Oh, so your answer is "I don't understand basic science and, therefore, will belittle you instead".Quote:
Quoting jklo
You seem to have a great deal of knowledge of the details here. How far away were you when you threw the bottle?
Did the OP say ANYWHERE that the car was parked? Or did he just say that a bottle had been thrown at a car? Are you saying it is impossible that a drunk would throw a bottle at a moving car?
Lastly, the only reason you signed onto this site was to state this crazy position here. Stargazer, making up users just so that it sounds like someone else "gets" you is pretty juvenile.... well, kinda like throwing a bottle at a car.
"OH FUN. Bottle go BOOM."
I will say that your defense and obvious experience with not only this type of vandalism but the particulars here suggests that you should have been charged with a great deal more than you were.
Maybe if you had paid attention in class rather than telling everyone what you are entitled to you wouldn't have needed to reference a science book. I didn't.
EDIT: I cut out the rest of the worthless "science is dumb" rant.
Possession of Alcohol Only Because It Was in My Metabolism
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10-13-2010, 10:57 AMcyjeffRe: Possession of Alcohol Only Because It Was in My Metabolism
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10-13-2010, 01:48 PMjkloRe: Possession of Alcohol Only Because It Was in My MetabolismThe basic science is easy to understand. The hard part is the application, as you can see.Quote:
Quoting cyjeff
ohhh half a football field.Quote:
You seem to have a great deal of knowledge of the details here. How far away were you when you threw the bottle?
Well, my superior reading comprehension skills picked up on the fact that the car was both vandalized and had bottles thrown at it. As this particular distinction was made I am led to believe that there were separate acts of vandalizm in addition to the bottle throwing. While throwing a bottle at a moving vehicle is rather easy. Many additional possible acts of vandalizm against a moving vehicle prove much harder. Oh, and it all took place in a parking lot. While not impossible to drive in a parking lot, statistically cars spend a larger percentage of time within a parking lot, parked. Thus adding to my suspicions.Quote:
Did the OP say ANYWHERE that the car was parked? Or did he just say that a bottle had been thrown at a car? Are you saying it is impossible that a drunk would throw a bottle at a moving car?
YES! Finally! You get it! When are you joining the police academy? I can't believe how quickly you picked this up. Yeah, see, I joined as jklo back in Feb with the intention of creating this post as stargazer and trapping you in it. I can't believe it all worked exactly as planned.Quote:
Lastly, the only reason you signed onto this site was to state this crazy position here. Stargazer, making up users just so that it sounds like someone else "gets" you is pretty juvenile.... well, kinda like throwing a bottle at a car.
No. I'm not stargazer.
Well. That could be true. But you have the wrong case.Quote:
I will say that your defense and obvious experience with not only this type of vandalism but the particulars here suggests that you should have been charged with a great deal more than you were.
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10-13-2010, 02:37 PMcyjeffRe: Possession of Alcohol Only Because It Was in My MetabolismYou seem to have this image of what happened in your head and don't see any other way things could have happened.Quote:
Quoting jklo
This is known as "assuming facts not in evidence".
Another assumption.Quote:
ohhh half a football field.
Another assumption. You do realize that a car may be vandalized with a bottle, right?Quote:
Well, my superior reading comprehension skills picked up on the fact that the car was both vandalized and had bottles thrown at it. As this particular distinction was made I am led to believe that there were separate acts of vandalizm in addition to the bottle throwing.
No, my assumptive friend. The location of the vandalism was never stated. The ARREST was happening in the parking lot next to the vandalized car.Quote:
While throwing a bottle at a moving vehicle is rather easy. Many additional possible acts of vandalizm against a moving vehicle prove much harder. Oh, and it all took place in a parking lot. While not impossible to drive in a parking lot, statistically cars spend a larger percentage of time within a parking lot, parked. Thus adding to my suspicions.
Again, you are assuming things.
I wouldn't have believed that TWO people could be this obtuse. My hopes for the future are dashed.Quote:
YES! Finally! You get it! When are you joining the police academy? I can't believe how quickly you picked this up. Yeah, see, I joined as jklo back in Feb with the intention of creating this post as stargazer and trapping you in it. I can't believe it all worked exactly as planned.
of course, you were THEN worried that throwing something could get you arrested for assault. Sorry that didn't work out better.
And yet you know everything that happened. Hmmm..... maybe you just remembered that you had an old account.Quote:
No. I'm not stargazer.
