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  • 07-29-2012, 02:43 PM
    Andi
    Re: Unintentional Shoplifting - Civil Liablity/Banned from Store
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    The majority of the time store management/security maintains interest in someone is that there's exhibited behaviors that keep them interested, and such is this case here it would appear. How "brave" of mom to claim it was all her "oversight".
    There was nothing "brave" about this. It's simply the truth. I was also the person that paid. It was merely a mistake.

    I was initial very surprised by the cynicism here, but I’ve now come to realize I simply, and thankfully, don’t ‘live’ in the same world. My husband and I are professionals that have been blessed with very comfortable lives. Lives, that stealing is simply not a part of, so the accusation of shoplifting incited a tremendous sense of righteous indignation. I am now past that and just see the absurd disservice over-zealous LP agents provide to their employers by painting both distracted patrons with intentional shoplifters with the same broad brush. So be it. It is theirs to mismanage in any way they please.

    As an analyst for a large online brokerage firm I see many clients make mistakes, but in my world we do not bully, abuse, fine and fire our client’s for their ‘oversights’. On the contrary we have client advocacy teams that work toward win-win situations. In the above situation, nobody won. I was a loyal 23 year shopper of a competing store, and was now shifting my loyalty to this new store in our area; Winco. With my daughter banned, I will never shop there again. Nor will the rest of my family, and extended family and friends (social, work, neighbor & facebook) , that do know us and know that we would never shoplift and will think twice before doing business them also.
  • 07-29-2012, 03:12 PM
    horsetrader
    Re: Unintentional Shoplifting - Civil Liablity/Banned from Store
    Nobody cares about your big shot analyst job. You are not entitled to blue-ribbon treatment simply by virtue of your profession. Learn from your mistakes and move on.
  • 07-29-2012, 03:24 PM
    cbg
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    As mentioned before, everyone from the cashier on up to the DA has heard the "oh, it was an oversight" before, and from people who unquestionably were shoplifting. Even if a message board is willing to take your word for it that you/your daughter was the exception who really did overlook the items, please explain to me why law enforcement should just take your word for it? Do you think that no one with a white-collar job has ever stolen anything before? (Do the names Enron and Worldcom mean anything to you?)
  • 07-29-2012, 03:35 PM
    Andi
    Re: Unintentional Shoplifting - Civil Liablity/Banned from Store
    LOL! I have. Didn't you get that.
  • 07-29-2012, 03:47 PM
    cbg
    Re: Unintentional Shoplifting - Civil Liablity/Banned from Store
    Yes, I see where you assume that YOU are above suspicion and that YOUR word should be taken absolutely. Sorry, sweetheart, but the world doesn't work that way.
  • 07-29-2012, 04:21 PM
    Trailboss
    Re: Unintentional Shoplifting - Civil Liablity/Banned from Store
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    Quoting Andi
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    As an analyst for a large online brokerage firm I see many clients make mistakes, but in my world we do not bully, abuse, fine and fire our client’s for their ‘oversights’.

    HAH! Considering the financial wreck this nation is in, maybe we should!
  • 07-29-2012, 04:48 PM
    Andi
    Re: Unintentional Shoplifting - Civil Liablity/Banned from Store
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    As an analyst for a large online brokerage firm I see many clients make mistakes, but in my world we do not bully, abuse, fine and fire our client’s for their ‘oversights’.
    HAH! Considering the financial wreck this nation is in, maybe we should!
    Omg! Get a GRIP! Online traders are real, simple people that have 401Ks, IRAs, and individual accounts, not JPM and Citibank or ENRON (they have brokers). Wait a minute am I REALLY talking to real lawyers, because no one with any education would try to make THAT jump.

    Let's get back to the original issue. My daughter was charged with shoplifting something I had in my cart, put through the register, paid for, and walked out with?
  • 07-29-2012, 04:54 PM
    cbg
    Re: Unintentional Shoplifting - Civil Liablity/Banned from Store
    Yes, and you have yet to explain why law enforcement should simply assume you are telling the truth when you claim it was a mistake, since so many shoplifters make that claim. What is special about you?
  • 07-29-2012, 04:57 PM
    horsetrader
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    I'd agree with the "simple" part.
  • 07-29-2012, 04:59 PM
    Andi
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    Yes, and you have yet to explain why law enforcement should simply assume you are telling the truth when you claim it was a mistake, since so many shoplifters make that claim. What is special about you?
    Honest mistakes can be made. Simply being offered the opportunity to pay for the items should have been an option.
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