Can Name Change Be Removed from Records

This is becoming oddly entertaining!

(Yes, I'd like fries with that. Since you're about to ask)

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Quoting styleguy

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So, if Burger King sells me a whopper, and I'm dissatisfied - I need to write Burger King corporate?

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"I ordered a Whopper and got... this!"

"That's a Whopper."

"Yes, but it's not what I wanted."

"What did you want?"

"A filet mignon topped with crab Louie, and a side of bearnaise sauce."

"But you ordered a Whopper. And we don't sell filet mignon, crab Louie or bearnaise sauce."

"Whatta I gotta do here? Complain to corporate?"

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Quoting Mr. Knowitall

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"I ordered a Whopper and got... this!"

"That's a Whopper."

"Yes, but it's not what I wanted."

"What did you want?"

"A filet mignon topped with crab Louie, and a side of bearnaise sauce."

"But you ordered a Whopper. And we don't sell filet mignon, crab Louie or bearnaise sauce."

"Whatta I gotta do here? Complain to corporate?"

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If this site had a "like" button, I would have just pressed it about a hundred times. I'm just saying.

Are you expecting a message board to miraculously come up with some way you can force the court to seal the record? Really? Because we don't write the laws, nor do we vote on their passage. It doesn't matter how many times you explain your reasons for wanting the record sealed; nor does it matter whether we "get" it or not. The fact remains that the law does not provide a means by which you can force the court to seal the record of your name change. And if light suddenly dawns on Marble Head (as we say in Massachusetts - state joke) and we all cry out in unison, "Ah! Now we understand why he wants the name change sealed, and his cause is just!" it won't matter a hoot because there STILL won't be a law you can invoke that will force the court to do what you want.

The way to get a law changed is to lobby your elected representatives. Not to gripe to a message board that we don't "get it".

BTW, just thought I'd mention - both my father and my brothers have two middle names, the second of which is commonly used as a last name. In fact, it IS a last name - my grandmother's maiden name.

Jes' saying.

Not at all. This thread ended up getting diverted and turned into stupidity. We might as well be talking about professional wrestling at this point. I'm not asking to change any law.

1. I wasn't allowed to even make the request or speak with the judge - the clerk simply took my papers, went to some back room and that was it. When I arrived, I even told her I planned to make this request. I was never given that opportunity.

2. I thought someone would be able to inform me as to whether or not I should even consider spending the money on legal counsel to pursue this.

3. I know I could write some State Legislator, wait a few years for a reply in writing telling me this isn't important enough, can't be done right now, more important issues on the table, etc.

It may be written on the books that everyday citizens have the power to request having a law changed, but that rarely, if ever happens in real life. Telling someone "you don't like it, write your state legislator!" is actually treating that person as if they were some sort of peon. Especially, knowing it won't matter. I think state income tax here has too low of a threshold to pay 9.8%. Lowest in the country to pay such a percent. Does that mean I plan to make some formal request to lower the state income tax? Please, get real and stop with the trite replies. The difference is, the option to have a name change sealed is a possibility with the right reasons, whereas it is impossible to not pay the designated percent in your tax bracket. I think someone making 62K a year, shouldn't be taxed the same percent as someone making 500K a year. Maybe if enough people stood up and said something it would be lowered. Society fears going against the system. The only population gain seen here is via illegal immigration as well. I'm not trying to be some sort of martyr for name change law. I should make that clear.

Some posters may find the reasons I've listed to be amusing, but they are very real to me.

If I knew were to look, it would be interesting to find data showing where one person was able to change a law themselves. Preferably not having to reach back to Jim Crowe days either.

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styleguy;513856]Not at all. This thread ended up getting diverted and turned into stupidity. We might as well be talking about professional wrestling at this point. I'm not asking to change any law.

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but you are asking for something to happen that has no provisions in law to happen. Due to that, your action is to either give up or try to change the law.

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1. I wasn't allowed to even make the request or speak with the judge - the clerk simply took my papers, went to some back room and that was it. When I arrived, I even told her I planned to make this request. I was never given that opportunity.

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maybe because the clerk knew a bit more than you did about what you were asking about and knew it just wasn't a possibility.

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2. I thought someone would be able to inform me as to whether or not I should even consider spending the money on legal counsel to pursue this.

