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  • 11-30-2011, 08:21 PM
    wrm1973
    Re: I Was Banned from a Casino, Not Given Any Valid Reason Why
    @Dogmatique, Not true at all. I have a post on another forum, and a reporter from the Post Gazette responded with an interest to interview me about my experience.

    @cbg, I will let you know tomorrow after I meet with my attorney. :)
  • 11-30-2011, 08:25 PM
    free9man
    Re: I Was Banned from a Casino, Not Given Any Valid Reason Why
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    It's not a free-for-all as you suggest. There are rules that ALL businesses must follow, that is, if they wish to stay in business.

    It is most assuredly a free-for-all unless they are in violation of the law. You have given ZERO evidence they have broken any law. Beyond that, they are free to have any rules they wish and ban anyone they wish so long as it is not in violation of a law. Those rules they must follow to stay in business are the laws/regulations they must follow and they have not broken any here. They banned you. Casinos are in the business of taking your money. They only stop taking someone's money when it is no longer a good business decision. There is obviously more to the story than you asking for comps, calling the GCB and going to the owner. You never answered my earlier question. Did you at least try and work it out at lower levels or did you just go over their heads? The house decided you were a bad bet and sent you packing. Move on.

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    I will absolutely sue this casino, and I will win.

    No, you will not.


    Ahh...the customer is #1/always right argument. That is no longer a valid business maxim.

    You may go on the news with this and they might display you in a positive light and the casino in a negative light. That will not necessarily get you back in. You should be concentrating on your recovery and seeking another venue to explore rather than fighting them for nothing.
  • 11-30-2011, 08:27 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: I Was Banned from a Casino, Not Given Any Valid Reason Why
    You do that. ;)

    @cbg (and maybe a couple of others): I predict...the OG Effect. :D :D

    (And I'm not being mean here but...this is also the holiday season where they're trying to get rookie reporters out on the street getting experience. I'm just saying. )
  • 11-30-2011, 08:30 PM
    free9man
    Re: I Was Banned from a Casino, Not Given Any Valid Reason Why
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    I predict...the OG Effect. :D :D

    Guess I'm still too new...what is the OG Effect?
  • 11-30-2011, 08:36 PM
    wrm1973
    Re: I Was Banned from a Casino, Not Given Any Valid Reason Why
    @free; Again, will have to see what the attorney says tomorrow. Never say never. I just find it hard to believe that you folks can't see what they did as being such a sleazy move. I mean, really??

    Do you think the casino would want this in the media, or in front of a jury? I'm thinking not. Casino patrons visit a casino for fun, a chance to win, etc. If they see a casino slighting a VIP PLAYER, can you imagine the image that's going to portray to other patrons? Come on now... from a patrons point of view, there is an ethical expectation that at least some part of the casino-patron relationship will be somewhat honest. What they did to me was anything but honest, insulting and I will do everything in my power to sue this casino.

    @Dog, The Post Gazette doesn't hire rookies... it's one of the greatest news outlets in the country.
  • 11-30-2011, 08:38 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: I Was Banned from a Casino, Not Given Any Valid Reason Why
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    @free; Again, will have to see what the attorney says tomorrow. Never say never. I just find it hard to believe that you folks can't see what they did as being such a sleazy move. I mean, really??

    Do you think the casino would want this in the media, or in front of a jury? I'm thinking not. Casino patrons visit a casino for fun, a chance to win, etc. If they see a casino slighting a VIP PLAYER, can you imagine the image that's going to portray to other patrons? Come on now... from a patrons point of view, there is an ethical expectation that at least some part of the casino-patron relationship will be somewhat honest. What they did to me was anything but honest, insulting and I will do everything in my power to sue this casino.


    Here's what you need to understand:

    sleazy and unethical do NOT equate to "illegal".

    But please let us know what the attorney says. And given that the attorney would likely not mind at all, please share the name of the attorney because I'm sure at least a couple of us wouldn't mind asking him/her questions of our own.
  • 11-30-2011, 08:42 PM
    cbg
    Re: I Was Banned from a Casino, Not Given Any Valid Reason Why
    The OG effect occurs when, after being given an answer he does not like, a poster is suddenly somehow able to find an attorney who disagrees completely with the board, assures the poster that he has a winning case, and takes the case on contingency or even pro-bono. Often this attorney is reached after hours, on weekends, or even on holidays. (We had a three-fer this weekend on another board; it was after hours on Thanksgiving Saturday when this mythical attorney assured the poster of his winning case.) Amazingly enough, these easily accessible attorneys are able to overcome some of the other obstacles us lesser mortals face; one extreme example managed to win his case and gain a sizeable award for his client in less than six weeks without the statutorily required authorization from the regulatory agency that oversees the issue in question, despite the fact that all other such claims run between six months and two years to complete.

    I agree that this poster is a prime candidate.
  • 11-30-2011, 08:44 PM
    free9man
    Re: I Was Banned from a Casino, Not Given Any Valid Reason Why
    As I stated earlier, the only way you get a win on this is if they give you something to go away.

    No one here has made any comment on the ethical/moral ramifications of what they did. We are only here to speak to the legality of it, which absent some evidence you have not shared, is 100% legal.

    Sue away. You will lose.

    I stand by my earlier comment that there is more to this story. A casino will not ban a source of income without a good reason. The comps probably are a small part of it. Bothering the owner, especially if you did not avail yourself of other remedies first (did you?), was another part of it. Calling the GCB was probably the final nail in the proverbial coffin.
  • 11-30-2011, 08:45 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: I Was Banned from a Casino, Not Given Any Valid Reason Why
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    The OG effect occurs when, after being given an answer he does not like, a poster is suddenly somehow able to find an attorney who disagrees completely with the board, assures the poster that he has a winning case, and takes the case on contingency or even pro-bono. Often this attorney is reached after hours, on weekends, or even on holidays. (We had a three-fer this weekend on another board; it was after hours on Thanksgiving Saturday when this mythical attorney assured the poster of his winning case.) Amazingly enough, these easily accessible attorneys are able to overcome some of the other obstacles us lesser mortals face; one extreme example managed to win his case and gain a sizeable award for his client in less than six weeks without the statutorily required authorization from the regulatory agency that oversees the issue in question, despite the fact that all other such claims run between six months and two years to complete.

    I agree that this poster is a prime candidate.

    AND...

    So many court hearings seem to take place during these holiday weekends!

    Amazing, truly!
  • 11-30-2011, 08:45 PM
    free9man
    Re: I Was Banned from a Casino, Not Given Any Valid Reason Why
    Quote:

    Quoting cbg
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    The OG effect occurs when, after being given an answer he does not like, a poster is suddenly somehow able to find an attorney who disagrees completely with the board, assures the poster that he has a winning case, and takes the case on contingency or even pro-bono. Often this attorney is reached after hours, on weekends, or even on holidays. (We had a three-fer this weekend on another board; it was after hours on Thanksgiving Saturday when this mythical attorney assured the poster of his winning case.) Amazingly enough, these easily accessible attorneys are able to overcome some of the other obstacles us lesser mortals face; one extreme example managed to win his case and gain a sizeable award for his client in less than six weeks without the statutorily required authorization from the regulatory agency that oversees the issue in question, despite the fact that all other such claims run between six months and two years to complete.

    I agree that this poster is a prime candidate.

    Thanks! I've seen that here a few times but wasn't aware that it had its own name.
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