How Can We Survive Police Brutality

My question involves police conduct in the State of:CA What can citizens do, if they are alone, that would help them survive a physical assault by a police officer who is out of control? Thank you.

run?

not resist?

(I know, they are contrary)

basically, you have the same options as you do when being assaulted by a citizen. Often times, compliance with a demand will stop the attack. If that fails, then all bets are off and do what it takes to get away or subdue the crazy man.


Just be sure that the cop is not reacting to your resistance while he is attempting to legally arrest you. If that is the case, the compliance would be the proper action.

If it's way too bad then simply say; "You hit like a girl!" or "Your mama wanted it harder than that last night!"

Things will most likely be greatly accelerated and you won't hafta suffer all that too long.

Quote:

---

Quoting huntsab

---

My question involves police conduct in the State of:CA What can citizens do, if they are alone, that would help them survive a physical assault by a police officer who is out of control? Thank you.

---

Rather than speak in hypotheticals (which can be as bad or as benign as the poser wishes the scenario to be) perhaps you can provide some details about your situation.

Drop to the ground, in a prone position. Cover your head, with your hands, keeping them visible. Loudly and emphatically start crying please don't hit me, I surrender.

Thank you, souperdave, senior member. I wish he had been shot rather than terrorized and tortured to death for a prolonged period of time. You write like a dumb, brutal cop. **** YOU, asshole.

Forget it, Carl. I withdraw the question.

Quote:

---

Quoting huntsab

---

Thank you, souperdave, senior member. I wish he had been shot rather than terrorized and tortured to death for a prolonged period of time. You write like a dumb, brutal cop. **** YOU, asshole.

Forget it, Carl. I withdraw the question.

---

It was a rather bizarre question. There is no singular answer, and no responsible person is going to tell you that you should or could use deadly force on the officer if you believe the force is excessive.

Oh, and Souperdave is not a cop. To my knowledge there are no "dumb, brutal cop[s]" on these boards.

Isn't that what the law allows? Deadly force? Would a responsible person defend his life? It is not a bizarre question. Ordinary people are forced into these scenarios. If Kelly Thomas had a gun and shot Ramos, would it be within the law? But that wouldn't have kept him alive anyway.

Tony Rackaucas told us at a press conference we have the right to resist excessive, unreasonable, unlawful force.

Quote:

---

Quoting huntsab

---

Isn't that what the law allows? Deadly force?

---

No. The law permits the use of REASONABLE force. If deadly force were reasonable under the circumstances, so be it. But, it is rarely going to end well for John Q. Citizen to try and engage an officer with deadly force unless he wants to also receive it in return.

Quote:

---

Tony Rackaucas told us at a press conference we have the right to resist excessive, unreasonable, unlawful force.

---

Resisting is not the same as the utilization of DEADLY force. And, the determination of what is excessive, unreasonable or unlawful will not be that which is in the eye of the beholder, but based upon the totality of the circumstances and whether the facts present at the time would lead to an objective and reasonable officer of similar training and experience to utilize the same or similar level of force under the circumstances.

What YOU might consider to be excessive or unlawful may actually be quite reasonable under the law. If you intervene or resist an arrest, you can expect to be criminally charged - and perhaps seriously injured.

Quote:

---

Quoting huntsab

---

Tony Rackaucas told us at a press conference we have the right to resist excessive, unreasonable, unlawful force.

---

and you were told that in the first response (mine). Since you want to speak about shooting the cop, you had better be real sure the cop is not justified in any way to subdue you. There are also limitations as to how far you can go with your response/defense.