Will My Support be Lowered if the Custodial Parent Moves In With Her Boyfriend

My question involves child support in the State of: Michigan

I have a ten year old (almost 11) year old daughter with BM. I have her half the time, but according to the state it doesn’t count because I only have about 115 overnights. (I got screwed out of 50/50 when I moved back to MI from Nashville with my parents-I was forced to move there for a few years because I was not working, and they moved there and I had no where to live)
I had arrears I was paying (because BM refused to forgive them), and just recently finished after they took my tax refund. BM demanded I pay her back for half of a school trip my daughter took, I told her she could take it out of my tax refund she stole, but that I was not going to hand her $100 cash when she can’t prove she spends it on my daughter. She went ballistic. She said that that tax refund money was to pay her back (as if I really owed her anything!! She is so entitled!!), not for current expense. She says she will file to increase my child support. It finally went down to $180/month, from $300, I was planning on using the extra money to do things with my daughter.
She just moved in with her boyfriend, won’t that lower my support? Can I get more custody because of that? She got really defensive when I mentioned her boyfriend, so I know she is scared. She makes almost 40 grand a year, plus his income now, she doesn’t need my money at all, and I am barely getting by!!!! And she want’s MORE?????

What are my chances that the court will see her boyfriend moving in right when my arrears are paid, and then filing for support she doesn’t need as the money grab it is? I am fine with supporting my daughter, but I WILL NOT SUPPORT HIM. All she cares about is money, I wish I could get custody, but they took my 50% away when I moved and would not give it back to me, i am an involved dad!!

Uh...you're making Mom out to be the bad guy here...why? She didn't "steal" your tax refund. If you'd paid on time what you owed, you won't be in arrears. That's hardly Mom's fault now is it?

No, it won't lower your support. Mom could marry Bill Gates, and YOUR obligation will not change.

And here's the really fun part. As long as kiddo has a roof over her head, food in her belly and clothes on her back? Mom can spend every single cent of that child support on her boyfriend if she wants to.

What do you mean she can spend it on her boyfriend? If she won't use it for my daughter, why can;t she come live with me? I have a house, not a crummy apartment like she does.

Because child support is essentially aimed at reimbursing the monies the CP has already spent on the child. You know, rent/mortgage, food, utilities, clothing, transportation.

And seriously dude - $180/month is nothing. Really.

My daughter does not eat that much! shouldn't BM be supporting her, too? She buys her clearance and thrift store clothing!

she makes almost 40 grand a year, like twice what I make.

Get a better job, another job, or downsize.

Mom IS supporting her. Y'know, providing that roof over her head. Feeding her. Clothing her.

Why do I get the distinct impression you're either Mom trying to find out disgruntled Dad's side of things, or Dad's new wife/girlfriend/whatever?

Whatever. he shouldn't be indebted to this woman because she cheated on him!! you don;t know anything.

How does having bipolar disorder and posing ads on craigslist casual encounters make somoene a better parent?

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Whatever. he shouldn't be indebted to this woman because she cheated on him!! you don;t know anything.

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Damn, I'm good. :cool:

So. By your logic, this poor child should suffer because Dad is pissed at Mom? Uh huh.

Honey, let me tell you something. He's going to do the EXACT same thing to you if you get pregnant. Leopards, spots, all that.

she lied and took away his 50% custody when he came back to Michigan two years ago. He has her half the time, but doesn;t even get credit for it. He begged her to forgive the arrearge so he could come up and get her for his visitation, but he had to buy her a plane ticket because she threatened to get him arrested if he came to MI.

He should not have to pay support if he has her half the time, even if it's not overnight. He picks her up from school, and her job is more important to her than their kid.

ARE you kidding about if I get pregnant? He's willing to marry me even if im not pregnant, because I don;t weigh 200 pounds!!! And I won;t cheat on him with 20 people!

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Damn, I'm good. :cool:

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You really really are.

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she lied and took away his 50% custody when he came back to Michigan two years ago. He has her half the time, but doesn;t even get credit for it. He begged her to forgive the arrearge so he could come up and get her for his visitation, but he had to buy her a plane ticket because she threatened to get him arrested if he came to MI.

He should not have to pay support if he has her half the time, even if it's not overnight. He picks her up from school, and her job is more important to her than their kid.

