How Long Can the Police Follow You Without Ticketing You

My question involves police conduct in the State of: TN

I am hoping this is the right section, I am trying to figure out whats on the tennessee books about police jurisdiction. Like an officer arresting or giving tickets a city away or a county deputy in another part of the state entirely. I am also curious if an officer is in pursuit if he doesn't hit his lights until a mile or so after trailing you?

There won't be a limit "on the books" for how long a police officer can follow you without ticketing you. While another jurisdiction's police force may expect a courtesy heads-up about them coming into "their" jurisdiction, that's not something the citizen need worry about.

"I am also curious if an officer is in pursuit if he doesn't hit his lights until a mile or so after trailing you?"

This isn't a decipherable question, but I gather you're thinking there's something questionable about this. There isn't, legally speaking.

Even if there is a territorial jurisdiction issue, it does not prohibit an officer from following you outside of their territory. Once outside their territory, they, as any person in Tennessee has, the right to arrest, even without being endowed with actual police powers.


this is an excerpt from http://openjurist.org/110/f3d/64/sis...unty-tennessee

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A police officer acting beyond his or her authority may use the citizen's arrest statute to validate an otherwise unlawful arrest. In State of Tennessee v. Johnson, 661 S.W.2d 854 (Tenn.1983), cert. denied, 476 U.S. 1130 (1986), the Tennessee Supreme Court applied T.C.A. § 40-7-109 to the actions of a sheriff's deputy who effected a warrantless arrest of a defendant outside his jurisdiction. Using the citizen's arrest statute as a savings provision, the court upheld the arrest. Id. at 859. It found that, even if the deputy was limited to the authority of a private person, he was authorized to arrest the defendant under T.C.A. § 40-7-109(a). Id. In United States v. Layne, 6 F.3d 396, 398-99 (6th Cir.1993), cert. denied, 114 S.Ct. 1374 (1994), the court followed Johnson and held that an arrest made by Tennessee police officers outside their jurisdiction, when predicated on probable cause, did not violate the Fourth Amendment because the officer's actions were authorized as a citizen's arrest.

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Tennessee law authorizes arrests by private persons. T.C.A. § 40-7-101(3). A private person may arrest another:

10(1) For a public offense committed in his presence;

11(2) When the person arrested has committed a felony, although not in his presence; or

12(3) When a felony has been committed, and he has reasonable cause to believe that the person arrested committed it.

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well my question is about jurisdictional division in tennessee primarily and IDK why the title of the thread was changed. I know in some states a city cop is a cop everywhere, a county deputy is too, theres a one mile buffer zone of jurisdictional overlap, stuff like that. I wanted to know the legal statute of issuing tickets for a municipal court, there was no arrestable offense, just tickets and go to their city court. i wanted to know if an officer from town b can see me in town b not doing anything then bright light me in town A after finding something later on? id like to read the state statute.. i cant seem to find it for tenn though.

You're looking at this from the wrong end. It's not that there is a law that says an office can do this; it's that there isn't a law that says he can't.

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Quoting Foster_Foster

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There won't be a limit "on the books" for how long a police officer can follow you without ticketing you. While another jurisdiction's police force may expect a courtesy heads-up about them coming into "their" jurisdiction, that's not something the citizen need worry about.

"I am also curious if an officer is in pursuit if he doesn't hit his lights until a mile or so after trailing you?"

This isn't a decipherable question, but I gather you're thinking there's something questionable about this. There isn't, legally speaking.

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i mean what is the status of ou interaction without the blue lights? If they keep following me wherever i go with no lights on do i have to stop? if I try to get away from them before the lights get hit am i running from the police? if he waits to hit his lights into another city's limit did he wait too long to make his move?

Now im not coming at you guys with no understanding of this. I knew about the statute you guys posted and about the hot pursuit rule and it being a felony, blah blah. i also know that when our city officers had taken chase of two men in a car a month or so ago and those men made it into the county the officers kept following them but when they made it to a surrounding county they were told to stop following them and other officers either from that county or our county had to take over the chase even though they werent in a position to swifty take over the pursuit and had to run back into them later that night.. When there was an incident at a house on this same road i got followed on those people called the police and town A's cops were sent over. But the house is inches away from the city line and town B's PD HQ was WAY closer. Dispatch did not send them to handle it though. So there are mixed signals and I have been paying attention to that..

