Reckless Driving: Burnout, Supposedly Fishtailed
My question involves a reckless driving ticket from the State of: Virginia
I am 16 years old and have had my license for 3 months. The other day me and my friends decided to do a small burnout at a stop sign. He drives and Mustang GT and I drive a red Hyundai Genesis Coupe. After he did, his it was my turn; I slammed it in second pulling out and the wheels got a little loose. I had previously looked both ways and saw no cars close to me, but the next thing I know a cop was flying towards me and I knew I was SOL!! He was a complete dick and told me my back end was loose and I took up both lanes. Apparently he was all the way down at the other end of the road and saw me. I have limited slip and find it impossible to fishtail. My question to you guys is : Can i fight to get the ticket completely dismissed with all of these points: limited slip, red car stereotyping, cop was a long ways away. And what are the different routes that you all would take if you were in my situation? Thanks!
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I have limited slip and find it impossible to fishtail.
actually, that is what allows you to fishtail. Without limited slip, only one wheel will spin so the other will still provide enough grip to generally prevent fishtailing (lateral motion). With LS, both wheels will spin and as such, you have reduced traction with both wheels and the vehicle will fishtail.
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Can i fight to get the ticket completely dismissed with all of these points:
No, see above.
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red car stereotyping,
no
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cop was a long ways away
define "long ways away". He couldn't have been that far away if:
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I had previously looked both ways and saw no cars close to me, but the next thing I know a cop was flying towards me
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And what are the different routes that you all would take if you were in my situation?
try not sounding like a little spoiled kid that was somehow picked on and man up and face your punishment.
Oh, and I would try real hard to not call the cop a dick, or the judge if he does something you don't like as well.
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Sorry, Im not trying to sound like a little spoiled kid or anything but limited slip allows only 1 wheel to spin. Positive traction allows both wheels to spin, therefore fishtailing. So before you go and act like a know-it-all, I would get the facts straight.
P.S.: I was just looking for some advice not some guy to tell me that I am spoiled and how I need to man up. Oh and BTW google the limited slip DA.
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1LL;491485]Sorry, Im not trying to sound like a little spoiled kid or anything but limited slip allows only 1 wheel to spin
. sorry, you are incorrect.
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Positive traction allows both wheels to spin, therefore fishtailing.
Posi-trac was a trademarked name (can't remember who trademarked it but believe it was GM) by one of the major US auto manufacturers of their version of a limited slip rear end.
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So before you go and act like a know-it-all, I would get the facts straight.
I think you need to get yours straight.You are showing yourself to being that spoiled brat again.
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P.S.: I was just looking for some advice not some guy to tell me that I am spoiled and how I need to man up.
ya got it anyway.
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Oh and BTW google the limited slip DA.
Google it? Hell kid, I worked on them for over 20 years. You have 4 basic types of differentials.
1. open
2. limited slip
3. locker
4. spool/locked/solid
want to discuss any of them?
a little history for you:
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the Eaton Posi Limited Slip Differential was first introduced in 1961 on a 1/2 ton GM Pickup Truck. It gained notoriety during the 60's/70's muscle car era. Today, we offer the Eaton Positraction Limited Slip Differential for older and newer automobiles and light trucks in the aftermarket.
http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/Produc...iLSD/index.htm
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I love 60 year old hags that have a chip on there shoulder because they never got laid and hated there life. So why dont you go **** yourself and give me some actual advice?
"So in the Torsen LSDs, the job of these helical gears is to basically transfer torque or power, either to both drive wheels at the same time or a Ratio (Bias) of power to the drive wheels. Some other generic names that these types of LSD can go by is a "Torque Sensing" or "Torque Biasing". In a nutshell, Torsen LSDs can "detect" when one wheel loses traction over the other and transfers this power automatically (or as I like to say, "AutoMAGICALLY!"). This is important for when you go around corners and one wheel needs to spin faster than the other. You want most of the power going to the outside drive wheel.. When used with the Electronic Traction Control or Electronic Stability Control found on many cars a Torsen unit can aid in getting out of bad driving conditions like in sand, dirt, gravel, snow and even on ice."
