I am a 17 year old female. My fiance is 21. We live in Oklahoma. We want to have a baby. My question is, if I do get pregnant Can he get into any trouble even though my parents are aware we are together and if I do get pregnant Can I become legally emancipted?
Can I Get Emancipated If I Get Pregnant
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03-30-2011, 03:36 PMSessy_1112Can I Get Emancipated If I Get Pregnant
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03-30-2011, 03:41 PMcyjeffRe: Emancipation of a Minor
Being pregnant does not make you emancipated. In fact, it makes it almost impossible to become emancipated because you have two mouths to prove you can afford to feed.
Having a child to prove you are mature is like jumping off a cliff to prove you can bounce. Don't imperil another life to prove you can live your own. -
03-30-2011, 03:48 PMSessy_1112Re: Emancipation of a Minor
I am not saying that I am doing it to get emancipated. I am saying that if it does happen Can I get emancipated. My fiance has a job and I have a job. He has an apartment. I pay for my own stuff. My parents don't do anything for me.
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03-30-2011, 03:50 PMDogmatiqueRe: Emancipation of a MinorQuote:
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No.
Being a pregnant teen tells the court you need more - not less - adult supervision. -
03-30-2011, 03:56 PMSessy_1112Re: Emancipation of a Minor
Even if my parents are druged out and aren't home and don't do anything for me?
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03-30-2011, 03:58 PMDogmatiqueRe: Emancipation of a MinorQuote:
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SPECIALLY if that's the case.
If you are TRULY being neglected, you must contact child services.
So, are both of your parents drugged out 24/7? Not home at all? Ever? -
03-30-2011, 04:00 PMSessy_1112Re: Emancipation of a Minor
Well, they are there.. Physically. Not mentally. One has already been to prison for eight years (my dad).
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03-30-2011, 04:08 PMDogmatiqueRe: Emancipation of a MinorQuote:
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Please understand that I'm trying to help you, ok?
In order for a minor to become emancipated, s/he must show that not only is s/he capable of supporting him/herself (example: can you afford to pay market-value rent? all of the utilities? health insurance? transportation? clothing? food? AND keep good grades?) but also that s/he is mature enough to live independently.
Exaggerating your circumstances and wanting to or trying to become pregnant at 17 is not going to convince any court, anywhere, of that.
The State doesn't want to support you and your baby if/when your fiance breaks up with you.
See where I'm coming from? -
03-30-2011, 04:12 PMSessy_1112Re: Emancipation of a Minor
What are you talking about exaggerate my Circumstances. I wasn't trying to get pregnant. It just happened.. Ya know accidents. And he isn't going to break up with me. We have already started the wedding plans and have a lot of money invested. and half of the things we own are in both of our names. and yes I Can pay for everything listed above and keep my grades up.
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03-30-2011, 04:14 PMcyjeffRe: Emancipation of a Minor
Fiancée is not a legally recognized term.
Therefore, YOU would have to prove that YOU can provide everything you and your child need. Insurance, housing, clothing, food, entertainment, transportation.
You don't have a chance in hell.
No judge in any jurisdiction is going to emancipate you so that you can go shack up with the man that impregnated you. -
03-30-2011, 04:16 PMDogmatiqueRe: Emancipation of a MinorQuote:
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You're not being emancipated.
Period.
Even if.
Ok?
Have a great evening! -
03-30-2011, 04:18 PMcyjeffRe: Emancipation of a MinorOh... so we have gone from "what if I am pregnant" to "I wasn't trying to get pregnant".Quote:
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That does change things.
You really have no chance. -
03-30-2011, 04:18 PMDogmatiqueRe: Emancipation of a MinorQuote:
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See her other thread ;) -
03-30-2011, 04:20 PMSessy_1112Re: Emancipation of a Minor
cyjeff and Dogmatique you should both go to hell. I DID NOT DO THIS TO GET EMANCIPATED! I AM WONDERING THAT SINCE I AM PREGO IF I CAN GET EMANCIPATED! AND I STATED THAT I HAVE A JOB AND CAN PROVIDE THE NECESSARY THINGS! OBVIOUSLY cyjeff YOU CAN'T READ!
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03-30-2011, 04:21 PMDogmatiqueRe: Emancipation of a MinorQuote:
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Apparently we're not the ones with a reading problem.
Sessy_1112.
You are a pregnant teenager.
There isn't a court in the COUNTRY going to emancipate you in order for you to go and live with your boyfriend.
Ok?
Now have a great, stress-free pregnancy and once the child is born come back and we'll help you establish child support and paternity.
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03-30-2011, 04:25 PMcyjeffRe: Emancipation of a MinorLighten up.Quote:
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You asked if you could get emancipated.