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Quoting cbg

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You're looking at this from the wrong end. It's not that there is a law that says an office can do this; it's that there isn't a law that says he can't.

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then ill break it down further and leave less room to get technical, what is an officer outside of his jurisdiction? your going to say if he sees something hes acting in the capacity of a citizen making a citizens arrest. im going to come back and say how do you make a citizens arrest when there was no arrestable offense? Your going to probably say I dont know then im going to say "although there is such a thing as a citizens arrest there is no such a thing as a "citizen officer" so did I have the authority to turn down his ticket to a municipal court in a town he didn't even make the stop in..?"

Then I am going to raise the point that he chose to put on the ticket a road thats in his city instead of where I was bluelighted on which was about a mile or so further.. And there are plenty of witnesses and camera footage from businesses showing where the stop and blue lights came on..

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Quoting Another Demise

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If they keep following me wherever i go with no lights on do i have to stop?

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If the officer is making no attempt to stop you, then no you don't. But he is free to follow you around.

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Quoting Another Demise

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if I try to get away from them before the lights get hit am i running from the police?

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Not likely. Any traffic offenses you commit while trying to get away can be charged.

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Quoting Another Demise

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if he waits to hit his lights into another city's limit did he wait too long to make his move?

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No, he did not wait too long. If you committed the violation in his jurisdiction, it generally matters not if he doesn't light you up until you are in another. He could be running you, calling the stop into dispatch or requesting back up.

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i also know that when our city officers had taken chase of two men in a car a month or so ago and those men made it into the county the officers kept following them but when they made it to a surrounding county they were told to stop following them and other officers either from that county or our county had to take over the chase even though they werent in a position to swifty take over the pursuit and had to run back into them later that night.

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That was likely a decision by the pursuing agency that may have had little, or nothing, to do with jurisdiction rather depending on the full facts, which we don't have. Possibly because the agency didn't want their officers running all over the state instead of answering calls in their jurisdiction.

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When there was an incident at a house on this same road i got followed on those people called the police and town A's cops were sent over. But the house is inches away from the city line and town B's PD HQ was WAY closer. Dispatch did not send them to handle it though. So there are mixed signals and I have been paying attention to that..

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It matters not that Town B's HQ is closer for a couple reasons. First, the call is going to go to the agency that is primarily responsible for that jurisdiction first. Second, many times there aren't any actual officers chilling out at HQ. They are on the road so HQ's proximity is irrelevant.

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Then I am going to raise the point that he chose to put on the ticket a road thats in his city instead of where I was bluelighted on which was about a mile or so further.. And there are plenty of witnesses and camera footage from businesses showing where the stop and blue lights came on..

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The location on the ticket is where the offense occurred, not the location of the stop.

And jurisdiction these days is nowhere near the problem that it used to be - with a mountain of "Memoranda of Understanding" in every agency's files, and many officers being cross-sworn, the days of some political lines within a single state having significant impact in the enforcement of law are tantamount to meaningless anymore.

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Quoting cbg

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You're looking at this from the wrong end. It's not that there is a law that says an office can do this; it's that there isn't a law that says he can't.

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That's not the right way to look at it .... but the law clearly says he can follow you...

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And jurisdiction these days is nowhere near the problem that it used to be - with a mountain of "Memoranda of Understanding" in every agency's files, and many officers being cross-sworn, the days of some political lines within a single state having significant impact in the enforcement of law are tantamount to meaningless anymore.

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yeah, exactly why that is just what i called and asked the Town A PD receptionist or dispatch or whoever they wired me to. she wouldnt answer the question when i kept hounding her own it, she just said "its fine" that they pulled me over without explaining the jist of how or why.

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Quoting free9man

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If the officer is making no attempt to stop you, then no you don't. But he is free to follow you around.

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I agree.

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Not likely. Any traffic offenses you commit while trying to get away can be charged.

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how am i getting away if I am not blue lighted, barked orders over an intercom or hes not hand gesturing me? Just as he can stalk technically I can keep trying to go places where I don't have him on my back bumper, technically.. ?

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No, he did not wait too long. If you committed the violation in his jurisdiction, it generally matters not if he doesn't light you up until you are in another. He could be running you, calling the stop into dispatch or requesting back up.

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About the only time I have not seen back up for his PD was this stop. Usually any encounter leads to back up and back up for back up, and then maybe a 3rd officer and a county guy.. Back up never came. When I got loud with him back up didnt come, when I wouldn't put the window down all the way back up didnt come.. If hes running somebody and it takes him so long to the point that we are 1 or 2 miles on down and he has no arrestable offense did he have the authority to make me sign the citation?

