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  • 10-15-2010, 09:26 AM
    babybella
    Trying to Get Emancipation
    i am a 17 year old i lived with my mom most of my life. Me and her would fight all the time so she kicked me out. so now i am living with my dad and my new step mom,I have been living with them for a year. They don't want me living there but they will not let me go.All we do is fight and she calls me a low life s***. They let me stay with my boyfriend over the summer. I took care of my self and They let me go over on the weekend. They told me i have to start taking care of myself but they will not let me go i don't want to go to a foster home but there house is not clean they have cockroach bad and i don't know who can help me they will not sign and i told the school they wont help me i don't have a job i looking for one help me i don't know what to do.I need to get emancipation i cant go anywhere who can help me without my parent knowing anything yet
  • 10-15-2010, 09:38 AM
    aardvarc
    Re: I Am 17/F I Need Help I Trying to Get Emancipation Plz
    Emancipation possibilities and procedures vary by state, and you haven't told us yours.

    However, in ALL states where emancipation is possible, you must be able to show the court that you and you alone have the ability and a proven history of being able to support yourself 100% (rent, utilities, health insurance, food, clothing, transportation, ettc.) while at the same time making above average grades in school. With no job, you have no chance of emancipation. Even WITH a job, you'd need to be making enough to pay for your OWN place, and have a history of several months of earning a wage high enough to cover all of those expenses. No job means no emancipation.

    Emancipation is NOT just about getting out from under parental control. It's based on documented history of self care and granted only in extreme cases where there is a NEED for emancipation. Verbal abuse isn't even a factor. If your parents have you living in neglectful or unsanitary conditions, then you need to contact Child Protective Services. If they determine that your living conditions are unhealthy, they'll remove you from the home and THEY will decide where you'll live.
  • 10-15-2010, 09:40 AM
    cyjeff
    Re: I Am 17/F I Need Help I Trying to Get Emancipation Plz
    When you saw the sticky at the top of the forum you posted in, why didn't you read them?

    Whey you saw the question "what is your state" why didn't you answer?

    Quickly, without a job you don't have a kleenex's chance in a blast furnace. Not gonna have... not should have... not because of.... you need to be able to prove you can support yourself in all 50 states.
  • 10-15-2010, 10:14 AM
    CourtClerk
    Re: I Am 17/F I Need Help I Trying to Get Emancipation Plz
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    in all 50 states.

    That's not necessarily true. Some states don't allow for emancipation at all...:p

    The court doesn't emancipate you so you can go shack up with your boyfriend. However, since the age of majority in PA is 18, you can go do what you want after you turn 18, but please educate yourself and don't make any babies. None at all.
  • 10-19-2010, 11:43 AM
    babybella
    Re: I Am 17/F I Need Help I Trying to Get Emancipation Plz
    no not going to a foster home
  • 10-19-2010, 12:07 PM
    cyjeff
    Re: I Am 17/F I Need Help I Trying to Get Emancipation Plz
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    no not going to a foster home

    Then a judge would say that you really weren't abused but, instead, was a kid willing to say or do anything to or about anyone to allow yourself to live with a boy you are not allowed to live with.

    Again, without a job, this isn't even an intellectual exercise... this discussion is just a waste of time.
  • 10-19-2010, 12:34 PM
    LawResearcherMissy
    Re: I Am 17/F I Need Help I Trying to Get Emancipation Plz
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    no not going to a foster home

    Then you're not being abused, and as a survivor of ACTUAL abuse, I would appreciate it if you shut your whiny little mouth about how abused you are. People who are being abused will take ANY WAY OUT they're offered. Cram it, princess. You're just mad that Mommy and Daddy have rules.

    This is all moot. The state of Pennsylvania does not have any statutory provisions for the emancipation of minors. In some counties, you can get a judge to declare you emancipated if your circumstances are considered extraordinary enough to merit it, but the fact of the matter is that a whiny, half-literate, jobless child who's pissed because her parents have rules is not in any sort of extraordinary circumstances at all.

    Emancipation is not an option. Suck it up til you're 18, then leave. That's your option.
  • 10-19-2010, 12:41 PM
    PattyPA
    Re: I Am 17/F I Need Help I Trying to Get Emancipation Plz
    :) I heart Missy.
  • 10-19-2010, 12:46 PM
    cyjeff
    Re: I Am 17/F I Need Help I Trying to Get Emancipation Plz
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    Then you're not being abused, and as a survivor of ACTUAL abuse, I would appreciate it if you shut your whiny little mouth about how abused you are. People who are being abused will take ANY WAY OUT they're offered. Cram it, princess. You're just mad that Mommy and Daddy have rules.