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10-13-2010, 02:48 PMcdwjavaRe: Possession of Alcohol Only Because It Was in My Metabolism
Okay, from MY decades of experience in law enforcement, a cut on the finger is very possible when people are tossing bottles at a car. It all depends on the circumstances. One bottle, not likely. A throwing fest by a hole bunch of people? Much more likely. Why? because of the feeding frenzy, so to speak. People start picking up bottles, broken bottles, half of bottles, etc. and toss them. Some even go up to the car and smash the bottle on the car, or toss from close range. (and, yes, this happens with some frequency in college towns in my state ... not common, but not unheard of, either)
Is it possible for the kid with the cut finger to have been part of the vandalism? Sure. By itself the cut doesn't support a conviction for vandalism, but it certainly warrants a detention and further look by the cops. And, since the OP had been drinking he was charged appropriately. he can probably plead to the lesser of the two offenses and be done with it after taking an alcohol class (that he will, of course, ignore) and keeping his nose clean for a time.
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10-13-2010, 02:59 PMcyjeffRe: Possession of Alcohol Only Because It Was in My Metabolism
So you are saying that a recent cut that required "immediate attention" while police were investigating beer bottles thrown at a car would be considered, in police parlance, a clue?
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10-13-2010, 03:28 PMjkloRe: Possession of Alcohol Only Because It Was in My MetabolismWhat I'm seeing in my head is 9 out of 10 people standing in a line demonstrating how they would throw a bottle and then you turning around and heaving it at the wall 3 meters behind you...lol.Quote:
Quoting cyjeff
Anyway, the point was that it's really difficult to cut yourself when you throw a bottle. That still stands.
You asked a question. I answered it.Quote:
Another assumption.
Hmmmm. You missed the point. Why would somebody say "someone vandalized a car and threw beer bottles at it". That don't make no sense.Quote:
Another assumption. You do realize that a car may be vandalized with a bottle, right?
Are you assuming that you can't read?
Now you're adding in words. Where did you get 'next' from?Quote:
No, my assumptive friend. The location of the vandalism was never stated. The ARREST was happening in the parking lot next to the vandalized car.
Parking lot's a good place to park a car though....
Yeah, weird huh. You and stargazer.Quote:
I wouldn't have believed that TWO people could be this obtuse. My hopes for the future are dashed.
Yeah, whole idea scared the sh!+ out of me. And as I recall, there's potential it can be, but surely you know that. But...how could it have worked out any better than it did? It was hilarious and there were no consequences.Quote:
of course, you were THEN worried that throwing something could get you arrested for assault. Sorry that didn't work out better.
You tell me I'm assumptive...you tell me I was there....Quote:
And yet you know everything that happened. Hmmm..... maybe you just remembered that you had an old account.
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Quoting cdwjava
There's those semantics at work!Quote:
Quoting cdwjava
In relation to my decription of throw, which was in relation to stargazer's use of 'throw', I feel like internal imagery is missing from some posters here....answer me this, when you read the word 'car', do you picture a car in your head?
Maybe stargazer can clear up the throwing situation...(I can't)Quote:
One bottle, not likely. A throwing fest by a hole bunch of people? Much more likely.
It sounds more minor than a throw fest (didn't the cops get distracted by a pot smoker?).....so injuries not likely.
I'd still like to see you try to see me hurt myself throwing a bottle. -
10-13-2010, 03:36 PMcdwjavaRe: Possession of Alcohol Only Because It Was in My Metabolism
The point is, we do not know the situation or whether or not the cops saw the injury and assumed it might be related to the events in question. But, in the long run, it is neither here nor there as Stargazer was not arrested for having a cut finger, he was arrested for being drunk in public and for having consumed alcohol while being underage. So this finger cut thing is a red herring and not relevant.
Oh, and I have seen people cut themselves throwing bottles ... chipped necks/spouts, and the like have a nasty way of catching one's fingers. But, as I said, it is neither here nor there and who cares how the cut was obtained?
So, unless there is anything more to add with regards to the legal issues of THIS situation and alcohol, then I think we're done here. -
10-13-2010, 03:48 PMjkloRe: Possession of Alcohol Only Because It Was in My MetabolismLittle bit of caution and you're all good.Quote:
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10-13-2010, 03:58 PMcdwjavaRe: Possession of Alcohol Only Because It Was in My MetabolismNothing like experience, education, and a couple decades doing what I do.Quote:
Quoting jklo
What are you? A high school student? Perhaps you should reel in that chip on your shoulder and learn to take a chill pill, kiddo.
Anything to actually add to the discussion? or are you here simply to try and tweak your betters? -
10-13-2010, 04:12 PMjkloRe: Possession of Alcohol Only Because It Was in My MetabolismDoug Betters?Quote:
Quoting cdwjava
I dunno. Sometimes arrogrance just sets me off. (not saying you are)
I did have a question to ask. But I'm not going to now.
And I don't have a chip on my shoulder. But....do uh....do you sell chill pills on the side? (joking)