Re: Wrongfully Detained for Shoplifting, but Admitted to Sheriff's
Your conduct when the LP officers attempted to detain you could play a significant role in the type of plea bargain a prosecutor is willing to offer. I'm not sure what you imagine the "lack of evidence" to be - you were observed stealing by LP officers, you fought with them when they attempted to detain you, and you confessed to the police. (You seriously want us to believe that "As we approached the entrance where the Loss Prevention is stationed, one of the men began to lean on me and pull on my arm, pushing me towards the door" you didn't know what was going on?)
In my opinion you should retain a criminal defense lawyer.
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akilah
These also raise a lot of questions for me.
A lot of that stuff is just plain wrong.
Re: Wrongfully Detained for Shoplifting, but Admitted to Sheriff's
Alright, Thank you.
I would like to note that I was never observed. The officers did NOT see me in person, or have video evidence. I fought because neither of the men identified themselves to me, which I believed to be a must in any shoplifting situation. When we came towards the Loss Prevention entrance, I kept my pace of walking as the LPO's slowed down, and I was in fact grasped by the arm as the LPO in an attempt to turn me towards the entrance. Your answer feels a little judgmental and sarcastic, however I only seek professional, helpful answers. Thank you.
Re: Wrongfully Detained for Shoplifting, but Admitted to Sheriff's
They only needed probable cause to detain you. You did something to cause them to have probable cause and that is all that is required. Take a look at the link in my signature - "Detaining Shoplifters.
Re: Shoplifting. Need HELP!
You will likely receive no leniency as you were part of a theft team, that was likely only caught the first time. A 3.4 GPA should mean you are to smart to steal, unless it is at an online college. It will be meaningless to the judge.
Re: Wrongfully Detained for Shoplifting, but Admitted to Sheriff's
This answers a lot, thanks!
Re: Shoplifting. Need HELP!
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For a good 45 seconds to a minute, I was being pulled and yanked by these two men who still never identified themselves, directly in front of the Target entrance. During the brawl, I accidentally kicked one of the men to the ground.
Did you still have the stolen property in your possession at that time? If so, what you managed to do was turn a petty theft shoplifting into attempted ROBBERY by force or fear! A very serious and violent felony (a strike-able offense) that has the potential for state prison time ... though unlikely, it is possible and it is a potential strike.
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When the Sherrif's arrived, I admitted to stealing but said I didn't enter the store with the intent to do so.
No burglary then ... unless of course you had no money or way to pay for anything.
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Currently, I have a court date issued for May 6, and would like to know how I should go about fighting this?
You are lucky as heck if they are only charging you for petty theft shoplifting! If you choose to fight this, keep in mind that the DA might decide to amend the complaint to include robbery. Keep that in mind.
When you are assigned legal counsel, you might be able to agree to some form of diversion (if this is available where you are). This might keep this from getting on your record. You appear to have no real defense to the case since you were clearly observed stealing and then fought to escape.
Your admission also hurts you.
In addition to any fines and associated fees you will have to pay as a result of a conviction, Target will also send you a civil assessment of up to $500 that you will be expected to pay.
Re: Wrongfully Detained for Shoplifting, but Admitted to Sheriff's
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Your answer feels a little judgmental and sarcastic, however I only seek professional, helpful answers.
Be sure to tell the judge and prosecutor that your resent their judgment. For goodness sake, you're a thief - that invites judgment.
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Be sure to tell the judge and prosecutor that your resent their judgment. For goodness sake, you're a thief - that invites judgment.
What's your intent? Your wasting both your time and mines. Goodbye.
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Did you still have the stolen property in your possession at that time? If so, what you managed to do was turn a petty theft shoplifting into attempted ROBBERY by force or fear! A very serious and violent felony (a strike-able offense) that has the potential for state prison time ... though unlikely, it is possible and it is a potential strike.
No burglary then ... unless of course you had no money or way to pay for anything.
You are lucky as heck if they are only charging you for petty theft shoplifting! If you choose to fight this, keep in mind that the DA might decide to amend the complaint to include robbery. Keep that in mind.
When you are assigned legal counsel, you might be able to agree to some form of diversion (if this is available where you are). This might keep this from getting on your record. You appear to have no real defense to the case since you were clearly observed stealing and then fought to escape.
Your admission also hurts you.
In addition to any fines and associated fees you will have to pay as a result of a conviction, Target will also send you a civil assessment of up to $500 that you will be expected to pay.
THIS answer was exactly what I was looking for, thorough and informative..a million thanks!
Re: Shoplifting. Need HELP!
My intent is to point out that you're a whiny crybaby. I gave you an accurate answer and it didn't cost you a penny.
If it hurts your feewings that people recognize you as a thief, well, that would be your fault.