    This is all moot. The state of Pennsylvania does not have any statutory provisions for the emancipation of minors. In some counties, you can get a judge to declare you emancipated if your circumstances are considered extraordinary enough to merit it, but the fact of the matter is that a whiny, half-literate, jobless child who's pissed because her parents have rules is not in any sort of extraordinary circumstances at all.

    Emancipation is not an option. Suck it up til you're 18, then leave. That's your option.

    I don't know what crossed your wires... but I think I am in love.
  • 10-19-2010, 01:19 PM
    cbg
    Re: I Am 17/F I Need Help I Trying to Get Emancipation Plz
    Missy always did have a wonderful way with words.

    Speaking just as a general observation, I cannot help but see the irony of a teen who is demanding to be seen as and granted the rights of an adult - but self-identifies as "baby" anything.
  • 10-19-2010, 01:46 PM
    Dogmatique
    Re: I Am 17/F I Need Help I Trying to Get Emancipation Plz
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    Missy always did have a wonderful way with words.

    Speaking just as a general observation, I cannot help but see the irony of a teen who is demanding to be seen as and granted the rights of an adult - but self-identifies as "baby" anything.



    I think we all heart Missy :D

    I also completely see the irony, c!
  • 10-19-2010, 01:57 PM
    aardvarc
    Re: I Am 17/F I Need Help I Trying to Get Emancipation Plz
    AARD <-----starting to get imparient waiting for Missy to run for office.
  • 10-19-2010, 02:21 PM
    LawResearcherMissy
    Re: I Am 17/F I Need Help I Trying to Get Emancipation Plz
    Aw, lovey, I haven't the patience for that nonsense. Someone would get a bug up their ass about me being a Heathen, I'd drop a few f-bombs and profane their name back through seven generations of their ancestors, and it would be all done.

    People don't like straightforward. They want their hands held, and I'm just too busy and cranky for that.
  • 10-19-2010, 02:28 PM
    cyjeff
    Re: I Am 17/F I Need Help I Trying to Get Emancipation Plz
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    Aw, lovey, I haven't the patience for that nonsense. Someone would get a bug up their ass about me being a Heathen, I'd drop a few f-bombs and profane their name back through seven generations of their ancestors, and it would be all done.

    People don't like straightforward. They want their hands held, and I'm just too busy and cranky for that.

    Yeah... as a group, we get that a lot.
  • 10-25-2010, 09:25 AM
    babybella
    Re: I Am 17/F I Need Help I Trying to Get Emancipation Plz
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    Then a judge would say that you really weren't abused but, instead, was a kid willing to say or do anything to or about anyone to allow yourself to live with a boy you are not allowed to live with.

    Again, without a job, this isn't even an intellectual exercise... this discussion is just a waste of time.



    i am in the work thing at school i make money and they are settin me up to get a job that how i have been eattin with the money i am making

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    Then you're not being abused, and as a survivor of ACTUAL abuse, I would appreciate it if you shut your whiny little mouth about how abused you are. People who are being abused will take ANY WAY OUT they're offered. Cram it, princess. You're just mad that Mommy and Daddy have rules.

    This is all moot. The state of Pennsylvania does not have any statutory provisions for the emancipation of minors. In some counties, you can get a judge to declare you emancipated if your circumstances are considered extraordinary enough to merit it, but the fact of the matter is that a whiny, half-literate, jobless child who's pissed because her parents have rules is not in any sort of extraordinary circumstances at all.

    Emancipation is not an option. Suck it up til you're 18, then leave. That's your option.

    whatever you don't know anything i am not mad at mommy and daddy's rules you were are there i had to grown up to fast to rest 4 kids why mommy was out sleepin around and daddy was gone you are not there when her kids called me mommy not her and you don't know how it feels cuz you got a good life tellin people to cram it you dont know how it feels crying your self to sleep every night you don't know

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    i am in the work thing at school i make money and they are settin me up to get a job that how i have been eattin with the money i am making



    whatever you don't know anything i am not mad at mommy and daddy's rules you were are there i had to grown up to fast to rest 4 kids why mommy was out sleepin around and daddy was gone you are not there when her kids called me mommy not her and you don't know how it feels cuz you got a good life tellin people to cram it you dont know how it feels crying your self to sleep every night you don't know

    its not about having to listin to mommy and daddy rlues i would do that i just sick of hear the same shit over and over about i nothing i am nothing i shit i am sick of fighting everynight no NOONE should live like that i am not i dog yeah i may not got hit or beat everynight but man it feel like it in side i did not want to be me i judt want to do whats best for me doing the right thing i just want to be happy is there any way for that at all
  • 10-25-2010, 09:48 AM
    cbg
    Re: I Am 17/F I Need Help I Trying to Get Emancipation Plz
    Please pay careful attention.

