Dance with a Child

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12-09-2011, 09:10 AM
freedom777

Dance with a Child

[CENTER]My question involves criminal law for the state of: NY

A person teaches a 14-year funk black music and dance, he began teaching dance with her, and begins to roll and rub her body, her intention was only to teach, not a sexual intent, the person has committed a crime?

Yes or no?

I did nothing, just a legal doubt.....
12-09-2011, 09:45 AM
Disagreeable

Re: Dance with a Child

If anyone, including the minor raises the issue of sexual impropriety, you may find yourself charged with a crime and forced to suffer the financial and moral outcomes associated with sexually oriented charges. Conviction is up to a judge/jury.
12-09-2011, 12:01 PM
LawResearcherMissy

Re: Dance with a Child

Define "roll and rub her body"?

I'm a lifelong student of dance, and have had instructors physically move my hands, arms, head, legs, and even hips into proper position, but none of them have ever "rubbed [my] body".

If the way you're touching your student can be construed in ANY way as sexual touching, you may find yourself on the receiving end of charges.
12-09-2011, 01:23 PM
viol8te

Re: Dance with a Child

My daughter has been in urban dance for four years. You don't have to touch. I know a thing or two about "black music and dance." You don't have to rub and roll her body. I'm not sure what the touching is for, but there is a definite difference between positioning the body for the proper stance or movement and rubbing on it. It sounds like you are saying that the rubbing and rolling was a part of the dance as opposed to being instructional.
12-09-2011, 10:51 PM
Mr. Knowitall

Re: Dance with a Child

Did this movie have Patrick Swayze in it?
12-09-2011, 11:25 PM
Disagreeable

Re: Dance with a Child

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Quoting Mr. Knowitall

Did this movie have Patrick Swayze in it?

Yeah, it was in the Catskills I believe.
12-12-2011, 03:34 PM
LawResearcherMissy

Re: Dance with a Child

People, that bit in my signature about not sending me PMs? I actually mean it.

So, our friend wants to "explain":

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Let me explain ...

If a dance teacher, he begins to dance with a girl of 15, so that your body is rubbed in it, ie, the way he dances, he touches her breasts and her vagina or butt if he did it unintentionally sex, if he only intended to teach, he committed a crime?

If he started to shake her hips with her, but he did it without touching their private parts, he would be committing a crime?

Sorry the questions, I'm not a dance teacher, I did nothing, just a matter of law, no one did anything ....

Thank you .....

First, get an anatomy lesson or three. There's no way to touch a vagina "unintentionally". That's the INTERNAL bit, and it's NOT a catch-all term for the vulva or pundendum.

If you - or anyone else - is dancing with a child such that you need to ask these questions? YOU NEED TO STOP DANCING LIKE THAT. It's one thing to brush up against someone in the course of an ensemble piece, and completely another to "rub and roll" on a child's body.

The young lady needs a new dance teacher.
12-12-2011, 03:40 PM
Security Consultant

Re: Dance with a Child

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Quoting LawResearcherMissy

People, that bit in my signature about not sending me PMs? I actually mean it.

So, our friend wants to "explain":

First, get an anatomy lesson or three. There's no way to touch a vagina "unintentionally". That's the INTERNAL bit, and it's NOT a catch-all term for the vulva or pundendum.

If you - or anyone else - is dancing with a child such that you need to ask these questions? YOU NEED TO STOP DANCING LIKE THAT. It's one thing to brush up against someone in the course of an ensemble piece, and completely another to "rub and roll" on a child's body.

The young lady needs a new dance teacher.

Holy crap!
12-12-2011, 07:43 PM
cyjeff

Re: Dance with a Child

Please allow me to also be the very first person to throw the BS flag on the whole "I am not a dance teacher this is just a question of law" stuff.

Stop molesting children and pretending it is dance instruction.

If you have been doing this and are now caught by a parent, you need an attorney NOW.
12-12-2011, 09:12 PM
LawResearcherMissy

Re: Dance with a Child

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If you have been doing this and are now caught by a parent, you need an attorney NOW.

Attorney and a bodyguard. Because if any child of mine told me their dance instructor was "rubbing and rolling" on them, I'd rip the instructor's lungs out with my bare hands. I imagine I'm not the only mother who would react that way.
12-13-2011, 05:23 AM
viol8te

Re: Dance with a Child

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Quoting LawResearcherMissy

Attorney and a bodyguard. Because if any child of mine told me their dance instructor was "rubbing and rolling" on them, I'd rip the instructor's lungs out with my bare hands. I imagine I'm not the only mother who would react that way.

I'm not going to say what the dads are thinking.
12-13-2011, 08:22 AM
souperdave

Re: Dance with a Child

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Quoting cyjeff

Stop molesting children and pretending it is dance instruction.

That's it right there!!! When he gets arrested for it he better stay in jail! Protection from the parents!

Of course then, when cellmates Billy Ray and Bubba find out what he's in for, he gonna find out what it's like to be on the receivin' end of "rollin' and rubbin'"!