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That was likely a decision by the pursuing agency that may have had little, or nothing, to do with jurisdiction rather depending on the full facts, which we don't have. Possibly because the agency didn't want their officers running all over the state instead of answering calls in their jurisdiction.

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The news paper pretty much said everything. they radioed the chief to tell him they were entering the county, then radioed again to say the neighboring county, they told them to leave it alone from that point, either are county or their county had to pick them up driving again like 30 or 45 minutes later after a search. They didn't take over the chase, they sent the county deputies in that area to find them after they stopped. thats what the paper said.
And another city cop from another city had ran my dealer tags once, said they were bad but still followed me for OVER 4 miles and would not blue light me until we were right on his city / county line..

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It matters not that Town B's HQ is closer for a couple reasons. First, the call is going to go to the agency that is primarily responsible for that jurisdiction first. Second, many times there aren't any actual officers chilling out at HQ. They are on the road so HQ's proximity is irrelevant.

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Our dispatch person is the same person for both cities and the county i believe. I am 1 million percent sure its the same for all the cities though..

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The location on the ticket is where the offense occurred, not the location of the stop.

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okay so what does he have an ulimited amount of time to issue tickets? Could he issue it 14 years later if he had kept the info that long? My core position is the crime ceased to exist after I left his city without incident. My position is if he did run the tags and they did not give him the information back soon enough thats his problem and not mine. Further, if he had the information before I left and continued to trail for that long he forfeited his right to reassert it. My last point is with a mere traffic citation that did not warrant an arrest in any context he did not have the core logic of a citizen's arrest to even use as a saving grace. I could had simply walkin off and probably should had..

I don't think you could be any more wrong if you tried.

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yeah, exactly why that is just what i called and asked the Town A PD receptionist or dispatch or whoever they wired me to. she wouldnt answer the question when i kept hounding her own it, she just said "its fine" that they pulled me over without explaining the jist of how or why.

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It's not her job to explain it to you. It's likely she doesn't have the knowledge/expertise to do so in a way that is both understandable to you and legally correct.

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how am i getting away if I am not blue lighted, barked orders over an intercom or hes not hand gesturing me? Just as he can stalk technically I can keep trying to go places where I don't have him on my back bumper, technically.. ?

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You used the words "getting away" first, not me. I meant that if you break any laws such as speeding, running stop signs, etc...the officer is free to cite you for them.

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If hes running somebody and it takes him so long to the point that we are 1 or 2 miles on down and he has no arrestable offense did he have the authority to make me sign the citation?

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Yes, he had the authority. Stop being thick. You commit an offense in his presence, he is free to pursue you in order to stop you. It's the doctrine of hot pursuit, which need not be an actual "hot" pursuit. From the sounds of your encounters with law enforcement, you have an obvious problem with them in general and go out of your way to agitate situations.

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The news paper pretty much said everything. they radioed the chief to tell him they were entering the county, then radioed again to say the neighboring county, they told them to leave it alone from that point, either are county or their county had to pick them up driving again like 30 or 45 minutes later after a search. They didn't take over the chase, they sent the county deputies in that area to find them after they stopped. thats what the paper said.

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I see nothing in there that says it was anything other than a departmental decision with no mention of jurisdiction, possibly based on liability. If the people being pursued weren't serious bad guys, it's best to let them go and catch up another time.

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And another city cop from another city had ran my dealer tags once, said they were bad but still followed me for OVER 4 miles and would not blue light me until we were right on his city / county line..

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Well, that was his decision. He found your tags were bad and waited to stop you in his jurisdiction, at which time your tags WERE STILL BAD. That's all the reason he needs to stop you.

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Our dispatch person is the same person for both cities and the county i believe. I am 1 million percent sure its the same for all the cities though..

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It makes ZERO difference how many they work for. The county dispatch center where I am handles calls for the county and 5 cities. They don't send someone from city A to city B to handle calls. Calls go to the the department with primary responsibility for a jurisdiction first. They aren't going to call someone from another jurisdiction unless it's requested or there is an MOU in effect.

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okay so what does he have an ulimited amount of time to issue tickets?

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They have until the SOL expires for the offense in question. An officer could witness an infraction and mail you a ticket for it 2 weeks later if they wanted.

