Custody Order Unfair to Non-Custodial Father

My question involves a child custody case from the State of: Wisconsin

READ THIS ORDER AND THEN REALIZE ITS SOLEY BASED ON WHAT A MOTHER SAID

NO POLICE CONTACT/ NO CRIMINAL CHARGES 5 YEARS PREVIOUS TO THE BIRTH OF THE CHILD

NO WITNESS'S

THIS WAS BASED ON A JUDGE SAYING "WELL I BELIEVED HER MORE THAN HIM"

ALSO NOTE..... MOM ADMITTED LYING ON AFFIDAVITS, IN COURT BECAUSE SHE WAS IGNORANT OF THE LAW

IT IS HEREBY ORDERED:

1. Sole legal custody and primary physical placement of the minor child shall be awarded to the petitioner, Kim .

2. The respondent, John shall have periods of supervised physical placement with the minor child on the first and third weekends of each month in Green Bay or Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

3. The first supervised weekend placement shall take place on Saturday, September 1, 2012 from 2:00 p.m. until 6:00 p.m., and on Sunday from 10:00 a.m. until 2:00 p.m.

4. Visitations will take place in a public environment where the child's health, safety, and well-being are the top priority. The site must be approved by the visit supervisor. The visit supervisor is an impartial observer that may terminate the visit if any guidelines are violated or if any other behavior occurs that is deemed inappropriate. The supervisor is instructed to call Ms.KIM immediately if any of the court ordered rules are violated. The visitation will end without make-up time.

5. Mr. will interact in a positive and supportive manner with Bella. Any communication or behavior that is emotionally or physically threatening to Bella will not be allowed.
6. Mr. understands that Bella's behavior at visits is his responsibility. Mr.
will set limits and discipline appropriately. Physical discipline of any type (spanking, hitting, threatening, or any other type of corporal punishment) is not allowed.


7. There will be no physical activities such as wrestling or horseplay that could result in injury to Bella.

8. Mr. will remain in the presence of the supervisor at all times. Visitation will take place at a location authorized by the supervisor.

9. Mr. will not use illegal or non-prescription drugs, alcohol, or anything that impairs judgment before and during the visit with Bella. He will consent to a drug screen if ordered by the court.

10. Video and audio recording devices are not permitted at visits.

11. Mr. will turn his cell phone off before visits.

12. Mr. will not bring any weapons or anything to the visits that could be used as a weapon.

13. It is expected that the supervised visits will end on time.

14. Bella will use the restroom alone, or with the supervisor.

15. Any activity expenses for Bella will be covered by Mr.

16. Conversations should be natural and directed by Bella's interest.

17. Mr. will not discuss adult issues such as court proceedings or visitation restrictions with Bella. Mr. will not make promises about unsupervised visits or future living arrangements.

18. Mr. will not speak of or question Bella about Ms. or her husband. NOTE SHE REMARRIED 9 MONTHS AFTER TAKING THE KIDDO

19. Mr. will not whisper to Bella or pass notes. This includes letters. Any letters should be given to the supervisor who will allow Ms. to first read them.

20. Mr. will not disseminate or ask about information including the location of school, home, work, address, or other private matters with Bella. This includes information about Bella and Ms. and her husband.

21. There will be no negative language about Ms. or any family members.

22. Mr. will arrive 15 minutes early and Bella will be brought at the start of the visit as dictated by the supervisor. Mr. will wait up to 15 minutes after the visit or until the supervisor says he can leave.
23. If at any time during a supervised visit, the child is in need of medical attention, the supervisor will contact Ms. immediately. The child will be picked up by Ms. to attend to any medical situation. If immediate attention is required, 911 must be dialed and Ms. contacted immediately. If possible, the visitation will continue after necessary treatment.

24. Supervised placement visit shall take place from 2:00 p.m. until 6:00 p.m. on each Saturday and 10 a.m. until 2:00 p.m. on Sunday of the placement weekends.

25. Supervised placement means that the supervisor must stay within an earshot during the entire duration of the placement visit.

26. Placements shall be supervised by Carol of Green Bay area, or by an experienced person as agreed by both parties. For information on fees and scheduling, the parties may contact Carol by telephone at (-0441.