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Overnights MATTER. She didn't "take away" anything. The court did that. I mean gee, she goes out and works a $40k job to support her kid.

And Dad does..what, exactly?

The law cares not about what you or he think should or shouldn't be.

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Whatever. he shouldn't be indebted to this woman because she cheated on him!! you don;t know anything.

How does having bipolar disorder and posing ads on craigslist casual encounters make somoene a better parent?

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Oh you edited!

Do you have ANY clue as to how many parents with bipolar have SOLE custody of their kids?

Any clue at all?

A teensy weensy clue-ette, maybe? (hopefully?)

He works a job that is flexible to take care of his daughter and his disabled father.

Her mother got her that job, he isn;t as fortunate.

If she is supporting her boyfriend, too , how can she ask for MORE support?

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He works a job that is flexible to take care of his daughter and his disabled father.

Her mother got her that job, he isn;t as fortunate.

If she is supporting her boyfriend, too , how can she ask for MORE support?

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It depends on what Dad is capable of earning in the eyes of the court.

$20k/year? Is that part time? (Yes, there's a reason I'm asking)

9-2, five days a week. He has to share a car with his parents.

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9-2, five days a week. He has to share a car with his parents.

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So if mom files for a modification she can ask the court to impute wages based on earning ability working 40 hours a week. Her relationship status matters not one iota. Neither does his, FWIW.

You need to butt out of this. Your hostility will only serve to make the situation worse, especially if you're having any contact whatsoever with mom. I also get the distinct feeling that you're getting dad all riled up.

This is none of your business or concern. What he's paying now is peanuts. You can't feed a 10 yo on $180 a month, let alone pay for much of anything else. He pays $6 a day for his kid. That's nothing!

He has her half the time!!!! why should he pay anything? She has food at his house, and a nicer place to live. How does being a whore make you a good parent? Is that why she needs to get paid?

She wants to settle for $350, I think she's crazy, the calculator we used works out to 131 (her 2100 net, him 1100 net) http://www.miestimator.com/

She is better off in a stable enviroment. She has emotional issues and has a special program at school. When he tried to pick her up early when he moved back, they called HER! Doesn't he have equal rights to her?

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He has her half the time!!!! why should he pay anything? She has food at his house, and a nicer place to live. How does being a whore make you a good parent? Is that why she needs to get paid?

She wants to settle for $350, I think she's crazy, the calculator we used works out to 131 (her 2100 net, him 1100 net) http://www.miestimator.com/

She is better off in a stable enviroment. She has emotional issues and has a special program at school. When he tried to pick her up early when he moved back, they called HER! Doesn't he have equal rights to her?

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Reality check:

He's going to be imputed an income equal to full time.

No, he DOESN'T have equal rights to her, because she's the custodial parent. He does NOT have her "half the time".

And yeah, what EA said.

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And before you ask no, the court is NOT going to modify custody unless there's a damn good reason for doing so. Wanting to pay less child support ain't going to wash.

He pays too much as it is!!!
How can she have it go up again just because she wants money for her boyfriend?

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He pays too much as it is!!!

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No, no he doesn't.

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How can she have it go up again just because she wants money for her boyfriend?

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The court will decide whether or not a modification of CS is necessary.

You need to step back. About a gazillion paces. Why he can't manage his business himself is beyond me.

she keeps threatening to raise his support! How is he supposed to support HIMSELF?

Dog, you have the patience of an angel! You only explained it about five times now. :/

By putting on his big boy pants and getting a full time job.

A gf who doesn't call his child's mother a whore would also be a good start.

$6 a day is squat. Jack. Nada. It's a joke.

And CS calculations are typically based on gross income. Not net.

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she keeps threatening to raise his support! How is he supposed to support HIMSELF?

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I actually just ran the numbers. He's LUCKY to be getting away with $180 - because at full time wages it'd be substantially more.

How does he support himself? Get another job? Downsize? Marry a sugar momma?

Not my problem, and certainly not MOM'S problem.

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Dog, you have the patience of an angel! You only explained it about five times now. :/

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My halo is tarnished, and slipping.

But thank you ;) :D

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By putting on his big boy pants and getting a full time job.

A gf who doesn't call his child's mother a whore would also be a good start.

$6 a day is squat. Jack. Nada. It's a joke.

And CS calculations are typically based on gross income. Not net.