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Could he issue it 14 years later if he had kept the info that long?

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No, because traffic offenses have a much shorter SOL.

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My core position is the crime ceased to exist after I left his city without incident.

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Your core position is so absurd and wrong my mind hurts. A crime does not cease to exist simply because you left the jurisdiction prior to a stop being initiated. My goodness, that is silly. Taking that logic to its extreme, so long as a murderer makes it to another jurisdiction without being caught...he's home free!

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My position is if he did run the tags and they did not give him the information back soon enough thats his problem and not mine.

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You would be wrong.

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Further, if he had the information before I left and continued to trail for that long he forfeited his right to reassert it.

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No, he did not. He has up until the SOL expires to use the information he has.

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My last point is with a mere traffic citation that did not warrant an arrest in any context he did not have the core logic of a citizen's arrest to even use as a saving grace. I could had simply walkin off and probably should had..

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Had you attempted to leave, you could have found yourself being placed under arrest and rightfully so. He doesn't need to meet the burden of a citizen's arrest because that wasn't what he was doing.

I'll say it again...stop being thick.

If you take the time to look at AnotDem's posting history you will find more than a few examples of what can only described as either an absence of (important?) meds, or an overabundance of (important?) meds.

It would seem that there's a wild imagination and lot of freetime in play also.

All I can say is :wallbang:

Yeah, I know. The sad part is that in reviewing his post hx, I found myself warning other to review his post hx. :wallbang:

What works best for me after posts like these is Advil Migraine! :cool:

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If you take the time to look at AnotDem's posting history you will find more than a few examples of what can only described as either an absence of (important?) meds, or an overabundance of (important?) meds.

It would seem that there's a wild imagination and lot of freetime in play also.

All I can say is :wallbang:

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your not a comedian, quit cracking wise.

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Quoting Another Demise

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your not a comedian, quit cracking wise.

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I wasn't! Your history is self-evident.

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I wasn't! Your history is self-evident.

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Forget history, its all in the name... No disrespect intended, of course!

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Forget history, its all in the name... No disrespect intended, of course!

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its a quote from the band Finger Eleven on a theme they did for a pro wrestling theme dude.. Who do u think you are with your sig quote, trying to be Mark Twain or something lol

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I wasn't! Your history is self-evident.

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if you want the run down on my issue with the department just ask, its only like two things.. I mean that incident when they said I wasn't wearing my seat belt when I was and conveniently didn't have the camera on until a point was because they saw my mom in the front seat with me and thought she was some white whore and thought they had me ridin dirty or something. Thats the actual catalyst for that stop, I did go to jail over that for being suspended but I hold no animosity towards the county even though that was dusty of them, but thats off topic..

The main source of my fury stems from the van incident. I'm poor, im young, about homeless. I didn't need them telling me my van getting jacked was a civil issue when I knew it wasn't. I didnt need them pulling a gun on me because i had a bat to defend myself against some dumb clown who was 4 of me and about 6'4 to my 5'11.. I didnt need the county magristrate to tell me to take it to civil court so civil court can demand 118 dollars I dont have. This is all compounded by the fact that my cousin who was an ADA in Davidson Co. (Nashville) is telling me she doesnt understand why this dumb country bumpkin magristrate is telling me to go civil. She was Chicago PD, her husband was too, hes a Sgt. with Nashville, my uncle was a Detective for Charleston, SC in the '70s, and when I left the court today after telling the city court judge I wanted it dismissed the bailiff who opened the door was my uncle so don't even go there with me. If you have a question with my history or my beliefs or grudges you need to ask, not try your hand at stand up. I told the judge my belief about the jurisdictional stuff, he wasn't gawking at me like you two, so you both need to talk that bs to the cleaners man. No one didn't disrespect you. I come here because people are knowledgeable and I have faith in their insight, I don't need to read you trying your best to get me pumped up like you about have..

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I don't think you could be any more wrong if you tried.

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well we want know until a judge says it will we?

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It's not her job to explain it to you. It's likely she doesn't have the knowledge/expertise to do so in a way that is both understandable to you and legally correct.

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She was who I was forwarded to you and what purpose does it serve to be all vague to a yes or no question? She sounded like an uninformed bimbo.

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You used the words "getting away" first, not me. I meant that if you break any laws such as speeding, running stop signs, etc...the officer is free to cite you for them.