I stated that it was virtually impossible for a pregnant teen to be emancipated to go live with the man that impregnated her.
I cannot help if you don't like the legal answer. It is what it is.
I doubt very much a 17 year old pregnant teen can make enough money to fully support herself and a child to a court's satisfaction.
Like it or not. Play the "what about if I throw THIS into the conversation" game all you want. Ultimately, your choice is to stay with your parents or go into foster care if a COURT deems your parents unfit.
Notice that neither choice allows you to go play house just because you really want to.
I cannot help that you don't like the answer. It is the only one you have. -
03-30-2011, 04:27 PMSessy_1112Re: Emancipation of a Minor
I see what y'all have posted thank you. And yes. cyjeff does have a reading problem because I stated to you that I Could pay for me and the baby then he comes through and says the I have to prove that I Can support the baby and I which I had stated I Can do.
And you are still a beligernt asshole -
03-30-2011, 04:28 PMDogmatiqueRe: Emancipation of a MinorQuote:
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Tell me, what kind of job do YOU have - not Dad's child support, not your boyfriend's job but your job - that pays enough to provide for these things?
I'm genuinely curious. -
03-30-2011, 04:32 PMSessy_1112Re: Emancipation of a Minor
I work at a Dental Depo and a Mazzio's. and why we are on the subject of my dad's Child support I don't get it remember!
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03-30-2011, 04:34 PMDogmatiqueRe: Emancipation of a MinorQuote:
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Exactly my point.
Have a great evening.
Remember this site when you do file to establish paternity and child support for your baby. :) -
03-30-2011, 04:35 PMcyjeffRe: Emancipation of a MinorNo, I am just absolutely sure you have no idea how much money it takes to raise a child.Quote:
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Okay... let's break this down.
How much do you spend on....
Housing?
Utilities?
Car and Insurance?
Food?
Medical Insurance for you and the baby?
Telephone... cell or landline?
Clothing for you and the baby?
Entertainment?
Education expenses up to and including day care while you are in school?
Basically, you are talking about $3,000 a month... and that is only if your job offers you insurance. If it doesn't, up that number by $500 or so.
Considering you are a minor and can only work approx 20 hours a week, that means that you need to make approx $38 bucks an hour. Let's make that $50 because you will have to put half aside to live on when the baby comes and you can't work.
Are you currently making $38-50 an hour?
Now, you will answer that you will just go on the state rolls for some of those things. No judge will emancipate you if any part of your business plan includes the words "public assistance". You see, the judge will not want to emancipate you just so that you can become a burden on society.
How are you parents on drugs all the time and you want to pursue your father for child support? How does that work? -
03-30-2011, 04:38 PMSessy_1112Re: Emancipation of a Minor
Please. Tell me. What is wrong with wrong at either of those two places?
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03-30-2011, 04:41 PMcyjeffRe: Emancipation of a MinorI will translate that to "what is wrong with working at either of those two places?"Quote:
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Not a thing.
It just will take more than a couple of minimum wage jobs to raise a child and yourself to a court's satisfaction. -
03-30-2011, 04:43 PMSessy_1112Re: Emancipation of a Minor
One is minimum wage yes. The other I get paid $8.50 and due for a $.50 raise soon.
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03-30-2011, 04:46 PMcyjeffRe: Emancipation of a MinorEven if you work 40 hours a week at both (an impossibility for a pregnant woman and/or a woman with a child while going to school full time), you don't make enough for a court to declare you fit to emancipate.Quote:
Quoting Sessy_1112
For my youngest, I was paying $600 a month for day care alone. I just wiped out your take home pay and we haven't even put a roof over your head or food in your belly. And we are assuming that you want to spend NO time with your child as you work 80 hours a week.
You can throw another tantrum if you want. My answer still won't change. -
03-30-2011, 05:19 PMcbgRe: Emancipation of a Minor
Sessy, I have not completed reading this thread, but I'm going to jump in here. Whether you like it or not, the answer is no. If you get pregnant you cannot get emancipated.
There are two reasons for this.
1.) In your state, an emancipated minor can do exactly one thing that a non-emancipated minor cannot do - sign a contract. Emancipation, in your state, does NOT give you the right to move out of your parents' home.
2.) EVEN IF I take you at your word that you can, all alone with no help from your boyfriend (which is what it would take) support both yourself and a prospective baby, getting pregnant at 17 tells a judge that you need more supervision, not less. There is simply no chance that a judge is going to emancipate a pregnant teenager, no matter how well she claims she can support herself. And if the judge did emancipate you (which he won't) it wouldn't do you any good since, in your state, you would still have to live with your parents unless they gave you permission to move out.
So you can stop with the pouting and the insulting the volunteers who are trying to explain the law to you. They have done so; it's simply that the answer is not the one you want to hear.