Re: Are Runaway Children Classified as Homeless
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I would like everyone to know that my best friend has been living with me since November 16th 2012. He moved in at the age of 17 in the state of Michigan. I will further explain how the lawyers on this site don't fully understand the laws themselves. :)
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His parents did call the police after my mother and I left with my friend from his house. My best friend left a note saying where he was going and that he was going by will, not by force. His father tried saying that my mother kidnapped him, but instead, the police said that there was nothing they could do as a 17 year old was not a minor. They then told his father to have a good night.
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The school counted him as "homeless" even though he was obviously living with us. He was given free lunches due to that, but he was able to enroll without his parents permission.
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A 17 year old is a MIDDLE AGE for teenagers in Michigan. A 17 year old is NOT a minor nor an adult.
I only wanted to clear this us due to the amount of posts I saw on the internet at the time I was looking it up, I thought this would be helpful. So for anyone who is asking if you can move out in Michigan at the age of 17, the answer is YES. Just make sure you tell your parents where you are going and that you are going by choice.
Oh, sweet child o' mine...
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I thought his mom was going to enroll him in school??
It's hardly a big victory against the evil machine if he got enrolled in school and mom was okay with it.
Re: Are Runaway Children Classified as Homeless
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I would like everyone to know that my best friend has been living with me since November 16th 2012. He moved in at the age of 17 in the state of Michigan. I will further explain how the lawyers on this site don't fully understand the laws themselves. :)
At risk of repeating myself:
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Your question here was whether a runaway child is homeless under a specific statute. You were given an accurate answer, then threw a tantrum.
Now you're stating that the child was allowed to enroll in school, something that has absolutely no relevance to the question asked, and... what?
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His parents did call the police after my mother and I left with my friend from his house. My best friend left a note saying where he was going and that he was going by will, not by force. His father tried saying that my mother kidnapped him, but instead, the police said that there was nothing they could do as a 17 year old was not a minor. They then told his father to have a good night.
What does that have to do with whether a runaway 17-year-old is homeless, or with enrollment in school? If you wanted to know about juvenile court jurisdiction in Michigan, you would need to ask us a question about juvenile court jurisdiction. If you wanted to know the policies of the local constabulary, as you didn't bother to identify your locality, you would have had to have asked them. That has nothing to do with either "homelessness" or school enrollment.
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The school counted him as "homeless" even though he was obviously living with us. He was given free lunches due to that, but he was able to enroll without his parents permission.
If the school counted him as "homeless", whatever that's supposed to mean, that's what the school did under the school's policies, quite possibly because the teenager lied to the school about his situation. I could call you "dumb as a sack of hammers", but that wouldn't actually make you a sack of hammers. (Would it?)
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A 17 year old is a MIDDLE AGE for teenagers in Michigan. A 17 year old is NOT a minor nor an adult.
The age of majority in Michigan is 18. A 17-year-old is a minor. You are confusing the fact that there are different age thresholds for different activities (e.g., getting a driver's license, being held fully responsible for your criminal acts, smoking, voting, buying alcohol) with whether or not somebody has reached the age of majority.
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The school counted him as "homeless" even though he was obviously living with us. He was given free lunches due to that, but he was able to enroll without his parents permission.
What you mean is the school chose to look the other way, while your mother falsified Federal documents. They offered to do the same for us, when we took in a homeless 18 yr old and allowed him to finish school. Contrary to your mom, we chose not to commit a Federal crime.
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It doesn't really matter if it has nothing to do with this question, I just thought it needed to be included.
The school DID count him as homeless because that's what they needed to do. Nobody lied in the situation, that's just what the school chose to call it.
Lastly, if 17 was a minor, he would not have been able to leave his household without parents permission. I'm not confusing anything with anything. A 17 year old is not a minor.
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Yes, a 17 year old is a minor BY STATUTE. The law that says so has been shown to you. Either you cannot read or you cannot reason. The fact that you have been able to exploit a loophole in the law does not change the law itself. But clearly you think that you know the law better than the attorney who has responded to you here so I see no point in continuing this conversation.
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They didn't give me the correct answers - actually, none of the lawyers on this site helped me. Oh well. I got the correct answers elsewhere, that's all the matters, huh?
Either way, the issue has been resolved. He was able to move in because he wasn't a minor. If he was, he would not have been able to move in and he would have been taken home. Considering a minor would have needed parental permission, which he didn't have. It may be stated in the law that a 17 year old is a minor, but on the day that he left home, the police said that he wasn't a minor at the age of 17. That's exactly what the police told his parents, and so they could not return him home.
Have a nice day all of you. :)
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It doesn't really matter if it has nothing to do with this question, I just thought it needed to be included.
If you are going to pretend that your supposed revelations are relevant to what you were told, then they need to somehow relate to what you were asked or what you were told. You seem to be conceding that you received a 100% accurate answer to your actual question, and that you are engaged in an adolescent fit of pique.
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The school DID count him as homeless because that's what they needed to do.
They could have classified him as a grapefruit. That doesn't change the fact that he was neither homeless nor a grapefruit.
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Nobody lied in the situation, that's just what the school chose to call it.
I am not particularly impressed with your contention that nobody lied, but as I said, calling you "dumb as a sack of hammers" doesn't mean you are in fact a sack of hammers.
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Lastly, if 17 was a minor, he would not have been able to leave his household without parents permission.
I realize that you aren't very bright, but that has nothing to do with the age of majority and everything to do with the jurisdictional limit of the juvenile court. That has been explained in painstaking detail, with reference to statute, and even a five-year-old would get it. But you....
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