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it was a bad choice of words.. I didn't mean haul ass into the night, just that I didn't want to be in his presence..

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Yes, he had the authority. Stop being thick. You commit an offense in his presence, he is free to pursue you in order to stop you. It's the doctrine of hot pursuit, which need not be an actual "hot" pursuit. From the sounds of your encounters with law enforcement, you have an obvious problem with them in general and go out of your way to agitate situations.

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Eh, its just that one department, St. troopers, the county, the cops in the city I ended up in, they're okay. I don't need officers to say they didn't see seat belts when I know they were on, I don't need to be arrested while protecting my property. They can leave a bath taste in my mouth, you can be a wanna be or a cop booster or whatever and that will be our respective viewpoints, k? I am a man, I can be pushed to the brink like any man, threats of being PITed or fired upon are things I'm not to moved by..

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I see nothing in there that says it was anything other than a departmental decision with no mention of jurisdiction, possibly based on liability. If the people being pursued weren't serious bad guys, it's best to let them go and catch up another time.

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Do you want me to track the newspaper article? http://www.local8now.com/home/headlines/5245176.html thats the story right there. The parkway they terminated the chase on his huge, 99 percent deserted at that hour and would lead him to an area that was just county then to a neighboring county. The news story on the tv said more but still i guess you can chew on that..


Well, that was his decision. He found your tags were bad and waited to stop you in his jurisdiction, at which time your tags WERE STILL BAD. That's all the reason he needs to stop you.



It makes ZERO difference how many they work for. The county dispatch center where I am handles calls for the county and 5 cities. They don't send someone from city A to city B to handle calls. Calls go to the the department with primary responsibility for a jurisdiction first. They aren't going to call someone from another jurisdiction unless it's requested or there is an MOU in effect.




They have until the SOL expires for the offense in question. An officer could witness an infraction and mail you a ticket for it 2 weeks later if they wanted.



No, because traffic offenses have a much shorter SOL.

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Your core position is so absurd and wrong my mind hurts. A crime does not cease to exist simply because you left the jurisdiction prior to a stop being initiated. My goodness, that is silly. Taking that logic to its extreme, so long as a murderer makes it to another jurisdiction without being caught...he's home free!

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Dont take it to the extreme or out of context. A murder is a crime, a felony, and anybody can arrest him for it, it doesnt matter if its you where ever you live, some cop in American Samoa, a Coast Guardsman in U.S. waters. His crime never goes away, it violates state, county, city, and federal law.. And it doesn't matter what court its dealt with in. Its an arrestable offense under all circumstances. My point is if he didn't have an arrestable offense, he didn't know yet he had two good citations, why did i have to accept a ticket from an Alcoa officer in Maryville if his citation wasn't even sending me to Maryville and it wasn't even sending me to General Sessions in the county? Your saying it doesn't matter where im at but if he was just driving around say Nashville, TN and somehow thought he should run my tags would the man issue me a citation for his municipal court, or say Nashville court? My point or what I was asking I guess is if I had the right to refuse his citation? Whats the reason for running random tags anyways if a cop can't run people in his computer for the fun of it? He couldn't explain why he even ran them them and I demanded to know. Seemed dumbfounded and offended..

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I'll say it again...stop being thick.

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thick is subjective..

Okay, I'm gonna waste my time one more time on your stubborn hide and that's it. You aren't even capable of basic reading comprehension.

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well we want know until a judge says it will we?

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He's gonna say you're wrong.

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She was who I was forwarded to you and what purpose does it serve to be all vague to a yes or no question? She sounded like an uninformed bimbo.

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They are going to give a vague answer if they don't know the proper way to answer the question or if they don't know who they are talking to. Or in your case, if they do know who they are talking to.

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it was a bad choice of words.. I didn't mean haul ass into the night, just that I didn't want to be in his presence..

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And if you commit any traffic violations to exit his presence, he can cite you for them. Making an obvious attempt to exit his presence will likely arouse his suspicions.

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Eh, its just that one department, St. troopers, the county, the cops in the city I ended up in, they're okay. I don't need officers to say they didn't see seat belts when I know they were on, I don't need to be arrested while protecting my property. They can leave a bath taste in my mouth, you can be a wanna be or a cop booster or whatever and that will be our respective viewpoints, k? I am a man, I can be pushed to the brink like any man, threats of being PITed or fired upon are things I'm not to moved by..