    I would not make any assumptions, little girl, as to what the people responding here understand or have gone through in their lives. There ARE people who have responded in this very thread who have gone through worse things that you have described as happening to you, so don't you tell anyone here that they "don't understand what it feels like". They know it better than you do, by first hand experience.

    But the fact of the matter is, it doesn't matter one whit what we "understand" or not. The law does not depend on what responders on a message board "understand". There IS no emancipation statute in PA. In SOME but by no means all, PA counties, there have been case by case exceptions when a minor has been able to show that they are capable of paying their own rent, food, clothes, utilities, medical care, insurance, transportation, staples, and all the other incidentals of life, but you have provided nothing in your post to suggest that you meet that standard.

    In other words, even if you managed to convince everyone here of the justice of your position, and everyone here agreed that you should be able to be on your own, it wouldn't matter a hill of beans because the law STILL would not say that you are a candidate for emancipation. You aren't. The law would not magically change all of a sudden to say, yes, you can leave home and let the taxpayers support you. (Who do you think pays for that "work thing" at school?) No matter what we "understand".

    Got that?
  • 10-25-2010, 10:01 AM
    LawResearcherMissy
    Re: I Am 17/F I Need Help I Trying to Get Emancipation Plz
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    whatever you don't know anything i am not mad at mommy and daddy's rules you were are there i had to grown up to fast to rest 4 kids why mommy was out sleepin around and daddy was gone you are not there when her kids called me mommy not her and you don't know how it feels cuz you got a good life tellin people to cram it you dont know how it feels crying your self to sleep every night you don't know
    Cry moar, emo kid. If you're being abused, you call CPS. Clue: Your Mama sleeping around? Is not abuse, just poor taste.

    And emancipation is not an option in your state. Full stop. No amount of kicking and crying on your part will change that.
  • 10-27-2010, 10:34 AM
    babybella
    Re: I Am 17/F I Need Help I Trying to Get Emancipation Plz
    do you think before you talk or no i done asking you all you dont know nothing thank for nothing i got my help and i am living on my own and i am supporting myself so thanks anyways i told you noone would listin people out there you can find something or someone to help you dont give up
  • 10-27-2010, 10:57 AM
    cyjeff
    Re: I Am 17/F I Need Help I Trying to Get Emancipation Plz
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    do you think before you talk or no i done asking you all you dont know nothing thank for nothing i got my help and i am living on my own and i am supporting myself so thanks anyways i told you noone would listin people out there you can find something or someone to help you dont give up

    You ran away, then.

    I have to only assume as there is no way my brain can translate that post into standard English.
  • 10-27-2010, 11:14 AM
    Dogmatique
    Re: I Am 17/F I Need Help I Trying to Get Emancipation Plz
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    You ran away, then.

    I have to only assume as there is no way my brain can translate that post into standard English.



    Well, she sure as heck wasn't emancipated ;)
  • 10-27-2010, 11:28 AM
    LawResearcherMissy
    Re: I Am 17/F I Need Help I Trying to Get Emancipation Plz
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    do you think before you talk or no i done asking you all you dont know nothing thank for nothing i got my help and i am living on my own and i am supporting myself so thanks anyways i told you noone would listin people out there you can find something or someone to help you dont give up

    "Don't give up" what? The stupid idea that you can make a law exist just for you, right out of thin air, just because you think the laws of the state of Pennsylvania exist solely for your convenience? Or the equally stupid idea that your betters are going to believe that you all of a sudden magically got a full-time job and enough money in the course of TWO DAYS for first month's rent, last month's rent, security deposit, utility deposits, and groceries to get started.

    You didn't. You ran away.

    Running away is not "getting your help". If you have run, whomever you've run to is in danger of being brought up on charges of harboring a runaway. You absolutely didn't get emancipated, because 1) the law in our state doesn't allow it and 2) even if it did, it would take nearly a year to hear the petition. What a selfish, inconsiderate, ghastly beast you are.

    Get off the school computer and go back to class. You need the English help.
  • 10-27-2010, 11:35 AM
    babybella
    Re: I Am 17/F I Need Help I Trying to Get Emancipation Plz
    no thank you
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