27. The hourly fee for the supervised visitation shall be equally divided between the parties.

28. The respondent, John , is responsible for any and all fees and costs associated with his transportation. These fees include, but are not limited to, air fares, cab rides, car rentals, and hotel costs.

29. Thirty (30) days prior to each visit, the respondent, John , must email his itinerary (including a hotel reservation, an airline, and a flight number) to the petitioner, Kimberly The exception is the first visit where Mr. Rudell shall give 21 days notice of his flight and lodging information.

30. The respondent, John shall make all necessary arrangements with the supervisor by contacting the supervisor 30 days prior to each visit, or within the time period required by the supervisor, except 21 days travel information and lodging notice for the first visit only, and inform the supervisor about the date and location of each visit.

31. If the respondent, John Rudell does not provide Ms. with the required 30 days notice prior to each visit (21 days for the first visit), he forfeits his placement visit for that weekend. Forfeit weekends cannot be rescheduled.

32. The respondent must email his flight and lodging information to the petitioner, Kimberly by utilizing this email account: @gmcom. This email account must solely be used for the purposes of the placement notification by the respondent John Ms. will acknowledge receipt of Mr. emails.

33. For the purpose of utilizing the airport shuttle services, instead of renting a car, Mr. may fly into Green Bay or Milwaukee airports.

34. In the event Mr. flight is delayed and he is going to be late for the supervised meeting, Mr. must contact the supervisor who will then contact Ms.


35. The respondent, John is ordered to pay the petitioner, Kimberly child support in the amount of $207.00 per month. This shall be done by income assignment. The respondent's employer shall be ordered to withhold $ 207.00 of the respondent's gross income from money due on a monthly basis and send the payment to the Trust Fund, P.O. Box 74400, Child Support shall be retroactive as of January 01, 2012.

36. Because Ms. was successful in her UCCJEA claims, the respondent, John shall reimburse the petitioner, Kimberly her attorney fees and costs in the amount of $1,272.00 within 90 days of July 25, 2012.

37. The parties shall equally divide the Guardian ad Litem's fees and costs.

38. The respondent, John must complete a Batterer's Intervention Program (BIP), Drug and Alcohol Assessment Program (DAAP), and Driver Safety Program (DSP) before unsupervised physical placement with the child is considered by the Court. (THIS RIGHT HERE IS THE REAL PROBLEM/////BASED ON MOMS WORD ALL THIS PROGRAMING NEVER ANY WEAPONS CHARGES NEVER ANY dv CHARGES OR ACCUSATIONS


Dated this _________ day of ____________, 2012

BY THE COURT:


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aBOUT AS F-ed UP AS IT GETS

BTW THIS IS NOT AN ORDER BY A FLORIDA COURT.

ANY ADVICE AS i NEVER PLAN ON DOING THESE PROGRAMS, BASED ON WHAT MOM SAID????????

iM RANTING BECAUSE THE 10TH MARKS TWO YEARS SINCE IVE SEEN MY KIDDO

It appear from your HX, it was also based on a doctor recommendation, GAL intervention and internet ranting by you on Facebook.

You haven't followed any advice we've given you for two years; why should we believe you'll listen to us now?

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You haven't followed any advice we've given you for two years; why should we believe you'll listen to us now?

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Plus the fact lies in you haven't seen your child in two years. You are a virtual stranger to this child. No matter how that happened, your fault, moms fault, or the courts fault. You would have to be slowly integrated back into the child’s life. If you want to go another two years or more without seeing your child, don't do the programs. Or keep seeing your child under a court appointed persons eye, paying for the Guardian ad Litem forever

thats what ill do, wait for mom to go thru two more husbands, get a dui and a pot charge and then revisit the order. maybe her "i was ignorant of the law" excuse for lying on affidavits will not be allowed by the judge a second time.