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Again, you obviously have a problem with law enforcement in general and make bad situations worse with your attitude. I don't like bad cops any more than someone else but I don't think that's the problem here.

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Do you want me to track the newspaper article? http://www.local8now.com/home/headlines/5245176.html thats the story right there. The parkway they terminated the chase on his huge, 99 percent deserted at that hour and would lead him to an area that was just county then to a neighboring county. The news story on the tv said more but still i guess you can chew on that..

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Did you even read the flippin article? There is NOTHING in it that suggests the pursuit was terminated because of jurisdictional issues. I stand by my assertion that it was because of liability. 100MPH for a warrant? Unless it's murder or rape, most supervisors I know are going to terminate the pursuit. I've seen a bank robbery pursuit terminated when the driver simply became too dangerous. They let him go and caught up to him later when he wasn't expecting it.

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My point is if he didn't have an arrestable offense, he didn't know yet he had two good citations, why did i have to accept a ticket from an Alcoa officer in Maryville if his citation wasn't even sending me to Maryville and it wasn't even sending me to General Sessions in the county?

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He witnessed an offense and stopped the offender. It DOES NOT matter that you made it from one town to another.

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Your saying it doesn't matter where im at but if he was just driving around say Nashville, TN and somehow thought he should run my tags would the man issue me a citation for his municipal court, or say Nashville court?

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Again, you are being thick. No, he is not going to run your tags in Nashville and stop you there. If he witnessed a violation, he would report it to Nashville authorities. This is NOT the same as your situation. In your situation, you committed the offense in his city and in his presence and he stopped you in the neighboring city for said offense.

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My point or what I was asking I guess is if I had the right to refuse his citation?

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No, you did not. That likely would have gotten you arrested. The place to contest a citation is in court, not the street.

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Whats the reason for running random tags anyways if a cop can't run people in his computer for the fun of it?
He couldn't explain why he even ran them them and I demanded to know. Seemed dumbfounded and offended..

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When an officer runs tags, he is not accessing the same systems as running an actual person (which it is generally illegal to do for S&Gs). Lots of bad guys are caught off of them, as well as stolen vehicles being recovered, etc...Random tag searches have been deemed legal in courts. He doesn't need to explain it to you. If you're curious and he won't answer, you can ask him in court.

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thick is subjective..

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Look in the dictionary, there is likely a picture of you by the word.

We so need a "Like" button!

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Okay, I'm gonna waste my time one more time on your stubborn hide and that's it. You aren't even capable of basic reading comprehension.

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Dont be talking to me with attitude and contempt like your high and mighty dude.

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They are going to give a vague answer if they don't know the proper way to answer the question or if they don't know who they are talking to. Or in your case, if they do know who they are talking to.

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I used the term, explained the situation, it doesn't matter who they are talking to, I wasn't asking for sensitive information about a drug raid or something. I told them it was in a city court too, they knew it was small fries.

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And if you commit any traffic violations to exit his presence, he can cite you for them. Making an obvious attempt to exit his presence will likely arouse his suspicions.

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Well duhdaduh moron, I just drove further into the city..

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Again, you obviously have a problem with law enforcement in general and make bad situations worse with your attitude. I don't like bad cops any more than someone else but I don't think that's the problem here.

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Why dont u break that down for me since there are about 10,000 agencies in the U.S., I hate one, my cousin who served in two real departments in Nashville and Chicago thinks their ****in dumbasses, they've been going hog wild in the Black community since I was ****in little to the point i wanted to live in the country. You sound like a booter like I said, you arent apart of the blue line, so that makes your overzealous defense of them make you look like such a wanna be and a subordinate. Why don't you join the force? Dont watch from a distance like you've been doing lol.

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Did you even read the flippin article? There is NOTHING in it that suggests the pursuit was terminated because of jurisdictional issues. I stand by my assertion that it was because of liability. 100MPH for a warrant? Unless it's murder or rape, most supervisors I know are going to terminate the pursuit. I've seen a bank robbery pursuit terminated when the driver simply became too dangerous. They let him go and caught up to him later when he wasn't expecting it.

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Yeah for some reason CBS/Ch8 was the only one that covered it. That video that article references is what they showed and the people showing it said they started radioing when they got into the county and then in the neighboring county. Like I said the time of hour and the road he was on is racing heaven, abandoned even earlier then 2am, if hes that dangerous why the hell or you going to not PIT his ass on a six lane road, well 7 with the middle turning lane..

