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  • 05-07-2013, 02:39 PM
    AJJ
    Whistleblower Form 211 and Filing Form SS-8
    Hello, I have a few questions about some forms I may be filing, I'll start with my SS-8 questions, I work for a company that treats us as subcontractors, the labor cabinet has already confirmed we are employee's and should be treated as such, they are actually in the middle of a huge investigation/lawsuit right now as previously posted, my questions are -

    can I file an SS-8 and get half of my taxes back that I paid on my employer's behalf for the past 3 years?

    Will I also get state and local taxes back or just federal?

    If my employer can't pay my taxes ( which he won't be able to, I'm sure ) will I still get the refund that is owed to me from the government?

    As far as the Whistleblower form 211, I already filled it out and everything and am ready to send it in, but I have gotten different answers from the IRS directly, two people said I could not remain anonymous, while one said I could. I know some information that would get a lot of people in trouble and possibly penalties and interest above $2 million, if they could get the money ( which I doubt they could get it all ) I would receive 30% for turning them in, but my main thing is, I really would need to remain anonymous, because two of the people that would be in trouble are into drug dealing and aren't the kind of people you want to really mess with, I have a family to think about.

    So my question is, is there anyway that I can remain anonymous and still file form 211? what if I filed it under an attorney? I know there is a form I can file that is anonymous but there is no reward in that, and I'd rather not risk myself even if I remain anonymous for no reward.

    My last two questions are, if the sum is below 2 million, I read somewhere that instead of 30% you only qualify for 15% and last question is,

    what if I was to give a false name and Social security number, I was told that as long as I could prove at a later date that I was the one to give the information, that I would still be responsible to get my reward, is this true?

    Thanks.
  • 05-09-2013, 09:32 AM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Whistleblower Form 211 and Filing Form SS-8
    If you want to get past tax payments refunded to you, discuss with your tax preparer the possibility of filing amended returns accompanied by Form 8919.

    Information on the IRS whistleblower informant program can be found here. If the employer has already been determined to have misclassified you (and other workers) and the matter is in litigation, I doubt that your report would come as news to the IRS.

    If you are considering trying to lie to the IRS about your name and SSN, retain a lawyer to advise you on the consequences - nobody here is going to tell you to lie about your identity or promise that when you later claim, "That was me, but I lied about who I was," the IRS will give you a penny of any award. You already know that there are two programs, and that the one for anonymous informants does not provide awards.
  • 05-09-2013, 04:00 PM
    AJJ
    Re: Whistleblower Form 211 and Filing Form SS-8
    I used H&R block as my tax preparer, they know nothing about taxes, they didn't even know what form SS-8 was, I won't be using H&R ever again, freaking ridiculous.

    As far as knowledge the IRS knows due to the investigation is far less than what I know, I know a lot more than the labor cabinet or IRS as far as tax evasion goes. So that is what I was planning on reporting, some of the things I knew, but I suspect the IRS will eventually find out since they will probably conduct their own investigation after the labor cabinet I suspect, I just figured since they'd find out anyway, it'd be cool to collect a small reward for telling them.
  • 05-10-2013, 09:12 AM
    Bubba Jimmy
    Re: Whistleblower Form 211 and Filing Form SS-8
    H&R Block, as a company, employs over 100,000 people and many of them are Enrolled Agents. What you got was an ignorant tax preparer employed by H&R Block. They did a poor job matching you with a tax preparer with the requisite skills necessary to handle the complexity of your situation. It's not that their company is "bad", it's just that you had a mismatch. Not everyone walking through their doors has your complexity.

    I'm an enrolled agent in my own practice, and 95% of tax filers don't need my level of expertise, nor would they want to pay for it. Look at it this way. You went to a general practitioner when you needed heart surgery. Cheap, but not very effective.
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