Therefore, if i have limited slip, my torque will transfer to my outer wheel while turning. So only one wheel breaks loose. Congratulations for looking stupid
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D1LL;491493]I love 60 year old hags that have a chip on there shoulder because they never got laid and hated there life. So why dont you go **** yourself and give me some actual advice?
do you mean "their" life? and I'm not the one with the ticket to deal with. It would appear you are the one not happy. I just love it when a little 16 yo kid tells me about getting laid. Ya, I'm sure your experience is just so extensive you could teach an old guy like me a thing or two (yes, that is sarcasm)
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"So in the Torsen LSDs, the job of these helical gears is to basically transfer torque or power, either to both drive wheels at the same time or a Ratio (Bias) of power to the drive wheels. Some other generic names that these types of LSD can go by is a "Torque Sensing" or "Torque Biasing". In a nutshell, Torsen LSDs can "detect" when one wheel loses traction over the other and transfers this power automatically (or as I like to say, "AutoMAGICALLY!"). This is important for when you go around corners and one wheel needs to spin faster than the other. You want most of the power going to the outside drive wheel.. When used with the Electronic Traction Control or Electronic Stability Control found on many cars a Torsen unit can aid in getting out of bad driving conditions like in sand, dirt, gravel, snow and even on ice."
Therefore, if i have limited slip, my torque will transfer to my outer wheel while turning. So only one wheel breaks loose. Congratulations for looking stupid[
automagically? That is the term of an ignorant kid that does not understand the principles and function of what they are trying to talk about.
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Therefore, if i have limited slip, my torque will transfer to my outer wheel while turning. So only one wheel breaks loose. Congratulations for looking stupid
I just love how you take one small portion of what was said and try to use it to prove you are correct. It didn't work.
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When a Torsen differential is employed, the slower-moving wheel always receives more torque than the faster-moving wheel.
Do you want to guess which is the slower moving wheel when you are cornering? (hint: it's not the outside wheel) but regardless, it still doesn't allow one wheel to break loose. If you can understand it; by reducing the torque to the wheel that is spinning the fastest and applying that torque to the wheel spinning the slowest, what happens is; if one wheel begins to spin, the torque is transferred to the other wheel. This prevents the one wheel from spinning by reducing the power to the wheel without traction and shifts it to the wheel with traction. i.e. either both wheels spin or both wheels don't spin.
and you want advice?
ask your daddy who bought you your car for the money to pay for the ticket. So far you have provided nothing that would even start to work as a defense. It's as simple as: you screwed up, you got caught, it's going to cost you.
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I have just realized why you are so cranky:you have 10000 posts on this website. I would advise that you do something better with your life than spend all of your time on this site.
oh btw that Automagically crap you said i made up, well i got it from a link dipshit
http://genesisforums.org/transmissio...tials-lsd.html
So why don't you stop commenting and maybe let someone else give me some advice that I asked for in the first place and not some old arrogant man that thinks he's God's little gift to this world.
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Enough. If you can't behave, post in a different forum.
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D1LL;491511]I have just realized why you are so cranky:you have 10000 posts on this website. I would advise that you do something better with your life than spend all of your time on this site.
I have time to do things like this because I'm not out getting tickets and having to figure out how to get out of them.
You are the one claiming creation:
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(or as I like to say, "AutoMAGICALLY!")
thanks for the link though. I guess you missed this part from that exact same post:
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They will plant power down to the ground and let you light up both tires when you feel like turning off the traction control and showing off to your friends.
Since you want to believe I am wrong, listen to your little Hyundai buddy and believe. If I understand your actions of the moment, you were trying to show off for your friend, right?
and from your first post:
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and the wheels got a little loose.
Wheels is plural so even you admit that both wheels were spinning.
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So why don't you stop commenting and maybe let someone else give me some advice that I asked for in the first place
anybody that wants to post is free to do so.
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and not some old arrogant man that thinks he's God's little gift to this world.
We are all God's gifts (even you. hopefully there is a return counter available for your parents to utilize) and it's not arrogance when you really are superior to the person you are addressing.
As to help for your situation; you still haven't given anything that would help you avoid the full brunt of the penalties associated with such a ticket. Nobody (including me) can wave a magic wand and give you a defense when there is none.
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Now that we've gotten the arguing out of the way.
Reckless is a VERY serious charge. If you were an adult, jail would be within the realm of possibilities as well as a lifetime criminal record.
The first thing I'd do (other than seek out a lawyer) is see if the commonwealth's attorney will reduce the charge to a non-misdemeanor, possibly in exchange for taking traffic school.
You are NOT going to get a dismissal based on any claims of the vehicle equipment.
Mind you, you should be talking to your parents. It is absolutely required that one of them accompany you to court and if assigned (or volunteer for it) traffic school.
Being 16 with any sort of violation (even if reduced) is going to mean traffic school anyhow, so you might as well use it as a bargaining chip.