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He witnessed an offense and stopped the offender. It DOES NOT matter that you made it from one town to another.



Again, you are being thick. No, he is not going to run your tags in Nashville and stop you there. If he witnessed a violation, he would report it to Nashville authorities. This is NOT the same as your situation. In your situation, you committed the offense in his city and in his presence and he stopped you in the neighboring city for said offense.

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well I looked where I was driving, he made a u-turn someway back and caught back up to me and it seems we were past his city line the whole time. If the city line signs actually mean anything which I honestly don't know.. The whole portion of the road I was on and then some was a different city..

Update: I done a complete canvasing of that area. The area the officer emerged from would not had allowed him to see me in the other city, only in the part of the neighboring city. Its impossible. He came from the furthest road back leading him out of his city from down hill obstructing his view even more. the last time i was in his city was 1/4 mile prior which he couldnt see under any circumstance.

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Look in the dictionary, there is likely a picture of you by the word.

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only down stairs, only down stairs..

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Also Free5.0man ive seen these cops speed, not wear seat belts, signal, stop at stop signs, all things ive been cited for. As a wanna be officer I am sure you have no opinion or stand point on that, ur pathetic

Methinx the ban hammer need to fall as AD has seen fit to threaten me via PMs!

Exhibit A: "who the **** r u nigga? really? what the **** makes u the brain?"

Exhibit B: "i could stomp a complete mudhole in ur ass so get cute sum more and in my face"

If there was proper grammar usage I'd be scared! Well....maybe not totally scared, but I'd think about it.

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Methinx the ban hammer need to fall as AD has seen fit to threaten me via PMs!

Exhibit A: "who the **** r u nigga? really? what the **** makes u the brain?"

Exhibit B: "i could stomp a complete mudhole in ur ass so get cute sum more and in my face"

If there was proper grammar usage I'd be scared! Well....maybe not totally scared, but I'd think about it.

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quite being a bitch in public, this is neither the time nor the place. Methinx your new handle should be chickenshit soup smh

Would the moderators be so kind to address this troll issue?

Please and thank you!

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Would the moderators be so kind to address this troll issue?

Please and thank you!

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is there some version of Godwin's Law that addresses trolling allegations too? Hop off my thread boy, thx..

"....... In addition, whoever points out that Godwin's law applies to the thread is also considered to have "lost" the battle, as it is considered poor form to invoke the law explicitly........"

Ref: http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Godwins_Law

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"....... In addition, whoever points out that Godwin's law applies to the thread is also considered to have "lost" the battle, as it is considered poor form to invoke the law explicitly........"

Ref: http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Godwins_Law

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I wasn't invoking it, I was referencing the term and the concept to see if there were any counterparts that were applicable. I'm also not sure how one loses after victory..? I did not know the opponent's chess pieces still had moves after the checkmate.. You veered the thread off topic, now it's your position that the thread is a troll thread because it has no topic? This is a legal forum not the Blue Collar Comedy Tour, zip it.

in·voke transitive verb \in-ˈvōk\
in·vokedin·vok·ing

Definition of INVOKE

1a : to petition for help or support b : to appeal to or cite as authority
2: to call forth by incantation : conjure
3: to make an earnest request for : solicit
4: to put into effect or operation : implement
5: bring about, cause

ref: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/invoke

If you had any sort of reading comprehension you'd have been able to 'see' that; "whoever points out that Godwin's law applies to the thread is also considered to have "lost" the battle", while the rest of the quote does deal with an actual invocation; "as it is considered poor form to invoke the law".

Either way, you've shown up unarmed to a battle of the wits! :p

I wasn't implying it did I was AFFIRMING that it did.

af·firm
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verb (used with object)
1.
to state or assert positively; maintain as true: to affirm one's loyalty to one's country; He affirmed that all was well.
2.
to confirm or ratify: The appellate court affirmed the judgment of the lower court.
3.
to assert solemnly: He affirmed his innocence.
4.
to express agreement with or commitment to; uphold; support: to affirm human rights.
verb (used without object)
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Law.
a.
to state something solemnly before a court or magistrate, but without oath.
b.
to ratify and accept a voidable transaction.
c.
(of an appellate court) to determine that the action of the lower court shall stand.

I was just stating what was already regarded as truth which is different from using a principle as a crutch in a dispute. You are in fact the troll in the thread and you demonstrated that by playing the "troll card" when you couldn't get me to bite.

