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  • 08-19-2012, 11:33 AM
    cbg
    Re: Stealing Time Hours from Work
    Okey dokey then.
  • 08-19-2012, 02:58 PM
    PandorasBox
    Re: Stealing Time Hours from Work
    I was wondering about the casino angle.....from what I understand in Michigan, the laws require the casinos to report any and all thefts to state/tribal authorities, and prosecute when possible.

    Michigan....I can't even work as a Server in a Casino-owned property. All employees have to undergo thorough background checks, and obtain licensing to work in a casino in different classes of employment.
  • 08-20-2012, 07:21 AM
    indybail
    Re: Stealing Time Hours from Work
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    this is not a ghost employee in the manner it is usually seen in the governmental sector. Those situations are usually a fictitious person or the employee actually has never actually worked for the entity involved. This is simple theft.

    also, the employer is a casino. I don't know how the casinos deal with people down there but up here, they prosecute any crime very vigorously as it tends to dampen any similar ideas that any other employee might have had. With as much money floating around as a typical casino deals with, they cannot afford to be lax in pushing for the prosecution of anybody that has committed a crime against them.

    Well, in Indiana, we refer to it as ghost employment: Ghost Employment Rule
  • 08-20-2012, 07:52 AM
    jk
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    Well, in Indiana, we refer to it as ghost employment: Ghost Employment Rule





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    The Rule: 42 IAC 1-5-13 Ghost Employment

    A state officer, employee or special state appointee shall not engage in, or direct others to engage in, work other than the performance of official duties during working hours, except as permitted by general written agency, departmental or institutional policy or regulation.




    You have just shown exactly why the OP's situation is definitely not ghost employment.
  • 08-21-2012, 07:36 AM
    indybail
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    You have just shown exactly why the OP's situation is definitely not ghost employment.

    You didn't read the whole thing.

    "Examples of the Rule

    -You are an FSSA employee. You leave work early one afternoon to have your nails done. You may not claim a full day’s pay on your timesheet.

    -You are an Indiana State Police Officer. Your cousin is having a birthday party when you are scheduled to be on patrol. You may not stop patrol and attend the birthday party instead."
  • 08-21-2012, 08:03 AM
    jk
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    You didn't read the whole thing.

    "Examples of the Rule

    -You are an FSSA employee. You leave work early one afternoon to have your nails done. You may not claim a full day’s pay on your timesheet.

    -You are an Indiana State Police Officer. Your cousin is having a birthday party when you are scheduled to be on patrol. You may not stop patrol and attend the birthday party instead."

    yes, I did read the whole thing. That is referring to state employees and ONLY state employees.
  • 08-21-2012, 10:29 AM
    indybail
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    yes, I did read the whole thing. That is referring to state employees and ONLY state employees.

    I never said it didn't. That was my point. One sees public employees prosecuted fro this, not private sector employees.
  • 08-21-2012, 10:42 AM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Stealing Time Hours from Work
    When a statute applies only to state employees, yes, obviously you will only see state employees prosecuted under that statute.
  • 08-21-2012, 11:10 AM
    jk
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    I never said it didn't. That was my point. One sees public employees prosecuted fro this, not private sector employees.


    Oh, ok.





    Yes, I misinterpreted your meaning. sorry 'bout that
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