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I figured an intelligent person would be able to understand: the law does not allow for the action you seek therefore, it would be a waste of money to hire a lawyer to attempt such an action.

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3. I know I could write some State Legislator, wait a few years for a reply in writing telling me this isn't important enough, can't be done right now, more important issues on the table, etc.

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Oh, so your problem is so much more important than other problems you believe you should just jump to the head of the line. Good luck with that. Maybe that is why you are having such a hard time understanding what you are being told here.

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It may be written on the books that everyday citizens have the power to request having a law changed, but that rarely, if ever happens in real life. Telling someone "you don't like it, write your state legislator!" is actually treating that person as if they were some sort of peon.

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no, it's not. If you had paid attention to your government studies in high school, you would know that that is the proper means to seek a change in a law.

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If I knew were to look, it would be interesting to find data showing where one person was able to change a law themselves.

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I guess you need gov 101.

laws are drafted by the legislators. They argue about them amongst themselves for awhile and then vote as to pass them or not. They then get sent to the government head (fed= president, state= governor) who either signs them or not.

Now, to go back a step or two; a legislator drafts new legislation when they have reason to believe they have a better way of doing things. Since not all legislators are real smart and can come up with ideas on their own, they rely on their constituents to suggest new laws. That usually comes in the form of some disgruntled citizen belly aching about how poorly they were treated under the current laws and they want something to change (kind of like your situation).

Well, if the legislator agrees, they might actually take the time to do some research and if the legislator believes enough people feel that same way, they might actually draft a bill to propose some changes to the current laws. Of course, if that legislator does not agree with you, you are welcome to vote for his competitor at the next election.

Now, since I know you won't care about that last part because you, due to some entitlement issues, believe that just because you believe it should be, the legislator needs to drop everything and get right on your situation, regardless of the fact that you are the only person to ever contact him/her about this concern. The reality is; S/he has all of their constituents to be concerned about, not just you.

So, what do you do about it so you can find more people that will also contact your legislator and ask the law be changed? You start a campaign where you take this issue to the public forum and try to persuade others to contact your legislator to try to change the law. If enough people express their desire to see the law changed, that would surely move your place in line a few spaces.

Since you do not want any publicity, I guess that means you are stuck with good ol' status quo.

I counted several times when you were told that the law did not provide for what you wanted, and you acknowledged that as far back as the first page. If you really needed someone to add "so you should not bother calling a lawyer about it" before you understood, then I wonder who the clueless one on this thread really is?

Obviously everyone is ignoring the fact I didn't get to make the request to the judge. After I received my name change document, I specifically asked the clerk if I could speak with him, she said no, and it was too late, already moved onto the next person. She ended up talking to him for me about the seal - I wanted to do it myself. Remember, I let her know as soon as I arrived at the courthouse I wanted to make this known to him, myself. Afterwards, I didn't want to start some argument with people around me, but I was very unhappy.

Is that fair? Because some of you dislike me, I'm sure you will say it is. Unlike most posters here and don't sit back and bow down to you because you went to some mid-tier law school.

As for the theoretical-government-studies-yes-you-can-change-the-law, it's basically the same as debating communism vs capitalism on paper for hours on end. We aren't going to find much agreement on that. Any lawmaker would probably consider it frivolous given the bizarre reasoning. Very few people actually change their first names, and the only name change most people know about is a woman taking her husband last's name.

All I was asking is...would the fees to hire an attorney, and have a letter written to the court be practical? Think of it as a formal "motion to seal." If it gets denied it gets denied. Like I said in my original post, I believe I could have made a compelling argument and wasn't allowed to do so.

The world does not revolve around you to the degree that you evidently think it does. I neither know you, nor care to know you, enough to either like or disllike you.

All right, since you are evidently unable to grasp the concept from what has already been said, if it will make you happy I'll answer using the words you insist you must have.

No. The fees to hire an attorney and have a letter written to the court would not be practical and would be a waste of time and money.

Now that someone has phrased the answer in the terms you insist you will not have an answer without, can we please now drop the entire useless subject?

Evidently, I don't think that by any means. I had to stand up against stupid replies, and I did.

By the way, it's "Alright". All right doesn't make sense. I'd be concerned as to whatever law school you may have gotten into. You must have had great El Sat scores.