It doesn't matter even if I referenced Godwin's Law because you were finished in the thread. You are no longer apart of the thread. Your involvement in the thread had been concluded because I would not past that point had been willing to address any comments you made to the thread that were on topic because you showed no intention of ever being on topic. Even if you stated the original statute in the law I asked for in the first post I would not address it because your entrance in the thread to begin with was to serve the role of some type of vulture..

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I wasn't invoking it, I was referencing the term and the concept to see if there were any counterparts that were applicable. I'm also not sure how one loses after victory..? I did not know the opponent's chess pieces still had moves after the checkmate.. You veered the thread off topic, now it's your position that the thread is a troll thread because it has no topic? This is a legal forum not the Blue Collar Comedy Tour, zip it.

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victory? What victory?

You are the one who got stopped and can do nothing about it. I don't know if you got a ticket or not but if you did, you are the one going to court or paying the ticket. I don't see that as a win no matter how you look at it.

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victory? What victory?

You are the one who got stopped and can do nothing about it. I don't know if you got a ticket or not but if you did, you are the one going to court or paying the ticket. I don't see that as a win no matter how you look at it.

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i didnt appreciate the cop but he didn't give me any citation i didnt already have to remedy on other cases.

Sooooo, after a pursuit through multiple jurisdictions they simply let you go to drive off into the sunset with a pat on the back and a "Gee that was fun, let's do it again sometime"?????????

its not a pursuit until you actively accelerate after you have been lit up

I always thought it was failure to yield. Think OJ.....there was no acceleration there.

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its not a pursuit until you actively accelerate after you have been lit up

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I get it; the cops thought is was a parade with OJ being the grand marshall. Boy I bet they were red faced when they found out they were following a guy wanted for murder.

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Sooooo, after a pursuit through multiple jurisdictions they simply let you go to drive off into the sunset with a pat on the back and a "Gee that was fun, let's do it again sometime"?????????

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i never went over the speed limit and he didnt blue light me for awhile. I don't care if no matter what twist or turn he made too, regular cars do that same stuff too.

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its not a pursuit until you actively accelerate after you have been lit up

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Are you referring to the law or chasing woman?

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i didnt appreciate the cop but he didn't give me any citation i didnt already have to remedy on other cases.

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Sooooo, you did get cited and/or charged with something? Orrrrr, you didn't get any citation/charges and all your other cases got wiped away? I don't think, and I don't wanna go back through all this drivel, that you ever distinctly explained what you are actually charged with.

I'm getting so confused due to your story changin' and the fact that I don't wanna review, and I never took notes.

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i never went over the speed limit and he didnt blue light me for awhile. I don't care if no matter what twist or turn he made too, regular cars do that same stuff too.

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It does not appear that your explanations are anywhere near "regular"!:p

he ggave me a tag ticket and an insurance ticket. thats it.. I said I didn't like the idea of him running my tags, addressing me outside of his city, and I don't like his department. Its not that hard to keep up Soupernintendo. If I get insurance for this ticket they would just dismiss all the other no insurance tickets i have had in this county and a neighboring county because thats how they do here. The tag ticket would by default be remedied when I just update the other tag that was supposed to be on it anyway..

Sooooo, you are getting all worked up over a couple of minor tickets? Ya ever heard of Xanax?

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Here's the story you linked to a number of posts back and claim it's the one that pertains to you. It proves that you are really having a hard time keeping up with your own bullshit!

"Maryville (WVLT) - A Maryville man is in custody after Maryville Police say he led them on a high speed chase.


Maryville Police Chief Tony Crisp says it all started just before two on Monday morning when an officer pulled over 38-year-old Randall Wayne Cooper. When the officer realized Cooper had a warrant in Knox County, he asked Cooper to step out of the vehicle.
Chief Crisp says that's when cooper took off and led police on a high speed chase through Blount County with speeds reaching up to 100 miles an hour.

"They went through several streets in Maryville, went into the county, come back into Maryville. Several streets there that they went through a couple of subdivisions," Maryville Police Chief Tony Crisp said.

Officers terminated the chase on Lamar Alexander Parkway, but Cooper was eventually caught in Loudon County on Tellico Parkway.
Crisp tells us Cooper faces felony reckless endangerment charges."

A felony reckless endangerment charge is quite seriously more significant that what you recently portray!

Soooooo, which is it? Maybe try the truth this time......just a thought!