still haven't gone to court yet, but my court date is next week. I was caught with burglary tool, around 500$ of items and resisting arrest( I ran away).i do not expect it to go well. Today, I got caught again. Before I say this, I know it doesn't matter and I'm absolutely idiotic. I went to sears with my friends and my friends convinced me to shoplift again. I made up all excuses to not shoplift but I unfortunately committed the same act. I got got caught stealing cologne around 52$. But the manager added my friend's items and mine together , which came out to be 162$. He said we were are co conspirers. Both my friends are minors but I'm 18. Will I be screwed for the rest of my life? Will I face jail time? Is expungement even an option anymore? I know this is a stupid question, but I don't want to get my hopes up. Will the second shop lifting case drastically hurt me at the court hearing for my first case?

    Thank you for reading.

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    I'm sorry everyone. Title meant to say weeks, not months
  • 06-07-2013, 05:31 PM
    Disagreeable
    Re: Caught Twice Within a Few Months.
    Why yes, you likely will. You are part of an organized theft ring. It is clear you make a habit of this and finally got caught twice. You really need a lawyer.
  • 06-07-2013, 05:58 PM
    PandorasBox
    Re: Caught Twice Within a Few Months.
    Well, here's my story.

    I shoplifted one time to try to get out of living with my grandmother. First offense.

    4 years later, I can't even get a job doing Data Entry. So....$2500 between lawyer and all the fines and fees and civil demand. Add another $84,000 in lost income...

    You're young, you might get a McJob.
  • 06-07-2013, 06:29 PM
    Secondtimeoffense
    Re: Caught Twice Within a Few Months.
    How much did you steal? And are you planning to expunge your record?
  • 06-07-2013, 08:06 PM
    LawResearcherMissy
    Re: Caught Twice Within a Few Months.
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    How much did you steal? And are you planning to expunge your record?

    How much Pandy stole and whether she is eligible for expungement is irrelevant to your situation. Laws vary by state, and MI's are different from NJ's.

    The fact that you were caught again so quickly - and while awaiting a court date! - is going to weigh heavily against you. Additionally, while expungement MAY be an option after all is said and done, depending on what you're eventually convicted of, you can't apply for TEN YEARS after you complete your sentence or probation. Your first instance of getting caught up there is Grand Theft, a felony, and possession of a burglary tool is also a felony. So, for example, you get five years probation. Ten years after you complete your probation, you may be able to apply for an expungement. (Read more here.)

    It's way too early to worry about an expungement, pal. Right now, you need to worry about your court dates. Retain counsel. If you can't afford a private attorney, you need to plead Not Guilty in court and ask for a Public Defender.
  • 06-07-2013, 08:48 PM
    Secondtimeoffense
    Re: Caught Twice Within a Few Months.
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    Quoting LawResearcherMissy
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    How much Pandy stole and whether she is eligible for expungement is irrelevant to your situation. Laws vary by state, and MI's are different from NJ's.

    The fact that you were caught again so quickly - and while awaiting a court date! - is going to weigh heavily against you. Additionally, while expungement MAY be an option after all is said and done, depending on what you're eventually convicted of, you can't apply for TEN YEARS after you complete your sentence or probation. Your first instance of getting caught up there is Grand Theft, a felony, and possession of a burglary tool is also a felony. So, for example, you get five years probation. Ten years after you complete your probation, you may be able to apply for an expungement. (Read more here.)

    It's way too early to worry about an expungement, pal. Right now, you need to worry about your court dates. Retain counsel. If you can't afford a private attorney, you need to plead Not Guilty in court and ask for a Public Defender.


    I really appreciate the information. Thank you. And yes, I am fully aware I'm in a really bad situation. My court date for the dicks charge in next week. Tomorrow I'm signing up for volunteering and I'm also signing up for an online shoplifting help program that gives a certificate when completed. The volunteer work is to look good for the judge, but the help program is for self purposes( as I am aware I have a terrible problem). I am a good student with great extracurriculars but I know since I committed a crime, I'm just an ordinary criminal. Will the court be notified I was recently arrested? And will the charge be that much worse because of this second offense?
  • 06-07-2013, 08:49 PM
    Disagreeable
    Re: Caught Twice Within a Few Months.
    I realize you are really a screwed up individual, however, referring to yourself as a dick is a bit harsh.
  • 06-07-2013, 09:00 PM
    LawResearcherMissy
    Re: Caught Twice Within a Few Months.
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    Will the court be notified I was recently arrested?
    Of course it will be. And the court will not be happy to see you twice in quick succession.
  • 06-08-2013, 04:48 AM
    PandorasBox
    Re: Caught Twice Within a Few Months.
    Mine was one dress. I don't qualify for expungment for another 10 months. See how much shoplifting can cost you?

    You've done it twice....I hope my story will make you think before you go for a third charge.....
  • 06-08-2013, 08:16 AM
    bam!
    Re: Caught Twice Within a Few Months.
    For your first charge, they may not know of your second charge. Your second charge will definitely know about your first charge. See if your lawyer can combine both charges if possible. Good luck to you and stop stealing.
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