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  • 10-29-2012, 11:57 AM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Minor Stole Alcohol
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    I was awakened at 2am by a police officer.
    I told him I had accidentally left it outside by the door.

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    Quoting Alp71963
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    I sat it by the door, to grab later when I packed my bag... Figured it'd be safe...

    That's not what you told the police officer.
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    Quoting Alp71963
    Have never had this happen before and am surprised a strange kid's mom can press charges on me bc her son sneaked onto our porch!

    The charges are being filed by a prosecutor, not the mother. Presumably junior got drunk and did something stupid, hence the prior police visit and the charge.
  • 10-29-2012, 12:02 PM
    PandorasBox
    Re: Minor Stole Alcohol
    Liar Liar, Pants on Fire.

    You've given us two stories already:

    "The reason it was left on the porch was because I carried in a bunch of groceries and thought I brought it in"

    and

    "I sat it by the door, to grab later when I packed my bag..."

    and to make it better..."There are several groups of minors living in the park". So you leave booze where the minors can easily get it? And they somehow choose your porch over everyone elses....

    Have fun in court. The judge and prosecutor will have a field day with you. You need to call a lawyer TODAY.
  • 10-29-2012, 02:40 PM
    LawResearcherMissy
    Re: Minor Stole Alcohol
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    I sat it by the door, to grab later when I packed my bag... Figured it'd be safe...
    You are really not clear on the concept of "Stop talking about this and talk to an attorney", are you? You just incriminated yourself in front of the whole bleeding internet. Do you have any idea how many people you just took responsibility in front of? That was really dumb.

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    Have never had this happen before and am surprised a strange kid's mom can press charges on me bc her son sneaked onto our porch!
    You admit freely that you left a bag of booze visible in an unsecured, easily accessible location. I don't think you could even get him for trespassing.

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    Am looking for legal laws not moral judgements.
    Liquor laws in every state hold you responsible if you don't keep your booze out of reach of minors. If you think we're mean, wait til you get a load of what the judge will have to say to you. You won't like it, not one little bit, and if you get all shirty about "moral judgments" at the judge, you're going to get the tongue lashing of your life.

    One more time: STFU and retain counsel.
  • 10-29-2012, 02:46 PM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Minor Stole Alcohol
    One wonders, why did the kid who was caught with the booze say, "I got the booze from 'Alp71963'", not "I got it from Alp71963's little sister," or "....from Alp71963's parents", or "...from one of the other people who lived in Alp71963's home"? How did he know that it was your booze?
  • 10-29-2012, 03:16 PM
    cdwjava
    Re: Minor Stole Alcohol
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    Quoting Alp71963
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    Have never had this happen before and am surprised a strange kid's mom can press charges on me bc her son sneaked onto our porch!

    How do you know mom requested you be charged? Chances are junior said you gave it to him. Unless, of course, your state has a law that requires you to secure alcohol. The state will have to show that you provided the alcohol to the minor. If the kid denies it and admits to stealing it, then you should be in the clear. But, if he says you gave it to him, you will have a harder time.
  • 10-29-2012, 04:13 PM
    jk
    Re: Minor Stole Alcohol
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    Alp71963;662413]I live in a household w 5 other people. The 2 fifths were to bring on an out of town trip. I do alot of cooking on the grill... And sit outside to drink. Friday night, was my sisters birthday... She turned 14. In the excitement of a van load full rushing inside w cake and birthday party stuff (no drinking at that party... Children present, all family members) I sat it by the door, to grab later when I packed my bag... Figured it'd be safe...
    safe compared to something like putting it in a cupboard inside?


    do you realize that even if you did actually and innocently leave the booze on the step, you could still be liable if a kid drank it and was injured or injured somebody or somebody else's property, right?


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    There are several groups of minors living in the park. I do not know the kid who took it. My sister knows his friend. They are 15.
    Especially since you are aware of several groups of minors in the park that apparently roam about looking for booze people leave on their front porch, you could be in serious trouble for doing it.


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    Appreciate all the help... Thanks! Am looking for legal laws not moral judgements.
    Legal laws? Is there anything else? you have already been told that you could be in serious trouble. You need a lawyer.
  • 10-29-2012, 04:16 PM
    cdwjava
    Re: Minor Stole Alcohol
    Oh, it's more than he "could be" in trouble, he is. Apparently the police are already looking to charge him. His story is difficult to swallow, and even if true it will be a hard sell to a prosecutor, or a judge and jury. However, if there is NO evidence to show that he gave the alcohol to the kid, then maybe he'll be okay. If the kid admits that he stole it off the porch without the OP's knowledge, then i doubt he'll be charged. But, if it is as I suspect and the kid (or someone) is alleging that the OP knowingly provided it, then he's in trouble.
  • 10-29-2012, 05:37 PM
    PandorasBox
    Re: Minor Stole Alcohol
    Again, I wonder...how did these minors arrive on HIS porch, undetected....and not a neighbors....
  • 10-29-2012, 05:43 PM
    cdwjava
    Re: Minor Stole Alcohol
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    Quoting PandorasBox
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    Again, I wonder...how did these minors arrive on HIS porch, undetected....and not a neighbors....

    That's the mystery! And how would they have known that a small bag on the porch was alcohol, and that it was safe to snag it off of a porch occupied by 5 people? It just seems odd.
  • 10-29-2012, 06:18 PM
    PandorasBox
    Re: Minor Stole Alcohol
    And of all bags to leave on the porch...and with 2 different reasons why....

    He needs a lawyer. And dude...you have to be HONEST with your lawyer. If not, if your lawyer detects a lie, or finds you lied...he can drop you and keep your retainer.
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