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The calculator said net. She's slept with more than 40 guys, she admitted it, she laughed about it!!

What else would you call that? She takes his money and doesn't even spend it on his daughter, she shops on clearance and thrift shops. She even says she doesn't have to spend it on her!! His daughter deserves better. He can give her a better life.

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The calculator said net. She's slept with more than 40 guys, she admitted it, she laughed about it!!

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And that makes her a bad parent...how?

<crickets chirping>

<tumbleweeds>

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What else would you call that? She takes his money and doesn't even spend it on his daughter, she shops on clearance and thrift shops.

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How is buying her clothing not spending it on her?

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She even says she doesn't have to spend it on her!!

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That's her right.

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His daughter deserves better. He can give her a better life.

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LOL okay, he can give her a better life on half the wages Mom earns?

Your math is off, sweety.

And for everyone else? I have just made the most amazing scientific discovery.

The male version of the ICANTYPE gene is automatically eliminated when the male's semen impregnates a woman.

Apparently.

Or maybe that's the DONWANNAPAYCS gene?

Huh.

(I know there are many, many, MANY responsible fathers and many, many, MANY irresponsible mothers. Neither applies to this case though)

;)

If it were fair, SHE would have to pay child support!

he has a better place to live, lives closer to her school, and has more time for her.

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If it were fair, SHE would have to pay child support!

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I'm going to type this out really slowly. K?

She. Is. Already. Supporting. Her. Child.

Oh - and whoever told you that life was fair? Go up to them and kick them right in the danglies. They were wrong. :cool:

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I'm going to type this out really slowly. K?

She. Is. Already. Supporting. Her. Child.

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Yeah, with HIS money! why can't HE support her with HIS money instead? If she isn't going to be around, SHE can pay support!

180 a month child support?

is that the deadbeat dad special?

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180 a month child support?

is that the deadbeat dad special?

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she makes twice what he does!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aktLRiWXfqg

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Yeah, with HIS money! why can't HE support her with HIS money instead? If she isn't going to be around, SHE can pay support!

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Look, little Ms Nunya-Troll. $180 is a paltry amount. She's supporting that child with her wages, and whatever else she's bringing into the child's home. Dad's pitiful CS, boyfriend's wages, whatever. She's around, alright.

Now. Get off the computer, soothe your ego somewhere and help your ... whatever he is to you ... pay his child support if he can't afford it.

@Lehk. Verra verra speshul. ;)

The video explains it all. Which one are you? Just how many forums are you trolling this on? I know of 2 so far.

He's around to pick her up from school, but she won't let him!
Why should I pay his child support? He shouldn't be paying her at all, I would be 50 times the mother she is(And I would be home!!!)

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He's around to pick her up from school, but she won't let him!
Why should I pay his child support? He shouldn't be paying her at all, I would be 50 times the mother she is(And I would be home!!!)

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Have you ever been on Hardcore Pawn?

(And because I'm a bit bored waiting for my bestie to fly in, and before I start a movie with my other fwend, I went and looked up the actual math)

Average cost of raising child from 0-12 in the midwest: $8600/year (and that is a VERY low estimate).

Now. Half of that would be $4300/year (1/2 for each parent, right?). That comes out to about $360 a month, give or take a couple of bucks.

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He's around to pick her up from school, but she won't let him!
Why should I pay his child support? He shouldn't be paying her at all, I would be 50 times the mother she is(And I would be home!!!)

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Why should Mom's boyfriend's income be figured in?

And honeypie, you're no mother. Really.

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(And now I'm convinced that either we're being trolled, or this is actually Mom posting)

(Because truly nobody would be this dense)

Why should she have a payday at his expense when she cheated on him?
she should just give him custody if she doesn't want to be a parent.

Dog - what happens when you microwave grapes?

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Dog - what happens when you microwave grapes?

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plasma (and likely a broken microwave)

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Dog - what happens when you microwave grapes?

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Plasma, my friend.

Plasma!

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Why should she have a payday at his expense when she cheated on him?

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Soooo...because she cheated (and I'm understanding why...), their mutual CHILD should suffer? You never did answer that 'un.

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she should just give him custody if she doesn't want to be a parent.

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Apparently she's about 10000% more of a parent than he is.

Yer welcome!

I am not dense! I just don't think it's right that he has to pay her support when she doesn't spend it on his daughter and has some guy move in.