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  • 04-28-2013, 07:54 PM
    YellowBird112
    How Did They Get Anyone to Consent to Be Recorded on to Catch a Predator
    https://www.google.com/search?sugexp...edator+FLORIDA

    Both parties have to consent to the recording of a conversation in FL and many states. HOW THE HECK did they get ANYONE to appear on this show?!
  • 04-28-2013, 08:03 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: How Did They Get Anyone to Consent to Be Recorded on to Catch a Predator
    You'll notice that during a criminal investigation, the rules are quite, quite different.

    Think undercover.
  • 04-28-2013, 08:13 PM
    adjusterjack
    Re: How Did They Get Anyone to Consent to Be Recorded on to Catch a Predator
    In all but the first couple of shows they had police involvement which means it's possible that they obtained court orders allowing the taping without the consent or knowledge of the suspect.

    It's also possible (I haven't checked) that the first couple of shows (without police participation) were done in one party consent states.

    And some all party consent states have exceptions for recording a crime in progress.
  • 04-28-2013, 08:40 PM
    YellowBird112
    Re: How Did They Get Anyone to Consent to Be Recorded on to Catch a Predator
    But I do not understand how they are able to make money of a person's image without that person's consent.

    I thought it went like this:
    I take a photo of you. It's on the street in NYC. You are recognizable. I do not get a release but you're in public with no expectation of privacy. I can use that image as long as I don't make money from it, but, if and when I sell that image--- I need your consent.

    Right? Wrong?

    These guys were in "private" homes. I would think there would be an expectation of privacy?
  • 04-28-2013, 08:41 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: How Did They Get Anyone to Consent to Be Recorded on to Catch a Predator
    They weren't in private homes - they were part of sting operations. And there's no expectation of privacy during the commission of a crime.

    Have you ever watched ID channel?
  • 04-28-2013, 08:53 PM
    adjusterjack
    Re: How Did They Get Anyone to Consent to Be Recorded on to Catch a Predator
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    But I do not understand how they are able to make money of a person's image without that person's consent.

    I thought it went like this:
    I take a photo of you. It's on the street in NYC. You are recognizable. I do not get a release but you're in public with no expectation of privacy. I can use that image as long as I don't make money from it, but, if and when I sell that image--- I need your consent.

    Right? Wrong?

    These guys were in "private" homes. I would think there would be an expectation of privacy?

    You're comparing apples to oranges.

    Your comparison fails.
  • 04-28-2013, 09:08 PM
    YellowBird112
    Re: How Did They Get Anyone to Consent to Be Recorded on to Catch a Predator
    Actually, no. I don't have a TV. I'm one of those people.

    The first were all done in one party states. Makes sense now. I didn't realize that one and two party consent also applies to video.

    Along (sorta) the same lines, this is interesting.
    http://http://www.wired.com/threatle...-legal-attack/
  • 04-28-2013, 09:25 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: How Did They Get Anyone to Consent to Be Recorded on to Catch a Predator
    Video is actually easier to legally record - it's audio that makes the whole thing tricky.

    But again, you seem to be missing a major point here. Well, two. The first is the expectation of privacy - well, ya kinda throw that one out when you're committing a crime.

    The second though, is that once again, the rules for criminal investigations are completely different.
  • 06-04-2013, 12:35 AM
    Joe Wagner
    Re: How Did They Get Anyone to Consent to Be Recorded on to Catch a Predator
    You do realize there is no such thing as "Reality Tv"? All it is is todays version of Pro wrestling. It is all 100% staged and pre-rehearsed.
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