Can You Be Charged With Speeding Without Evidence Such as Radar
Ok well here's my story, went up to Glendora mountain road with a few friends. To go see the view up at center point. Me and friends got caught running ridge. Cops busted us towed our vehicles. Also cop was threading to crush my vehicle. But I got the vehicle the very next day due to the car not being mines. Also officer did not let me talk also threated me again saying he's going to put me in hand cuffs. I have the right to speak its part of our rights. Well my point is how can I win? They said we were driving 55 mph + but have no proof with radar gun. Do you think the cop actually recorded the speed? If not do I have a point? Please reply back. I am in serious need of help, I can't have this in my life right now due to my family struggling with money.
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Ok well here's my story, went up to Glendora mountain road with a few friends. To go see the view up at center point. Me and friends got caught running ridge. Cops busted us towed our vehicles. Also cop was threading to crush my vehicle. But I got the vehicle the very next day due to the car not being mines. Also officer did not let me talk also threated me again saying he's going to put me in hand cuffs. I have the right to speak its part of our rights. Well my point is how can I win? They said we were driving 55 mph + but have no proof with radar gun. Do you think the cop actually recorded the speed? If not do I have a point? Please reply back. I am in serious need of help, I can't have this in my life right now due to my family struggling with money.
For starters, you are asked for the name of your state for a reason! When you delete it, it means we either have to ask you for it again or you are not likely to get any answers!
What do you mean you and your friend got caught "running ridge"?
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I'm sorry I was doing this on my phone and typing quickly, the state I am from is California. Not only did my friends get caught I am the one who got caught also. I really need help.
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Ok, so you answered ONE of TG’s questions. So, we now know this occurred in CA. But, your post is still missing quite a bit of needed info and your grammar is confusing the hell out of me.
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Me and friends got caught running ridge.
Ok, as TG already asked, WTF is “running ridge?” What, exactly, were you “busted” for? What is the charge (including the statute number!) you are accused of?
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Cops busted us towed our vehicles. Also cop was threading to crush my vehicle.
Ok, so your vehicles were towed…I understand that much. But, exactly what did the cop say that was “threading” to crush your vehicle? Such a threat (presuming that was what you meant by “threading”) makes no sense.
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But I got the vehicle the very next day due to the car not being mines.
Well, “mines” are big holes in the ground used to extract valuable minerals. So, I don’t know of any car that qualifies as a mine. But, anyway, the car you were driving was impounded and was released to the registered owner the next day. So, what is the issue?
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Also officer did not let me talk also threated me again saying he's going to put me in hand cuffs. I have the right to speak its part of our rights.
Yes, the first amendment protects your right of free speech. However, free speech does not allow you to hinder or delay a police investigation or lawful police activity. The cop does not have to stop and listen to you running your mouth! So, the cop did not “threated” (is that an alternate spelling of “threading?”) to put you in handcuffs…he was legitimately warning you that he would restrain you if your disruptive behavior continued!
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Well my point is how can I win? They said we were driving 55 mph + but have no proof with radar gun. Do you think the cop actually recorded the speed? If not do I have a point?
Since I still have no idea what you were actually charged with, what the circumstances were, or what “point” you’re trying to make, I have no idea as to an answer to any of these questions.
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Please reply back. I am in serious need of help, I can't have this in my life right now due to my family struggling with money.
Sorry to hear that. But, it is completely irrelevant in regards to your violation, the cop’s actions, or your options in challenging the charges against you.
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I think I have a few answers for you, and I think I know at least one charge you face. But, what code section(s) are you charged with? Were you issued a citation, or were you arrested??
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23109. How does he know I was racing? I did not see no radar gun. And also I was not running my mouth I was actually very polite.
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23109. How does he know I was racing? I did not see no radar gun. And also I was not running my mouth I was actually very polite.
A motor speed contest does not require any specific speed. If he observed you and another party competing against each other in an apparent attempt to get ahead of each other or trying to get someplace faster than the other, that may be all that is required.
23109. (a) A person shall not engage in a motor vehicle speed
contest on a highway. As used in this section, a motor vehicle speed
contest includes a motor vehicle race against another vehicle, a
clock, or other timing device. For purposes of this section, an event
in which the time to cover a prescribed route of more than 20 miles
is measured, but where the vehicle does not exceed the speed limits,
is not a speed contest.
The full section is here:
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/di...le=23100-23135
And politeness has nthing to do with the charge.
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I have driven GMR at least a hundred times. If you were going anywhere near 55 you we driving recklessly. It's a little two lane back road with about 50 tight turns and a number of hairpin switchbacks. People who live at Camp Williams in East Fork take as an alternate to Hwy 39. Have a gander here.
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I have the right to speak its part of our rights.
Yeah, you're right about that. But see, under the circumstances, you also have the right to remain silent. Which right do you think would have benefited you more in this case?
I'll answer that for you... You seem to be the type who can't shut up for his own good. And I'll bet you the full amount of the fine you ran your mouth off up until a point where you said something to incriminate yourself. So now he doesn't have to prove anything. All he has to do is repeat what you told him. That is how he knows you were racing...
And lastly, and while this is far from being any of my business as it is between you and Him. But still, this is certainly NOT how you praise God... The way I see it, you praise God by using one of the gifts he's given you as a human being. The ability to differentiate between right and wrong, ..., between smart and stupid... You don't wait until you're up to your earlobes in trouble then you praise him and hope he's watching over you?
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Goodness, I just drove that road from Mt. Baldy down through East Fork down to Azusa last week. It's my clear my mind while enjoying the scenery road. I've been stopped before by CHP as well, just because of the car I drive and because they know of the activities that goes on there, but they never gave me a hard time.
You admitted to "running ridge." Those corners are tight and 80% of them are blind. It would be pretty obvious to an officer what you two were up to.