Maybe when the DR admits evrything he has based his reccomendation on is pure speculation a judge will go agaisnt it as well as the GAL

the trial was not based on facts it was based on probability. there were 4 witness's on my behalf that contradicted what she was saying in all facets

she said she told an appellate court judge about DV yet they have to report that if so, i questioned where he was to his colleague on the stand, "somebody isnt telling the truth or someone isnt doing their job"

Im still pissed so im gonna stay away for awhile untill i can come to terms that "life and people aint fair"

Have you suffered some sort of traumatic event involving the ball of gray stuff inside your skull? Please, tell us you changed all of the names before posting that - that you didn't just delete out most of the surnames, but that the first names are also changed.

why should it be hidden why should first names be hidden?? [Admin: Just stop. Thanks]

You do realize this can, and likely will, be used against you in a court of law?

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why should it be hidden why should first names be hidden?

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Forum rules. You want to post other people's names? Then you won't be allowed to continue to post here.

Wow. Did you ever pay off those tickets in Wausau, or are you shooting for the #1 spot?

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Forum rules. You want to post other people's names? Then you won't be allowed to continue to post here.

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Promises, promises.

ok i wont post names.......george washington. ben franklin. nelson mandala. gandhi. mr marley.
i guesse they r ok cause their gone now.

im jus pissed cause i got tomorrow to file "statement on transcript"

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Wow. Did you ever pay off those tickets in Wausau, or are you shooting for the #1 spot?

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what in the heck do parking tickets have to do with parenting from the early 2000s when kiddo wasnt born till 2007....btw i wasnt driving car

Let's all wave to Johnny.

Hi, Johnny.

Now we can carry on with whatever the heck it was we were doing.

I wonder what the judge will think when he finds out that dad has just published all his legal business and that of the child on the net, to be searched by everyone.

Especially when he wasn't consistent with the names and in some places calling himself John and then other places, calling himself Mr. XXX, whose ex's name is XXX and we can guess whose daughter's name is XXXbella.

Lovely. And quite the genius.

As much as we're discouraged from feeding the trolls, this is just an FYI:

The Court of Appeals dismissed the OP's appeal. The matter is now closed.

(Not unexpected in the slightest)

you think i had it in me to appeal? lmao no way jose i allready lost! i lost cause mom was more believable and their was a higher probality she was telling the truth....what the heck kinda trial i that....5 witness's man 5 witness's testifying she lied, she admitted herself she lied. holy crap man

so the question is if you never abused your ex or abused drugs and alcohol while child was living and in your care would you bend to the will of the law and do all the treatment so you could "possibly" have more vistation with the child?

also in 2 years when the DV RO is up does mom have to prove to a court why she needs it for another 4 years?
because it seems to me a very good way to hide a kiddo from the other parent............

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you think i had it in me to appeal? lmao no way jose i allready lost! i lost cause mom was more believable and their was a higher probality she was telling the truth....what the heck kinda trial i that....5 witness's man 5 witness's testifying she lied, she admitted herself she lied. holy crap man

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Uh...you appealed. It was denied. And...uh...you lost this whole thing because you are not stable, you won't follow the rules and you don't know when to stop.

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so the question is if you never abused your ex or abused drugs and alcohol while child was living and in your care would you bend to the will of the law and do all the treatment so you could "possibly" have more vistation with the child?

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If you have to ask this question, you have no business having visitation with a basil plant let alone visitation with a child.

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also in 2 years when the DV RO is up does mom have to prove to a court why she needs it for another 4 years?
because it seems to me a very good way to hide a kiddo from the other parent............

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I don't blame her for trying.

Hi John.

Don't punish your kid because of anger towards her mom. Be a real man. Take those courses and become a part of your daughters life. Or just see about what my friend did - he did not want to pay the child support or have anything to do with the child....so an agreement was made....no child support, in exchange for no contact at all until she turned 18, and only IF she makes first contact.

i aint signing away rights.... nope nada........

My facebook acct keeps having pics of my kiddo that Ive taken deleted. because somebody is reporting them. Do i have any harassment recourse for this?

Not even a little bit. She has a right to protect her child.

with that said so Do I!!!!! and how is a proud daddy posting pics of his kiddo a danger to kiddo????? Jus curious.......

i think she is abusing the kiddo........she was sexually assaulted by a family member in sheboygan county several times and her adopted family covered it up to protect their uncle.......

ya know what they say about abused people....... its a damn shame when i get kiddo back there is gonna be alot of healing to do.....

Poor stinker it breaks my heart

John, you can go now. Really.