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  • 07-16-2012, 01:09 PM
    Momski
    Son's Girlfriend is Pregnant, He is Unemployed
    My question involves child support in the State of: California

    My son's girlfriend is 5 weeks pregnant and wants to keep the baby despite the wishes of all families involved. I understand we cannot dictate what she does with her body, so want to understand what my son's obligation is and how is that determined? He is in college (financed by us), has no job but wants to do the right thing for his child. How would child support be calculated for someone who is not working? The girlfriend is also in college and works part time only.

    Also, am wondering if there is an advantage for the mother to remain single in terms of receiving state aide, health care for the child or other such benefits?

    Is there an agency or place that would have information about this subject?

    Thanks in advance.
  • 07-16-2012, 03:15 PM
    LawResearcherMissy
    Re: Son's Girlfriend is Pregnant, He is Unemployed
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    How would child support be calculated for someone who is not working?
    He will likely be imputed income of at least minimum wage. There is a calculator here.

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    Also, am wondering if there is an advantage for the mother to remain single in terms of receiving state aide, health care for the child or other such benefits?
    She doesn't have to marry your son. I assume what you mean is should she leave him off the birth certificate? No, that's fraud, and when paternity is later established, the state will go after your son to recoup anything it paid out in aid to her.
  • 07-16-2012, 03:36 PM
    Momski
    Re: Son's Girlfriend is Pregnant, He is Unemployed
    Thanks - I was thinking more with the second question that if the girlfriend did not marry my son would she and the baby be more eligible for state aid than if they were married? Your answer was telling in that the state will expect some reimbursement from him no matter what. But will they also supplement to her above and beyond whatever he gives? I just don't see how they are going to survive and am looking ahead at what we can do if she is determined to keep the baby.
  • 07-16-2012, 04:23 PM
    Mr. Knowitall
    Re: Son's Girlfriend is Pregnant, He is Unemployed
    Her eligibility for public assistance will depend upon her income and household situation.
  • 07-16-2012, 04:38 PM
    LawResearcherMissy
    Re: Son's Girlfriend is Pregnant, He is Unemployed
    Eligibility for state aid turns on household income - whether you're married or single. It's my understanding that California's aid options are rather generous. She can look into options here, or by visiting her local county welfare office. I should think she'd at least be eligible for WIC, likely MediCal for herself and the baby, and possibly even CalFresh.

    If Dad is owning up to his responsibility and paying support and Mom still requires State aid, that's a bit different. It's when dads skedaddle off into the sunset, don't bother to establish paternity, and leave Mom with no support that the State takes exception to.

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    I just don't see how they are going to survive and am looking ahead at what we can do if she is determined to keep the baby.
    Daddles needs to do what so many of us did/do while in college - he needs to get a job. Yes, it's difficult and distracting, and it can take a lot more effort to hold down a job and study, too, but it can be done. Even if it's only 15 or 20 hours a week, because that's all that his school schedule can accommodate, fine. It's something, and it will help.

    Your son and his girl have made things a bit difficult for themselves, but not impossible. Good on you for looking out for them, even though their choices aren't the ones you would have made.
  • 07-16-2012, 05:47 PM
    Disagreeable
    Re: Son's Girlfriend is Pregnant, He is Unemployed
    Mom and dad both need to get full time jobs instead of expecting the taxpayers to pay for their mistakes, while they go to college. We can't predict what welfare she will be eligible for as it is income and needs based.
  • 07-16-2012, 07:32 PM
    Momski
    Re: Son's Girlfriend is Pregnant, He is Unemployed
    Thanks for the clarification and list of resources about state aid. Hopefully, it won't come to that but it helps to even just feel like there is a place to start. Dad is planning to step up to the plate, get a job, finish school and support his child. It won't be easy - but it's one of life's lessons learned the hard way. I can't tell you how much I appreciate this service that you provide. It is so helpful! Thank you.
  • 07-17-2012, 06:41 AM
    evilteddy
    Re: Son's Girlfriend is Pregnant, He is Unemployed
    Welfare and all of that sounds good, but remember that she can change her mind at anytime and she can file for child support. Prepare your son since he does not have a job yet, to get use to his checks being small if a child support order being established. Both incomes are computed and whoever makes more, that's the parent who will be paying more. The non-residential parent will still pay even if they don't work when a child support order is established.

    Child support and court orders are a hassle and often these things are settle without having to go through courts. It just depends on how responsible both parents are and also their communication. You will hear this sentence over and over again " child's best interest" ... if you guys go to court.

    Good luck.
  • 07-17-2012, 08:17 AM
    Momski
    Re: Son's Girlfriend is Pregnant, He is Unemployed
    That's good to know, evilteddy. Welfare really doesn't sound good to me at all. My son and his girlfriend are young and in love and hoping to have a life together but both are very naive and unrealistic and an event like this can tear them apart. The odds are against them staying together but hopefully, with supportive family, they will have a better chance. A child deserves a stable home. We just can't support them financially. I hope it doesn't come to her being on welfare - really - but want to put all options out there and maybe it will shock them into a more realistic vision of the future. My son sees it and is pretty scared but girlfriend does not. I don't have high hopes that she will and as the decision is in her hands we will just wait and see. But more information is always a good thing going forward.

    Somehow, I was under the impression that it came down to official decrees for child support and paternity etc... good to know that is something that they can work out independently of the system. It is also good to have that child support calculator to see what the bottom line is (although realistically the bottom line is probably not near enough).
  • 07-17-2012, 08:21 AM
    LawResearcherMissy
    Re: Son's Girlfriend is Pregnant, He is Unemployed
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    good to know that is something that they can work out independently of the system.
    They can, but they really shouldn't.

    Young and in love is all well and fine, but the only thing that will preserve your son's rights if they do not marry - should he and Mom break up or Mom gets overly possessive after the birth - is a court ordered custody and visitation arrangement. (Child support is entirely separate.)

    Look around this forum, and you'll find dozens of heartbroken Dads who wanted to keep things "friendly" and work outside the system. Then Mommy got a new fella, left the state, or otherwise changed the status quo, and now Dad has to drag her to court to fight for his right to see his kiddo.

    Don't work outside the system. It can have devastating consequences later on.
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